Re: [videoblogging] qik.com, kytetv and Rober Scoble's post on TechCrunch

2008-06-15 Thread B Yen
On Jun 14, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Robert Scoble wrote:

 Good points, which is why I do both professional-style videos with  
 $6,000 HD
 camcorders and a producer/editor etc (those are the ones you see on
 ScobleizerTV) as well as cell phone videos (which I put up at  
 FastCompany
 Live). Both are at http://www.fastcompany.tv

Generalizing is a survival mechanism from Evolution.  Those  
organisms which generalize..survived, those which  
specialized..died out.  That's why Blip.tv has such a strong package.


 Interestingly, lately, I've had more sponsor interest in the cell  
 phone
 videos. Why?

 1. Intimacy.
 2. Timeliness.

Nothing beats LIVE as per a New York Times article about Offroad  
Racing.  (That was the whole point of my Jumplive.com project, it  
emphasized LIVE delivery of pics/videos)  This is a market which I  
originally targeted

[ extreme remoteness in deserts of Nevada, California, Baja..no  
conventional Telecommunications infrastructure.  Very little, if any  
cellphone access.  I use my 4x4 van (equipped with mobile satellite- 
DSL dish  WiFi...WiFi Internet with 4-wheel drive) to upload LIVE  
videos ( pics)

http://eclipsescience.blogspot.com/2006/05/video-blogging-over-4x4- 
vansatellite.html
  ]

This is why this niche-market never gets any publicity..photographers/ 
videographers can't get their content back to editors in a timely  
fashion for a story.  The same concept extends to any market.

Cellphones give citizens the capability of doing LIVE reporting.  The  
portable video-camera revolutionized TV reporting: TV stations just  
buy amateur footage.  I actually experienced the latter in '93, at  
the El Toro Air Show:

http://www.jumplive.com/about.html

CNN bought 1-time use rights (non exclusive) on the spot, followed by  
ABC.  Then, Gamma Liaison called me up from NYC  that's how I got on  
board as a pro.  Getty Images bought out GL several yrs ago, so  
technically I'm with Getty.

Now with cellphones, you can bypass TV stations altogether  upload  
to your OWN channel.  That is what all these cellphone based video- 
service websites (Textamerica, Blip.tv, Kyte.tv) are about.

I just watched your video of Robert Graf:

http://scobleizer.com/2007/06/27/why-kytetv-is-better-than-life- 
streaming/

He is talking about doing a video-channels to a private channel among  
friends (social network).  Taking the Channel/Show model to social- 
networks (who needs MSM/mainstream media)

 3. Community interaction.

I love the Youtube CMS/Content Management System, where people  
comment on videos.  Some good material there.  So, good I even  
archive them on my computer.  Most blogs have the standard text  
comment capability.

I think Robert Graf was alluding to video-commenting.  With mobile  
media solutions (PDAs  cellphones, laptops w/built-in webcams)  
having camera/video capability, it's a cinch to go beyond text- 
commenting..video-commenting.

 4. Quantity.

Quantity has a certain QUALITY about it
-- Dr. xxx, Army Ordnance Center
[ about how the Russian T-34 overcame the superior German Tiger tank  
in WWII, with sheer numbers ]

I'm into ants/termites/locusts, studying them in Evolution.  (note  
that Fireant was named as such, to illustrate the power of the  
masses).  They can overwhelm higher order beings by sheer numbers.   
I was watching a NOVA episode on insects,  it was stated insects  
are the DOMINANT life form on Earth, based on overall mass.   
Because, of SHEER NUMBERS.

Similarly, the sheer numbers of cellphones (hundreds of millions)  
means that LIVE delivery of videos by consumers (citizen video  
journalism) can beat out the MSM/Mainstream Media.  CNN did a deal  
wtih Blip.tv, for the iReport.  That indicates to me that MSM is  
realizing this revolution,  using the Technology.


 I've been watching the conversations that both kinds of videos  
 start. On
 FriendFeed my cell phone videos are more likely to start a  
 conversation than
 my professional videos. Mostly because they are more timely. My  
 cell phone
 videos also are interactive -- you can ask questions while I film.  
 That's
 something that you can not do with a $6,000 HD camcorder.

Check out how I use cellphone videos for LiveWebCast for Offroad Races:

http://07baja1000.blogspot.com/search/label/media-event%20%28Mon%29
[ I bypassed the Mexican cellphone system,  used the WiFi hotspot  
in my van.  I took the SD card out of my cellphone,  put it in my  
WiFi capable PDA running Windows Mobile (which was able to read the  
Palm videos!!!).  I was outside when I uploaded the videos to Blip.tv ]

http://07primm300.blogspot.com/search/label/Fri%20%28Contingency% 
2FTech%29
http://07bitdv2r.blogspot.com/search/label/Contingency%2FThu
[ all uploaded to Blip.tv, which automatically cross-posted to  
Blogger blogs ]

I think I might be the pioneer in using cellphone videos for  
interviews.  They look very *acceptable*, the toy pinhole cameras  
works pretty darn good!!  When you start 

RE: [videoblogging] qik.com, kytetv and Rober Scoble's post on TechCrunch

2008-06-15 Thread Robert Scoble
Does anyone know of any comparable cellphone (like the N93) with an 
optical zoom camera, with a QWERTY keyboard?? If so, I would buy it 
in an instant.

Nokia is coming out with some new cell phones soon, the rumors are.
Including one with a QWERTY keyboard (rumored to be the N71). I should know
more now that Nokia's PR group is talking with me.

Almost all my videos were shot with the Nokia N95. I had a few shot with the
N82, which has an even better camera on it, but doesn't work with USA's
ATT's 3G system.

Robert Scoble
http://www.fastcompany.tv 

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Re: [videoblogging] qik.com, kytetv and Rober Scoble's post on TechCrunch

2008-06-15 Thread Jan McLaughlin
8525 Pocket PC

http://www.letstalk.com/reviews/reviewdtl.htm?pfId=1169

2.5 megapixel video / still camera with focus  qwerty

Optical zoom? Nah. Zoom? Yeah.

The m4v files it records in the 'large' format option are not recognized /
transcoded by Blip or playable on the mac, so the workflow's been cellphone
-- Shozu -- Flickr -- Blogger and mostly, the vids live in the Flash
world. Shozu's an excellent cellphone distribution mechanism with its cc
feature that on upload to a main site will 'cc' a seemingly unlimited # of
other sites.

http://shozu.com

If the video's important and/or I've extra time, I bluetooth the video to
the 'puter, change the file extension from m4v to 3gp, and then upload to
Blip and distribute from there. Only then will it rush down the RSS feed as
I prefer.

It will automatically find wifi and has both 3G and edge.

Great thread.

Jan

P.S. The Faux Press does cellphone interviews, too :)


 Does anyone know of any comparable cellphone (like the N93) with an
 optical zoom camera, with a QWERTY keyboard??  If so, I would buy it
 in an instant.
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[videoblogging] Re: qik.com, kytetv and Rober Scoble's post on TechCrunch

2008-06-15 Thread Steve Garfield
Nokia has a bluetooth keyboard that works with the N93/N95...

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, B Yen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know of any comparable cellphone (like the N93) with an  
 optical zoom camera, with a QWERTY keyboard??  If so, I would buy it  
 in an instant.





[videoblogging] W.O. Thompson's Passing

2008-06-15 Thread danielmcvicar
I received an email message from W.O. Thompson's email with this message:
CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR W.O. THOMPSON
will be held at The Q Spot, 221 W. Cherokee, in Enid,
Sat. 6/21/08, from 1 to 4 pm.
There will be live music  refreshments.
Everyone who knew W.O. is welcome to come  help
celebrate his life.

Also known as WO7 from Oblivion Oklahoma, W.O. was an enthusiastic contributor, 
and 
somebody who really touched me by collaborating with some great animation when 
I was 
putting together LateNiteMash.  I know that he reached out to a lot of people 
as well.

His talent is missed, his kindness is remembered, and it reminds me of how 
happy I have 
been to be involved with this group of videoblogging adventurers.  Thanks 
everyone.

Daniel McVicar



[videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

2008-06-15 Thread Brook Hinton
Howdy Videoblogginglistfolk.
I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in work made
for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an
experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list would focus
on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/sustainability, and
anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its offline
context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and also any
concerns or desires about such a list. Thanks.


-- 
___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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[videoblogging] Re: W.O. Thompson's Passing

2008-06-15 Thread Bill Cammack
Dan, Sorry to hear that.  I remember W.O. from Late Nite Mash.

Bill
http://billcammack.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I received an email message from W.O. Thompson's email with this
message:
 CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR W.O. THOMPSON
 will be held at The Q Spot, 221 W. Cherokee, in Enid,
 Sat. 6/21/08, from 1 to 4 pm.
 There will be live music  refreshments.
 Everyone who knew W.O. is welcome to come  help
 celebrate his life.
 
 Also known as WO7 from Oblivion Oklahoma, W.O. was an enthusiastic
contributor, and 
 somebody who really touched me by collaborating with some great
animation when I was 
 putting together LateNiteMash.  I know that he reached out to a lot
of people as well.
 
 His talent is missed, his kindness is remembered, and it reminds me
of how happy I have 
 been to be involved with this group of videoblogging adventurers. 
Thanks everyone.
 
 Daniel McVicar





Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

2008-06-15 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Oooh - would certainly read such a list.

Watching this thread with interest.

Great idea.

Jan

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Howdy Videoblogginglistfolk.
 I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in work made
 for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an
 experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list would
 focus
 on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/sustainability,
 and
 anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its offline
 context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and also
 any
 concerns or desires about such a list. Thanks.


 --
 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: qik.com, kytetv and Rober Scoble's post on TechCrunch

2008-06-15 Thread Mike Meiser
Followed this on techmeme.com and now here.

I haven't had enough time to keep up on Qik and their competitors, so
regardless of wether I agree or disagree with Scoble or Steve's posts
the important thing for me is that the perspectives are most
informative. Thank you both.

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nokia has a bluetooth keyboard that works with the N93/N95...

Can't you get  bluetooth keyboard for the iPod too?

I find it fascinating that the number one issue in the blackberry vs.
iphone debate is still the tactile keyboard.

Personally I find the issue a little like debating the keyboard on the
ThinkPad vs. the Macbook. All that is required is a little time to
becoem comfortable with a new interface.

I thought by now someone might have made an invisible plasitc overlay
that raises or at least offers a tiny little nibs on the touch to
offer some ositive tactile touch feedback. This would help people
rapidly develop an instinctual finger or thumb placement on the iphone
so they can learn to type faster and more accurately over time.


P.S. Regarding something B Yen said about generalizing vs. niche markets.

Funny, some would say when Youtube started it was in an extremely
niche market. Some might still say it is. The same might have been
said of apple, ibm, even microsoft back in the day. The trick is
finding a niche market / an evolving market and exploding it. You
don't set out to become a generalist, you make/set the market and
therby become the defacto standard. It's the next generation of
innovators who try to figure out where the market is going so they can
carve out a niche in its path. This is exactly what qik and the other
fore mentioned services are doing.

I tend to believe that Qik and the rest of these live streaming
video blogging services are the future. 5-10 years from now the
majority of video posted might well be live via wifi, wimax or some
post-cessor to 3g.

I find it funny that only 4 years after youtube started in this very
niche segment of blogging called video blogging that we now consider
them a generalist. It's a mark of just how big this space has
exploded.

Peace,

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nokia has a bluetooth keyboard that works with the N93/N95...

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, B Yen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know of any comparable cellphone (like the N93) with an
 optical zoom camera, with a QWERTY keyboard??  If so, I would buy it
 in an instant.




 

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Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

2008-06-15 Thread Adrian Miles
am interested but perhaps could use the exisitng (and silent)  
vlogtheory yahoo group, as I'd expect most of that membership to be  
also interested... of course the name might not work :-)

On 16/06/2008, at 7:49 AM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 Howdy Videoblogginglistfolk.
 I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in  
 work made
 for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an
 experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list  
 would focus
 on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/ 
 sustainability, and
 anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its  
 offline
 context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and  
 also any


cheers
Adrian Miles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
bachelor communication honours coordinator
vogmae.net.au