Re: [videoblogging] Re: Black Woman YouTube Vlogger Murdered by Stalker
gena i totally agree with you this is so horrible and i think google/youtube has to do something about this because its become so commonplace that its a natural phrase now to say youtube and haters one after the other i've also contacted some of the men who have hated on me they turn out to be nice young men who say things like oh i was just kidding, its what you do on youtube its what you DO ON YOUTUBE??? like telling a woman you are fat and should die painfully is nothing and its ok to say that to women on the regular? those same guys are not fans of my show, but how HORRIBLE that its just what you do on youtube its so that how can i tell if someone who says that is a normal kid who going to end up liking my show and im'ing me fan mail or a freak who means to hurt me? i think there HAS to be a solution? isnt this HATE SPEECH? isnt there a law against hate speech? i mean, we just got on youtube about 3 months ago, so reading things like you should die has been really painful. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Gena compumaven...@earthlink.net wrote: I dunno. Like I said I do passionately believe in freedom of speech. It acts as a vent for those that feel like they can't be heard any other way. Even the A-holes, trolls and certain orally fixated people have a means of expression. You might be right about YTs not knowing about comment moderation. I know I use it, I have to. I do think when the young man tried to contact the police there had to be some immediate way for them to contact Google to see the contents of the videos. There should have been an emergency mechanism in place that allowed somebody to see the video and say this is trouble. I type that but it doesn't make me feel comfortable to have that decision in subjective hands. My anger is bottled up between the cultural permission of men to attack women, and people justifying the attacker and not respecting the victim. Even now nastyness is found on Aisha's post if they haven't taken it down yet. My anger is that this is not the first incident of a man attacking a woman who vlogs and certainly not only on YT. I had a fundamentalist whack job on my tail for months telling me how disgusting I was. Women have stopped vlogging/blogging because of online dog piles that they just couldn't stand any more. I don't blame them a bit. Damn it I want the world to be a better place than what it is. It is happening but not fast enough for me. Rascal, you are more like an agent provocateur. Thanks for hearing me. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert rup...@... wrote: That's so awful and sad. I know this is only tangential to it, but I think YouTube's hands-off attitude towards violent, threatening, prejudiced behaviour is appalling. It's a breeding ground for hatred, where people can get themselves more and more worked up, more and more entrenched in their hatred. With the tacit blessing of Google. Yes, people can shout back, but we've all been online long enough to know that freedom of reply does nothing to combat trolls and haters. It just makes them worse, gives them attention. The only answer is to shut them down. I don't know why more people don't turn on comment approval on YouTube, or just turn commenting off altogether. The only reason I can think of is that they don't know they can. And I just don't understand why the most popular video sharing site, potentially a place with great positive impact and opportunity, should allow itself to be turned into a big pile of shit. Is it any wonder Google can't make any money from YouTube advertising? Who wants to advertise their product next to all that? Google should get with the program and crack down. They could start by removing people's anonymity. Google should insist on identifying people by email accounts linked to Google accounts. And/or have comments set to moderation/approval by default. I don't believe this is a freedom of speech issue. To say that Freedom of speech equals being able to say whatever you want on YouTube is nonsense. Stopping abusive and offensive comments isn't against freedom of speech. Shutting down abusive commenters on your site isn't repressing freedom of speech any more than forcibly ejecting someone who comes into your garden and starts shouting at you and threatening you. If someone wants to stand in their own garden and shout and threaten, fair enough. That's freedom of speech. Within the bounds of laws on incitement to violence. One reason to do it is because a huge part of YouTube's audience are kids. Another reason is that it helped a psychotic continually abuse one of their users and get so wound up by doing it that he finds her and kills her. He may have ended up doing it to someone else offline - that's another issue. But there should be a team of people at YouTube saying In
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VideoBloggingWeek2009 Finale
hey guys i just wanna say thanks for doing it! i love it and i only did it two years ago but i wanna do it again next year i love u guys for doing it! On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: Yay! The great thing about videoblogging week is that lots of people who haven't made videos for a while suddenly make a video again - or more than one. I've enjoyed a lot. For those who didn't see, the amazing Duncan Speakman was posting vids again this week. http://duncanspeakman.net And I always get the most enjoyment when people remix each other's work. It hasn't happened so much recently, but Quirk and Proctor were playing racquet sports with each other all week: http://vimeo.com/quirk http://jenniferproctor.com We had a guest this weekend and I don't really do internet at the weekends, so I skipped Saturday and posted my Day 6 and Day 7 together last night. Feels good to have done 7 videos this week. Usually I crap out of these things two thirds of the way through, running out of ideas or time. But this week I did something different every day and it was never a chore. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 12-Apr-09, at 4:33 PM, Heath wrote: I ended videobloggingweek 2009 by showing everyone's whose fault it is I am on the internet making vlogs. http://heathparks.com/blog1/?p=355 Congrats to us all for another week of great video's! Heath http://heathparks.com/blog1 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Ian Beaumont i.beaum...@... wrote: Yep, it's over, and I felt it was a tough week to do. I've done a few video posts before, but to do a week of posts with good content was tough. I'm quite sure that I could have done things a lot better, but some of that was down to just plain nerves. Anyway, I'll list all 7 posts here, and feel free to give me any feedback you want to. Day 1: http://cityprod.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-my-first-video-blog-post-for.html Day 2: http://cityprod.blogspot.com/2009/04/video-blogging-week-on-viewpoint-day-2.html Day 3: http://cityprod.blogspot.com/2009/04/video-blogging-week-on-viewpoint-day-3.html Day 4: http://cityprod.blogspot.com/2009/04/video-blogging-week-on-viewpoint-day-4.html Day 5: http://cityprod.blogspot.com/2009/04/video-blogging-week-on-viewpoint-day-5.html Day 6: http://cityprod.blogspot.com/2009/04/video-blogging-week-on-viewpoint-day-6.html Day 7: http://cityprod.blogspot.com/2009/04/video-blogging-week-on-viewpoint-day-7.html Congratulations to everyone else who contributed to Video Blogging Week 2009. Ian B http://cityprod.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Mike Moon To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: [videoblogging] VideoBloggingWeek2009 Finale Well, it's over. VideoBloggingWeek2009 has come to an end. I wasn't nearly as prepared as I should have been, but I'm done. http://mikemoon.net/vlog/2009/04/12/car-wash-confidential/ Congrats to all those that tried or accomplished 7 videos in 7 days. Mike RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/MoonEchoes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
i dont want to take it back its still smells new, looks like ill be cruzing cl for a used g 4+ to capture with any one got one?? On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@gmail.com wrote: Mine is the gen prior to this - and you're right, looks like the new ones don't have 400, just 800 (at least that's better than the 1st gen which had 400 but not 800 - I notice a big difference between the two with HD, though others say its negligible.). Sorry bout the mixup. Anyway, Randy, Rupert's advice is still the right advice - take the thing back and get a mac that talks to your XL1. Brook On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: ... and the Macbook White has FW400 not 800 as Brook said! (confused much?) http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 7:19 PM, Brook Hinton wrote: The Macbook Pro's DO have fw800 - it was just the first gen 15 model that didn't. I have a 2nd gen with both 400 and 800 right under my fingers. But yes, Rupert's right, take it back and get a white macbook with fw800 or a macbook pro. Brook On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%40fatgirlinohio.org rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: You're out of luck for linking it to your XL1, I'm afraid. Apple's heartwarming policy of differentiation between products means they killed Firewire in the standard Macbooks to force you to go Pro if you're a Firewire user, because they think you're more likely to be an advanced or Pro user and therefore more likely to spend the extra cash. Take it back and get either a Macbook Pro or a White Macbook - I think they still have the older Macbook model available which has Firewire. The Macbook pro doesn't have a Firewire 800, though, only 400 - so if you get that, you'd have to also get a 9 pin FW800 to 4 pin DV camera cable. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 5:24 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: i just bought a nice shinny new mac book today with my taxes got it home to find out there is no fire wire port i need to get my videos in this from my xl1 it only has a mini fire wire no usb any ideas?? randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
Hi! I would like to add that presently the white macbook they are selling has the same chipset/cpu than the new ones, because they renovated it. so you just get stuck with the old design but get everything else and the firewire (400) port. http://theappleblog.com/2009/01/21/white-macbook-gets-nvidia-better-specs/ the new macbook pro only has the faster firewire in it (FW 800), but as others said, you can have a cable to connect a FW800 port on the computer to the XL1 or disks that have FW 400. in the end if you need firewire either you go with the old design or the macbook pro... Rgds, ZN On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:53 , Rupert wrote: You're out of luck for linking it to your XL1, I'm afraid. Apple's heartwarming policy of differentiation between products means they killed Firewire in the standard Macbooks to force you to go Pro if you're a Firewire user, because they think you're more likely to be an advanced or Pro user and therefore more likely to spend the extra cash. Take it back and get either a Macbook Pro or a White Macbook - I think they still have the older Macbook model available which has Firewire. The Macbook pro doesn't have a Firewire 800, though, only 400 - so if you get that, you'd have to also get a 9 pin FW800 to 4 pin DV camera cable. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 5:24 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: i just bought a nice shinny new mac book today with my taxes got it home to find out there is no fire wire port i need to get my videos in this from my xl1 it only has a mini fire wire no usb any ideas?? randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
Hi Randy, the firewire target mode was lost on the macbook (non pro and non white), because there is no equivalent for that on usb 2.0. if you still want to use your XL1 and ingest video without the firewire, you could also think of another way... sony sells this device: http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-HVRMRC1K/ and the must be others selling similar stuff, but its expensive normally. :( the great thing about it is that it records to SD memory cards, at the same time you record to tape, it can use DV or HDV formats. i think in HDV this sony product don't work with the different Canon HDV (it has to do with progressive / interlaced and 1080 / 720). You probably in the end would use a USB 2.0 SD memory card reader and you were done. and you could have the cassette tape as backup anyway. it depends a lot on the kind of work you do with the camera. its just a crazy idea. :) Rgds, ZN On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:20 , RANDY MANN wrote: can i use a fife wire on like a mini mac useing target disk mode or some other way?? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:58 AM, J. N. P. zen...@art.com.pt wrote: Hi! I would like to add that presently the white macbook they are selling has the same chipset/cpu than the new ones, because they renovated it. so you just get stuck with the old design but get everything else and the firewire (400) port. http://theappleblog.com/2009/01/21/white-macbook-gets-nvidia-better-specs/ the new macbook pro only has the faster firewire in it (FW 800), but as others said, you can have a cable to connect a FW800 port on the computer to the XL1 or disks that have FW 400. in the end if you need firewire either you go with the old design or the macbook pro... Rgds, ZN On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:53 , Rupert wrote: You're out of luck for linking it to your XL1, I'm afraid. Apple's heartwarming policy of differentiation between products means they killed Firewire in the standard Macbooks to force you to go Pro if you're a Firewire user, because they think you're more likely to be an advanced or Pro user and therefore more likely to spend the extra cash. Take it back and get either a Macbook Pro or a White Macbook - I think they still have the older Macbook model available which has Firewire. The Macbook pro doesn't have a Firewire 800, though, only 400 - so if you get that, you'd have to also get a 9 pin FW800 to 4 pin DV camera cable. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 5:24 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: i just bought a nice shinny new mac book today with my taxes got it home to find out there is no fire wire port i need to get my videos in this from my xl1 it only has a mini fire wire no usb any ideas?? randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
can i use a fife wire on like a mini mac useing target disk mode or some other way?? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:58 AM, J. N. P. zen...@art.com.pt wrote: Hi! I would like to add that presently the white macbook they are selling has the same chipset/cpu than the new ones, because they renovated it. so you just get stuck with the old design but get everything else and the firewire (400) port. http://theappleblog.com/2009/01/21/white-macbook-gets-nvidia-better-specs/ the new macbook pro only has the faster firewire in it (FW 800), but as others said, you can have a cable to connect a FW800 port on the computer to the XL1 or disks that have FW 400. in the end if you need firewire either you go with the old design or the macbook pro... Rgds, ZN On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:53 , Rupert wrote: You're out of luck for linking it to your XL1, I'm afraid. Apple's heartwarming policy of differentiation between products means they killed Firewire in the standard Macbooks to force you to go Pro if you're a Firewire user, because they think you're more likely to be an advanced or Pro user and therefore more likely to spend the extra cash. Take it back and get either a Macbook Pro or a White Macbook - I think they still have the older Macbook model available which has Firewire. The Macbook pro doesn't have a Firewire 800, though, only 400 - so if you get that, you'd have to also get a 9 pin FW800 to 4 pin DV camera cable. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 5:24 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: i just bought a nice shinny new mac book today with my taxes got it home to find out there is no fire wire port i need to get my videos in this from my xl1 it only has a mini fire wire no usb any ideas?? randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
Hi again, i should correct what i said. this sony thing will record also canon HDV stream, you can check it here with XH A1: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-hvr-mrc1k-cf-card-recorder/116520-awesome-news-canon-users-25.html and a 16GB SD card will give 74 minutes of recording :) Rgds, ZN On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:43 , J. N. P. wrote: Hi Randy, the firewire target mode was lost on the macbook (non pro and non white), because there is no equivalent for that on usb 2.0. if you still want to use your XL1 and ingest video without the firewire, you could also think of another way... sony sells this device: http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-HVRMRC1K/ and the must be others selling similar stuff, but its expensive normally. :( the great thing about it is that it records to SD memory cards, at the same time you record to tape, it can use DV or HDV formats. i think in HDV this sony product don't work with the different Canon HDV (it has to do with progressive / interlaced and 1080 / 720). You probably in the end would use a USB 2.0 SD memory card reader and you were done. and you could have the cassette tape as backup anyway. it depends a lot on the kind of work you do with the camera. its just a crazy idea. :) Rgds, ZN On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:20 , RANDY MANN wrote: can i use a fife wire on like a mini mac useing target disk mode or some other way?? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:58 AM, J. N. P. zen...@art.com.pt wrote: Hi! I would like to add that presently the white macbook they are selling has the same chipset/cpu than the new ones, because they renovated it. so you just get stuck with the old design but get everything else and the firewire (400) port. http://theappleblog.com/2009/01/21/white-macbook-gets-nvidia-better-specs/ the new macbook pro only has the faster firewire in it (FW 800), but as others said, you can have a cable to connect a FW800 port on the computer to the XL1 or disks that have FW 400. in the end if you need firewire either you go with the old design or the macbook pro... Rgds, ZN On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:53 , Rupert wrote: You're out of luck for linking it to your XL1, I'm afraid. Apple's heartwarming policy of differentiation between products means they killed Firewire in the standard Macbooks to force you to go Pro if you're a Firewire user, because they think you're more likely to be an advanced or Pro user and therefore more likely to spend the extra cash. Take it back and get either a Macbook Pro or a White Macbook - I think they still have the older Macbook model available which has Firewire. The Macbook pro doesn't have a Firewire 800, though, only 400 - so if you get that, you'd have to also get a 9 pin FW800 to 4 pin DV camera cable. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 5:24 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: i just bought a nice shinny new mac book today with my taxes got it home to find out there is no fire wire port i need to get my videos in this from my xl1 it only has a mini fire wire no usb any ideas?? randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
Randy, seriously, take the thing back. If you bought it to work with video and you are using tape you are just looking at a world of frustration. It's not worth it. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
Agreed - they won't mind you taking it back. I know people who have bought an old model a week before a new one is released, and have taken the old one back a week later and swapped it for the new one. You have your consumer rights... and your right is to capture your tape direct to your computer ;) Also, why would you want to spend hundreds of dollars on an old, used machine so that you can do an unnecessarily slow and complicated capture and file transfer process? Just because the machine you bought smells new. That's just weird, isn't it? Better to spend that money on a better new machine, no? Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15-Apr-09, at 8:08 AM, Brook Hinton wrote: Randy, seriously, take the thing back. If you bought it to work with video and you are using tape you are just looking at a world of frustration. It's not worth it. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: work around for no fire wire?
I don't know if this is gonna work but I would do some investigation. A firewire to USB adapter cable. (sorry if this has already been mentioned) Here's a starting point. http://www.pixela-1.com/captycable/ And yes Apple dropping firewire on low end macs blows goats... that's a technical term. Damien http://ZapRoot.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: work around for no fire wire?
FW to USB cables/adapters will not work reliably for capturing DV. If you are going to work with DV from tape, you need firewire for capture, and ideally firewire or an esata card and drive for your media drive. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] work around for no fire wire?
my macbook pro circa 2006 has both fw400 and fw800 on right side and 3 usb2 ports. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: When did you buy yours? I bought my 15 MBP from the Apple store online three weeks ago and it has no FW400, only FW800. A step down from my old G4 Powerbook, which had both. I meant to say they have 800 not 400 (hence the advice about the cable), but I said it the wrong way round. On 14-Apr-09, at 7:19 PM, Brook Hinton wrote: The Macbook Pro's DO have fw800 - it was just the first gen 15 model that didn't. I have a 2nd gen with both 400 and 800 right under my fingers. But yes, Rupert's right, take it back and get a white macbook with fw800 or a macbook pro. Brook On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: You're out of luck for linking it to your XL1, I'm afraid. Apple's heartwarming policy of differentiation between products means they killed Firewire in the standard Macbooks to force you to go Pro if you're a Firewire user, because they think you're more likely to be an advanced or Pro user and therefore more likely to spend the extra cash. Take it back and get either a Macbook Pro or a White Macbook - I think they still have the older Macbook model available which has Firewire. The Macbook pro doesn't have a Firewire 800, though, only 400 - so if you get that, you'd have to also get a 9 pin FW800 to 4 pin DV camera cable. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 14-Apr-09, at 5:24 PM, RANDY MANN wrote: i just bought a nice shinny new mac book today with my taxes got it home to find out there is no fire wire port i need to get my videos in this from my xl1 it only has a mini fire wire no usb any ideas?? randy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Black Woman YouTube Vlogger Murdered by Stalker
You know I think there are U.S. laws about using online networks to promote hate speech. The problem is defining hate speech. I have seen on both sides of the political spectrum in YT that the comments get beyond vicious in their responses to each other. Just take a look at what some of the comments are saying about Susan Boyle? There is no dialog, there is Springer-speak, it is insecure young men jocking for attention. There is also the push out of original content for the equivalent of online DVR. That is why Hulu is kicking butt. There will be a solution to this problem. Economics are going to force it to come to pass. Having this happen is too risky for Google to allow the possibility to continue. If they are smart they will act now. Because the next time it will be a young white women full of life that someone will stalk and kill. And FOX, Nancy Grace and every tabloid will run to the bank with it. YouTube will have to move to a model of corporate/PR/creative advertising and safe source videos. Citizens, unless it is truly a breaking news story, will be pushed out. I don't want that to happen but unless they hire 24/7 moderators and have a mechanism for knocking down the vile level in the comments I don't see they would have a choice. It is past time for YouTube to evolve. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina irina...@... wrote: gena i totally agree with you this is so horrible and i think google/youtube has to do something about this because its become so commonplace that its a natural phrase now to say youtube and haters one after the other i've also contacted some of the men who have hated on me they turn out to be nice young men who say things like oh i was just kidding, its what you do on youtube its what you DO ON YOUTUBE??? like telling a woman you are fat and should die painfully is nothing and its ok to say that to women on the regular? those same guys are not fans of my show, but how HORRIBLE that its just what you do on youtube its so that how can i tell if someone who says that is a normal kid who going to end up liking my show and im'ing me fan mail or a freak who means to hurt me? i think there HAS to be a solution? isnt this HATE SPEECH? isnt there a law against hate speech? i mean, we just got on youtube about 3 months ago, so reading things like you should die has been really painful. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Gena compumaven...@... wrote: I dunno. Like I said I do passionately believe in freedom of speech. It acts as a vent for those that feel like they can't be heard any other way. Even the A-holes, trolls and certain orally fixated people have a means of expression. You might be right about YTs not knowing about comment moderation. I know I use it, I have to. I do think when the young man tried to contact the police there had to be some immediate way for them to contact Google to see the contents of the videos. There should have been an emergency mechanism in place that allowed somebody to see the video and say this is trouble. I type that but it doesn't make me feel comfortable to have that decision in subjective hands. My anger is bottled up between the cultural permission of men to attack women, and people justifying the attacker and not respecting the victim. Even now nastyness is found on Aisha's post if they haven't taken it down yet. My anger is that this is not the first incident of a man attacking a woman who vlogs and certainly not only on YT. I had a fundamentalist whack job on my tail for months telling me how disgusting I was. Women have stopped vlogging/blogging because of online dog piles that they just couldn't stand any more. I don't blame them a bit. Damn it I want the world to be a better place than what it is. It is happening but not fast enough for me. Rascal, you are more like an agent provocateur. Thanks for hearing me. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: That's so awful and sad. I know this is only tangential to it, but I think YouTube's hands-off attitude towards violent, threatening, prejudiced behaviour is appalling. It's a breeding ground for hatred, where people can get themselves more and more worked up, more and more entrenched in their hatred. With the tacit blessing of Google. Yes, people can shout back, but we've all been online long enough to know that freedom of reply does nothing to combat trolls and haters. It just makes them worse, gives them attention. The only answer is to shut them down. I don't know why more people don't turn on comment approval on YouTube, or just turn commenting off altogether. The only reason I can think of is that they don't know they can. And I just don't understand why the most popular video sharing site, potentially a place
Re: [videoblogging] Black Woman YouTube Vlogger Murdered by Stalker
i assume everyone has seen this comments song http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gena compumaven...@earthlink.net wrote: This needs to be known and I will not hold my breath for M$M to pay attention. She is not white nor blond. I found out via other bloggers that this has happened. This is the link for info: Post from What About Our Daughters blog http://is.gd/smml The stalker used YT and Facebook to harass and stalk this young lady. Another YT person did alert the police but, yeah...well. I find myself split. I do believe women needs to participate in web video and carry their voices forward. All women. But yes, I am biased. Especially African-American women. Can't help it and don't want too. But there are old vicious rules about protecting yourself and one of those rules is being silent and invisible. It does not matter. You still wind up dead and no one outside of your family will known. For the record, I will not be silent. I will not be invisible. I don't post on YT because of the type of nasty vile comments, behaviors and TOS. But I do support freedom of speech. Do what this information what you will. I am angry and I am sad. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
