[videoblogging] Great piece on Gawker: The End of Television as We Know It

[Jeffrey Taylor]

http://gawker.com/5265239/the-end-of-television-as-we-know-it , but here's
the good stuff:

You see, with the internet, yes *the internet*, creators of serialized
content can circumvent "the system" and produce their shows independently,
in much the same way that filmmakers began began circumventing the studio
system to develop films a few years back—-They raise money on their own,
shoot the film they want to shoot, and then turn around and showcase at film
festivals where, if the moon and the stars align just right, they're able to
sell their film and it goes on to become a huge success. This model birthed
some of the more smart, intelligent and important films of the modern era,
shot from scripts that may have never seen the light of day otherwise in the
traditional system, because they were "too edgy" or some horseshit like
that. The problem, for years, with doing this with television was that
content creators didn't have a way to showcase their product, they couldn't
take it into a screening room and expect prospective buyers of content to
sit there and spend hours watching a full season of television to see if it
was worth a shit or not, but with the internet they now do. More and more
Americans are watching more and more video online for longer and longer
periods of time, so it stands to reason that sooner or later, someone is
going to raise their own money, shoot their own full length show (half hour
to an hour long) without network interference, put it on the internet, and
it will become a cultural phenomenon, something that people, average people
and not just early adapters, talk about around the proverbial water cooler
at work. In fact, it's probably on the verge of happening right now. And
then a network will swoop in and buy the show to bring it to those still not
watching television on the internet, and other shows will be developed
online and other networks will swoop in and buy them too, but eventually
everyone will watch episodic shows online and there won't be a need for the
traditional networks any longer. Hell, right now, Microsoft and Apple are
both developing programs that will capture all of the video you want to
watch by recording it live as it goes up onto the web and saving it for the
user to view later, just like a DVR or TiVo, except for your computer and
handheld electronic devices. These sort of software programs currently being
developed aggregate video content from all over the web so the user can
watch everything in one place instead of surfing around from site to site to
watch the things they want to watch.

In other words, the need for television networks to develop and air shows
will evaporate. They'll still be there, it's a stretch to say they'll die
off altogether, but they will never be the same. And we'll all be better off
for that.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution

[Adrian Miles]

I think as Bill describes in his more recent post, imagine you've got  
heaps of short clips, each more or less about the same thing. Instead  
of editing them into works, or publishing them as single clips,  
imagine a cloud of clips, with for instance tags. (Simplest model.)  
Then you could use this to make individual works, while also letting  
all clips with a tag become separate works.

On 21/05/2009, at 10:33 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:

> Jay & Adrian, thanks for the examples of video tagging. Seth Keen's  
> work
> looks very cool. I always thought mpeg7 would be used for this but  
> haven't
> heard much about it anymore (& only looked into it years ago for  
> some facial
> recognition stuff which didn't end up happening). I shoot way too  
> much video
> (& take too many photos). most of it would be classed as dross to  
> anyone but
> me (Adrian :) ) but I've found I've looked back on it and found bits  
> I've
> missed etc or seen things in a different light after time, so I like  
> having
> the extra video. (& my videos are really just for me/family/friends)  
> it
> would be cool to tag it like on flickr though (but I must admit I  
> only do
> basic tagging on flickr too - not down to subject of individual  
> shots). one
> of the early videoblogging projects was for tagging clips wasn't it? I
> forget the name of it. started with M I think?


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[videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution

[Bill Cammack]

Thanks for the comments, everybody. :)

Renat, I shoot "spontaneous" situations as well.  When I feel like something 
cool is going to happen or there's something I feel like people might like to 
see or hear, I'm liable to turn the camera on and film something.

Recently picking up my run-n-gun camera made me initially apprehensive about 
the fact that I only had one hour's worth of footage/battery on me.  What I 
found was that the 'moments' that I get are usually less than a minute long.  
They seem like they're happening for a much longer time, at the time, but when 
you look at the counter, a three-minute clip of spontaneous 'action' is a 
lng time.

So I went from a situation of not having enough footage to having so many clips 
that I wanted to share that I didn't have an efficient way of getting those 
clips online.  I essentially kept my "scarce footage" style for when I had much 
more, and that wasn't working for me.

I also didn't want to stack up a bunch of potentially unrelated clips, because 
I felt like each part should have its own location and eventually permalink, 
however, what I ended up with was weeks on end of the exact same event, because 
I never ran out of footage and I still haven't.

I think the solution is similar to what a couple of people have suggested in 
this thread, which is basically a "clip download area" and then curating from 
those clips to create actual blog posts.  What I was doing before was having 
every clip have its own post, because that way they would all go to my iTunes 
feed, instead of having a bunch of enclosures stacked up on the same permalink.

By posting the videos to the host separately from posting them to my site, I 
can accomplish two important goals. 1) I can figure out just which ones I want 
to use as highlights of the series to go on my blog, and 2) I can efficiently 
handle "advertising".. Not meaning rev-share advertising, but meaning informing 
people about my series in a way that's efficient and has, IMO, the most chance 
of getting the most viewers to watch the most episodes.

Again, I used my regular publicizing tactics for this "too much video" 
situation and ended up with a lot of people seeing the beginning of the series, 
but not being aware that there's more to come, because they don't get the 
nature of "episodic" content.  They're more in the standalone, one-off mindset 
of YouTube videos that have nothing to do with each other.  Because of this, I 
ended up informing people several times about the series.  In the future, I 
will already have the series effectively online and ready to be watched in its 
entirety, if people are interested in doing that, BEFORE letting people know 
it's there.

I've also started to be more selective about what I film, as a couple people 
mentioned in this thread.  Now that I know when I have enough material to cover 
the least amount of posting I want to do, I look for shots, scenes and 
situations that are more likely to be worthwhile for me than ending up on the 
cutting room floor, because I was just shooting them "just in case".

~Bill
http://billcammack.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Renat Zarbailov"  wrote:
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> I too tend to film more than I can edit with a 60GB HDD camcorder. Since I 
> only shoot spontaneous situations improv-style interactive comedy 
> (www.mrthyself.com)I approach filming with a motto, "Shoot first, ask 
> questions later". Far too many times there were cases when I didn't have my 
> cam with me but situation was perfect to be captured. The availability of 
> huge hard drives in consumer cams allow for possibility to shoot more noise 
> than signal. By signal I mean something interesting - worthwhile. In my cam I 
> have a way to divide video clips and delete the unwanted before I even plug 
> the cam to a computer for backup. So on my commute from Manhattan to Brooklyn 
> I peacefully "edit" out the crap without wasting time when at the PC. 
> 
> I am thinking about going away from the resource-hungry, albeit storage 
> efficient, AVCHD codec to get the newest marvel from JVC - GY-HM100U. Though 
> it uses dual SD-card approach, the video is pristine, let alone the low-light 
> filming and 3CCD's... Making this switch will make me more efficient about 
> "sensing" where worthwhile action is. 
> 
> I dream about a day that internet has enough universal hi-speed connectivity 
> to allow raw footage stored online in a huge video pool from around the 
> world. This way people can both contribute as well as take from this pool of 
> footage where video can be searched by keywords. Imagine the possibilities? 
> :) There would have to be some in-camcorder system for tagging videos, GPS 
> (Sony's consumer HDR-XR520V), as well as scene/face/motion detection. So the 
> cam writes its EXIF (still cameras use this for exposure etc) info about what 
> it recognized in the video scene and tags it into the video file.
> 
> I am very lazy when it comes to editing, I have

Re: [videoblogging] Can someone remind me of that service?

[Adam Warner]

Thanks Jeffery and Erik, most appreciated!


 
Adam W. Warner
 

 
  





From: Erik Martin 
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:37:54 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Can someone remind me of that service?





I prefer Heyspread to tubemogul unless you need a lot of analytics.

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Re: [videoblogging] Can someone remind me of that service?

[Erik Martin]

I prefer Heyspread to tubemogul unless you need a lot of analytics.

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Jeffrey Taylor
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> Tubemogul?
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> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Adam Warner 
> >
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> > The one that allows video submission to multiple video sites?
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> > Adam W. Warner
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> 912 Cole St, #349
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> USA
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Re: [videoblogging] Can someone remind me of that service?

[Jeffrey Taylor]

Tubemogul?

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Adam Warner  wrote:

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> The one that allows video submission to multiple video sites?
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> Adam W. Warner
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[videoblogging] Can someone remind me of that service?

[Adam Warner]

The one that allows video submission to multiple video sites?


 
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[videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June

[Gena]

Ok, now I feel like Heath usually does because I can't figure out how to swing 
it $$$ wise (airfare/housing.) I now have the official vlogger pouty face and I 
don't like it. 

Heath, you gotta go, even if it is just for Saturday.

Whimpering my way to work,

Gena

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> You just have to go Heath .. Someone has to wear the Sony Vegas hat
> ..hahaha
>  
> Cheers Rambo 
> http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heath
> Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2009 4:52 AM
> To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June
>  
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> 
> 
> Hmmm I wonder if I should keep up my streak of NOT going to events with
> other vloggers or should I break trend and go.
> 
> Seeing Richard and Rupert and a few others may be worth it
> 
> Heath
> http://heathparks.  com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@ 
> yahoogroups.com, "Richard (Show) Hall"  wrote:
> >
> > Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I registered,
> made
> > reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me two
> emails to
> > say so ... see you there ... richard
> > 
> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall <
> > richard@> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm seriously considering going.
> > >
> > > ...peace...richard
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman  wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group rate, so
> I'd
> > >> > be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is.
> > >> > Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make sure I'm
> > >> > where the action is :-)
> > >>
> > >> People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with
> friends.
> > >> I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are considerably
> > >> cheaper, but offer much less privacy.
> > >>
> > >> You could make a page on http://videobloggin
>  ggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you
> > >> wanted to start a place to find room sharing.
> > >>
> > >> The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will take
> place
> > >> in Lower East Side.
> > >>
> > >> Jay
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> http://ryanishungry  .com
> > >> http://jaydedman.  com
> > >> http://twitter.  com/jaydedman
> > >> 917 371 6790
> > >> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Great resource of articles about Online video

[Irina]

i think rupert's way of doing it could be very fun and lively

my way of doing it is fun but i have an editor :)

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Richard (Show) Hall <
rich...@richardshow.org> wrote:

> Thanks Jay ... this looks like a great resource ...
>
> It's interesting that, since 2005, when I started vlogging I've been,
> pretty
> much unsuccessfully trying to marry my very fun and exciting experience
> vlogging with my research. Although, I did have a student do a thesis on
> the
> video blog community, and a proceedings paper, and I made a video for the
> internet researchers conference, it hasn't been very fullfilling.
>
> At the same time, my vlogging has fallen off and been very sporadic.
>
> I'm trying to get excited and passionate again (about some variation on
> video and the web) - I'm thinking maybe the open video conference may be
> just the ticket, so I'm considering coming to New Yourk in June, if I can
> get some funds.
>
> ...peace...richard
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Jay dedman  wrote:
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> > If you are into doing research, or need official articles for citation,
> > check out:
> > http://www.strangelove.com/blog/
> >
> >   - A database of over *over 270 academic articles*, many of which are
> >   freely available on the Internet. This bibliographic database can be
> >   searched via
> > subject<
> > http://www.strangelove.com/blog/article-indexes/subject-index-articles/
> > >and
> >   author<
> > http://www.strangelove.com/blog/article-indexes/scholarly-articles/
> > >indexes.
> > The entire contents of the database are also freely available in
> >   the YouTube Bibliography<
> > http://www.strangelove.com/blog/youtube-bibliograhy/>document.
> >
> >
> >   - The *Watching YouTube* database documents selected articles, books,
> and
> >   other printed and electronic sources, including YouTube videos such as
> > Mike
> >   Wesch’s *An Anthropological Introduction to
> > YouTube*<
> >
> http://www.strangelove.com/blog/2009/03/anthropological-introduction-youtube/
> > >that
> > are significant to the study of YouTube and online video.
> >
> >
> >   - Statistics<
> >
> http://www.strangelove.com/blog/tracking-growth-rate-youtube-online-video/statistics-updates/
> > >on
> > the growth of YouTube and online video.
> >
> >
> >   - Selected news items and articles from the world
> > press
> >   .
> >
> >
> >
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