[videoblogging] Re: Choices outside of ourmedia.org

[David Dundas]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Hey Verdi, 

Thanks for the questions. This is a very beta version of YATV. Some of
the questions that you ask are things that we are sorting out as a
company as far as best technical implimentation to provide accurate
metrics for tracking files and RSS enclosures. 

Coming very soon... embedded player code. So that instead of linking
directly to the file, you can just take the code and embed it in your
page. It's pretty standard, across many sites, but we wanted to launch
our with some cool features that dont exist in most players.  

RSS enclosures is a bit further down the list but is something that we
definitely plan on including. 


> Hey David,
> Very nice terms of use there on youare.tv. I have a question about
how it
> works though. It looks like you guys don't provide any direct link
to the
> video. You have to view source find the url and append it to
yourare.tv. Why
> is this? The way you have it set up, really the only way to watch
things is
> locked in there on the site. Also the RSS feeds only point to the
video page
> not the video so you can't subscribe in FireAnt or something similar.
> -Verdi
> 
> On 4/19/06, David Dundas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Hey Joe,
> >
> > What are you seeking a hosting service for? Is they personal videos,
> > blog posting, or is it some type of produced content?
> >
> > Are you looking for a lot of traffic for your video or are you just
> > looking for something to share videos?
> >
> > I would say if you are looking for blog integration blip tv is first
> > in class. If you are looking at personal video sharing, vsocial is a
> > decent service. For a ton of traffic you but less than desirable
rights terms can use Youtube or Myspace.
> > Or if your video is a regularly produced show, or short films, our
> > site YouAreTV <http://www.youare.tv> does that really well I think :).
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Verdi"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I seem to be having difficulty in publishing videos to ourmedia.
> > > I go through the form, hit submit and about 5 minutes later I get a
> > > blank page or one of those pages you get when a page can't be
> > > displayed. Then I check my ourmedia.org page and it doesn't list the
> > > video.
> > >
> > > Anyone know of any alternatives?
> > >
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> > > Thanks,
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> > > Joe
> > > www.joeverdi.blogspot.com
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[videoblogging] Re: Choices outside of ourmedia.org

[David Dundas]

Hey Joe, What are you seeking a hosting service for? Is they personal videos,blog posting, or is it some type of produced content? Are you looking for a lot of traffic for your video or are you justlooking for something to share videos? I would say if you are looking for blog integration blip tv is firstin class. If you are looking at personal video sharing, vsocial is adecent service. For a ton of traffic you but less than desirable rights terms can use Youtube or Myspace.Or if your video is a regularly produced show, or short films, oursite YouAreTV does that really well I think :). --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I seem to be having difficulty in publishing videos to ourmedia.  > I go through the form, hit submit and about 5 minutes later I get a > blank page or one of those pages you get when a page can't be > displayed.  Then I check my ourmedia.org page and it doesn't list the > video.  > > Anyone know of any alternatives?> > > Thanks,> > Joe> www.joeverdi.blogspot.com>






  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: MySpace moves into TV

[David Dundas]

The article is more about Myspace adspace being bundled with TV
packages. From the title I would have thought Myspace was starting a
television station or something like that. 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> There is an interesting story in Media Post Publications "MySpace
Moves Into The TV Space" 4/18/2006.
> 
> This is the link for the story:
>
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> 
> Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
> 
> Videographer, Writer, Activist
> Advisor: The Immortality Institute
> http://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20Wicker
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[videoblogging] Re: Who owns culture?

[David Dundas]

Yeah. I think there's a fine line there between an engine that
searches and discovers and points back to the site and a service that
actually transcodes and hosts that content. They are distributing with
out distribution rights. 

For example we are seeing new media search engines get a hold of our
feeds, and offering them in their listings. It's something that we are
watching very closely. 

And also something that we are still fighting with as we think about
how to deal with media enclosures in RSS. 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> David Dundas wrote:
> > Lawrence Lessig did an introductory talk at the New York Public
Library
> > about copyright law and technology on April 7, 2005.
> > He says that copyright laws stifle creativity, and democracy.  It's an
> > idea that begs the question. Would you stop creating what you
create if
> > someone could just take it and do whatever they wanted with it?
> 
> Like, say, the Veoh issue...?
> 
> 
> Some folks seem to conjugate the verb "I have privacy rights, you have 
> terms-of-service, he has evil DRM." Humans produce digital bits, and to 
> be full citizens I think we need to respect the privacy/copyright 
> decisions of others.
> 
> (I think the Sonny Bono extensions to US copyright law were pretty 
> bogus, but more and more I'm realizing that creativity and privacy are 
> inextricably linked... if you create some digital bits, does that mean 
> anyone else has the right to repurpose them? Suppose they ignore your 
> precious little Creative Commons text, what recourse do you have to
that 
> breach of an assumed social contract?)
> 
> jd
> 
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[videoblogging] Re: Who owns culture?

[David Dundas]

Agreed. He does say that he is against piracy. No intention to
misrepresent Lessig.  

I was more just interested in what the group thought about people
taking their work to create new things, and how that is balanced once
your work accrues value (monetary or otherwise)over simply being a hobby. 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I've not watched this video but I've heard Lessig say many times that
> he's not *against* copyright or other IP laws in general. He is
> against certain laws in the USA pertaining to these issues.
> 
> He's also against how copyright in a practical sense is the province
> of rich corps and their lawyers. That is, he argues that tho something
> may fall under 'fair use,' in a practical sense fair use doesn't exist
> because most individuals can't afford to make a fair use arg before a
> court of law.
> 
> On 4/7/06, David Dundas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe that's his general argument, but in this talk, which is a
> > challenge to incite discussion he does question the premise of
copyright.
> >
> > Did you get the opportunity to watch it?
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I think your misrepresenting Lessig slightly. He doesn't really
> > > argue against copyright, he argues against the way they are
> > > currently written. There's a difference.
> > >
> > > Bill Streeter
> > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > > www.lofistl.com
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Dundas" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Group,
> > > >
> > > > I don't typically post videos from YouAreTV in forums, but I think
> > > this
> > > > one is very pertinent.
> > > >
> > > > Lawrence Lessig did an introductory talk at the New York Public
> > > Library
> > > > about copyright law and technology on April 7, 2005.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youare.tv/watch.php?id=534
> > > > <http://www.youare.tv/watch.php?id=534>
> > > >
> > > > He says that copyright laws stifle creativity, and democracy.
> > > It's an
> > > > idea that begs the question. Would you stop creating what you
> > > create if
> > > > someone could just take it and do whatever they wanted with it?
> > > The
> > > > content creators I talk to are seeking exposure today, so they are
> > > > willing to place their content wherever they can.  As some of them
> > > grow
> > > > in popularity, I am sure that we'll see them become more
> > > protective over
> > > > their work.
> > > >
> > > > It's a great presentation.  Lessig is a very smart guy.
> > > >
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[videoblogging] Re: Who owns culture?

[David Dundas]

Maybe that's his general argument, but in this talk, which is a
challenge to incite discussion he does question the premise of copyright. 

Did you get the opportunity to watch it?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I think your misrepresenting Lessig slightly. He doesn't really 
> argue against copyright, he argues against the way they are 
> currently written. There's a difference.
> 
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Dundas"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Group,
> > 
> > I don't typically post videos from YouAreTV in forums, but I think 
> this
> > one is very pertinent.
> > 
> > Lawrence Lessig did an introductory talk at the New York Public 
> Library
> > about copyright law and technology on April 7, 2005.
> > 
> > http://www.youare.tv/watch.php?id=534
> > <http://www.youare.tv/watch.php?id=534>
> > 
> > He says that copyright laws stifle creativity, and democracy.  
> It's an
> > idea that begs the question. Would you stop creating what you 
> create if
> > someone could just take it and do whatever they wanted with it?  
> The
> > content creators I talk to are seeking exposure today, so they are
> > willing to place their content wherever they can.  As some of them 
> grow
> > in popularity, I am sure that we'll see them become more 
> protective over
> > their work.
> > 
> > It's a great presentation.  Lessig is a very smart guy.
> >
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[videoblogging] Who owns culture?

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Hi Group, I don't typically post videos from YouAreTV in forums, but I think this one is very pertinent. Lawrence Lessig did an introductory talk at the New York Public Library about copyright law and technology on April 7, 2005. http://www.youare.tv/watch.php?id=534 He says that copyright laws stifle creativity, and democracy.  It's an idea that begs the question. Would you stop creating what you create if someone could just take it and do whatever they wanted with it?  The content creators I talk to are seeking exposure today, so they are willing to place their content wherever they can.  As some of them grow in popularity, I am sure that we'll see them become more protective over their work. It's a great presentation.  Lessig is a very smart guy.


  




  
  
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[videoblogging] The next Myspace?

[David Dundas]

Re: Our Mypsace discussion last week...here is a blog entry from a great business blog that I read religiously describing what could be the next Myspace (note: the article is not about me or YouAreTV).  http://gigaom.com/2006/03/04/david-vs-murdoch-er-goliath/-Davidyouare.tv  





  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

[David Dundas]

I actually have been sitting this convo out... but because there have
been so many emails with myspace in the subject dropped in my inbox
over the past few days, I thought i'd contribute...


I can't think of one example that has had this type of integrated
environment and lasted... geocities, aol? Being recent college grad
('03) I saw the fall of Friendster. I saw people stop using AIM when
they moved out of college, I saw a ton of people use Skype last year,
and not so much anymore. I see now people in college using Facebook
instead of Friendster and Myspace... these things inevitably get
replaced. Myspace won't go away tomorrow, but the site is still a
primarily a social means of keeping in touch and identity...as the
main users of this site (16-24)grow out of this stage I can't see them
sticking with it.  

I don't think it matters what type of  environment Myspace is. What
the experience is, what the upload process is, what the content
ownership terms are. The fact remains that today Myspace has a
ridiculous amount of traffic, and for bloggers seeking visibility,
from the sounds of it, tools, user experiences, peer environment and
content rights are willing to be exchanged for visibility and traffic.
Until Myspace goes "out of style" if it ever does, people will be
attracted to it for the sheer page views that they drive. They don't
have to do any of the aforementioned things because they are the big
dogs. 

  

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "hpbatman7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Which was kinda my point from my orginal post that was somewhat taken 
> out of contextit is young "now" but will it still be in 5 
> years...I keep saying this but it seems to get drowned out.I 
> mean bands, comedians, and now filmmakers are putting there stuff out 
> in myspace to build buzz, promote feedback and to try thinngs 
> out.wouldn't vlogging just be an extension of that?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl  
> wrote:
> >
> > Peter Van Dijck wrote:
> > >> is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue 
> to
> > >> use it after High School and College?
> > > 
> > > I think that's as unlikely as your daughter who is into goth still
> > > wearing those clothes in 10 years.
> > 
> > I dunno, I still wear the same funny clothes I did almost 20 years 
> ago. 
> > (Well, when I'm  not working for the man.) Which is either 
> something to 
> > be proud of, or ashamed of... I'm still not sure which.
> > 
> > Pete
> > 
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[videoblogging] Re: Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?

[David Dundas]

I think that what you have to realize about Myspace is that it is
first about identity, and then about content. So much of the
craziness of Myspace is about having or wanting to Maintain an
identity. And that is why it is so huge among the demographic of the
teens to the mid twenties where they spend much time defining who they
are from a social perspective.  

I have a login for Facebook(www.facebook.com)... and I use that as a
BC alum to stay in touch with people from college. I have a login at
Linkedin (www.linkedin.com) and I use that for my professional
networking. I have heard about a social networking site that is
launching soon geared towards social activists. I think that as social
networking sites mature they will become more specialized. And I think
that today Myspace is just the MTV of the social networking world.

When we were building YouAreTV, we built social networking into the
site as a means for discovery of video for people you may know or
whose opinion you respect, and getting and giving feedback for videos
on the site. We also built the social networking so that you could get
to know the person behind the video.  However, I would not consider
YouAreTV a social networking site, but we do have social networking
features. In the case of YouAreTV the video is central. For Myspace
the user, the individual is central. 
>From what I know about blogger culture information is central "how
much do I know about various topics." So where features may overlap
with all
of these sites where you may consume "stuff: video, images,
information" they are not all the same. 
It's a nuanced difference but should be noted.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> That article you linked to was good. So far people have been extremely
> fickle with social networking sites, I see no reason why it will be
> any different with myspace.
> 
> It has some good features, I personally hate it because its a mess. Oh
> yeah and I am biased against it because its owned by Murdoch.
> 
> Although there are clear benefits to such a large scale of social
> networking, I prefer smaller & more specialised communities, ansd
> cleaner user interfaces.
> 
> Right now I am fixated with drupal and what it can do in terms of
> letting people create groups. I am currently in the early stages of
> remaking vjcentral.com so that it uses drupal & takes advantage of all
> the stuff thats emerged over the last few years, like tagging,
> videoblogging etc.
> 
> I am more than amazed that the videoblogging community hasnt done
> something similar, and has stuck with an array of semi-connected
> sites, yahoo groups etc. I know particular sites such as ourmedia are
> using the group stuff in drupal, but there doesnt seem to be that much
> overlap between who & what is going on there, and members of this list.
> 
> Node101 strikes me as great example of something that would benefit
> greatly from having this sort of online presence. New groups can be
> created by anyone to represent a new node, nodes can publish material
> that is seen by just that one node, or shared with certain other
> groups, or with everyone. I am formally volunterring to help with such
> an effort if it is wanted. I will post about this again once I got a
> beta of the new vjcentral running, so any interested people can take a
> look and see if such a system would be useful for node101 etc.
> 
> Steve of Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
> >
> > >  Dave Toole recently asked his 16yr old daughter to explain why
> she finds MySpace so interesting.
> > >  I asked him to vlog it and share it with us.
> > >  He posted it tonight on ourmedia and our SpinFlow vlog
> > >  http://outhink.blogs.com/spinflow/2006/02/why_is_myspace_.html
> > 
> > Talk about market research.
> > this is exactly what i needed to understand.
> > I needed to SEE what a typical user likes about MySpace.
> > Dave asked all the right questions.
> > 
> > i guess MySpace provides what i hear a lot of bloggers want.
> > who's watching me?
> > how many friends do i have?
> > we all want an audience.
> > I know thats why i got involved in videoblogging.
> > I just wanted to meet other people.
> > 
> > but for whatever reason, MySpace still seems like a dead end.
> > doesnt seem like it will last.
> > I like to think that media we create will last...so it means something
> > in the future.
> > I wonder if MySpace has that kind of longevity.
> > http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1650209&page=1
> > 
> > jay
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[videoblogging] Re: Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?

[David Dundas]

Myspace has succeeded in providing people with an online identity as a
n easy messaging interface within the Myspace ecosystem. In doing
this, they have grown astronomically. I heard a figure like 10% of all
advertising on the web is on Myspace which almost floored me. So the
traffic that one may receive on Myspace is undeniable. 

Indie bands and now idie filmmakers are using Myspace as a way to
reach hundreds of thousands of people about their projects or work. 
What I think is yet to be seen is if this frenetic environment that
Myspace has created will appeal to everyone. 

As people have said the "geocities-like" interface is immediately a
turnoff for some. This blog actually articulates pretty well why you
would NOT want to use Myspace
http://blogs.stolenmixtape.com/mix/archives/2005/10/26/myspace-should-not-be-your-bands-only-web-presence/

I think Myspace is great for traffic, but you have very little control
over your blog outside of layout. The traffic you direct to your
profile is Myspace's traffic, some bloggers would like to some day
make money on their blog, and Myspace will NEVER allow for users to
monetize their profiles or anything in those profiles.

Also Myspace is content is not open. There are no RSS feeds to
profiles or content. So syndication outside of that environment is
impossible. We saw earlier this year when Youtube started to grow, and
the embedding of Youtube video grew on Myspace profiles, Myspace
blocked the video embedding code. They only allowed the code again
after Youtube and Myspace users wrote myspace about it. A few weeks
later Myspace released their beta video offering. 

So as a content creator I can see why you would be attracted to the
sheer scale of the Myspace network, but I would definitely be worried
about Myspace controlling everything you can do within that network
and your ability to ever montetize that. The average teen doesn't care
about, but I think anyone who has content that matters would. 

David 
www.youare.tv
"Get your video out there."

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> Jay,
> 
> In the film part, it is set up for people to network and communicate
> with other people in the industry from festival people to filmmakers,
> editors, actors etc. It is just another avenue where people
> communicate. It also is a place that people use to brand themselves in
> a sense. Meeting others and getting others to know them and their work. 
> 
> When you have a community that is drawn together for a common goal, it
> is much easier to achieve that goal than on a standard blog where one
> has to hope that someone finds them. I think you see a lot of indie
> people on there with that strong desire to network, communicate etc. I
> have used it for casting, networking around this new doc that I'm
> shooting and it has been amazing actually from dealing with subjects,
> crew and actors on various projects. 
> 
> I've also been contacted for projects to collaborate on that are quite
> exciting. The blog itself isn't that much different than a normal blog
> except for the context that it exists within. This context is for
> networking and the blogs tend to be driven towards the project that
> you are working on.
> 
> In the regular myspace world, not the film or the music, it's just a
> place where people are hooking up with old friends or new
> friends/dating potentials. All in all it is a pretty amazing concept
> that seems to be drawing a ton of attention obviously and has proven
> to be a great marketing tool for the music and film industry.
> 
> Lynn
> 
> Coal River Pictures
> www.CoalRiverPictures.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> vlog:
> "Docmaker on the Go"
> http://www.docmaker.blogspot.com
> 
> coming soon:
> Vlogumentarian.com
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman"  wrote:
> >
> > > I was curious if any of you guys were on there? It's a great place
> > > actually to network and meet other people in the indie film world.
> > > Another online community waiting for you...haha.
> > > If you are, look me up: myspace.com/lynnlane
> > 
> > can someone enlighten me here.
> > why is a myspace blog different from a regular blog?
> > 
> > I see people at work making "buddies"...is it that part of it?
> > becasue you connect to otrher MySpace people?
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > --
> > Adventures in Videoblogging
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

[David Dundas]

Thanks Sull...we're working at it. It'll be fun to see where all of
this goes. BTW If anyone will be at sxsw we'll be on a panel. I'd love
to have our guys meet you. Obviously email offline :). 



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > But these ratings types really only work when you get a fair cross
> > sampling of users.
> 
> 
> this is key.
> 
> btw, keep up the good work on youare.tv.  i enjoy it.
> 
> sull
> 
> On 2/22/06, David Dundas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Working on it :). I love reading this group because you all are so far
> > ahead of "regular" people. I love it because it is what is driving
> > mainstream 6-12 months out. Believe it or not I still have a hard time
> > explaing RSS to my friends and family!
> >
> > So while all of these features are being built and considered,
> > aggregators are still learning how people are using the site, and what
> > their habits are. For example. I love dig as a site. But because its
> > so seeming teen/tech heavy the only articles that "bubble" are about
> > Apple, Linux, or Google.
> > So now I try Newsvine, and its more progressive news with a NY times
> > slant because of the types of people using it.
> >
> > I have said this in past posts...but give us some time to mature a bit
> > and the audience to moderate a bit, and our offerings will improve.
> > But these ratings types really only work when you get a fair cross
> > sampling of users.
> >
> > -David
> > www.youare.tv
> > "Get your video out there"
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Paul  wrote:
> > >
> > > I've mentioned this to a small amount of people, but I'll put it out
> > > there to the 2000+ of the group.
> > >
> > > I think there is a great opportunity for the aggregators to use
> > > Bayesian-type filtering (think email spam filters) to help gather
> > > videos of interest to the viewer. If the aggregator can
ascertain the
> > > context from the blog post (and possibly the related tags in a
> > > directory like MeFeedia or FireAnt), then it can use that context to
> > > determine the "type" of video. It could then filter the videos
> > > appropriately.
> > >
> > > Right now I have 373 unwatched videos in FireAnt. If it had a way to
> > > "learn" what I like, it could then "bubble up" the videos I want to
> > > watch.
> > >
> > > Hopefully someone will run with this (MeFeedia, FireAnt,
I/ON...anyone?)
> > >
> > > My 2¢.
> > >
> > > --
> > > joshpaul
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
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[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

[David Dundas]

Working on it :). I love reading this group because you all are so far
ahead of "regular" people. I love it because it is what is driving
mainstream 6-12 months out. Believe it or not I still have a hard time
explaing RSS to my friends and family! 

So while all of these features are being built and considered,
aggregators are still learning how people are using the site, and what
their habits are. For example. I love dig as a site. But because its
so seeming teen/tech heavy the only articles that "bubble" are about
Apple, Linux, or Google. 
So now I try Newsvine, and its more progressive news with a NY times
slant because of the types of people using it. 

I have said this in past posts...but give us some time to mature a bit
and the audience to moderate a bit, and our offerings will improve.
But these ratings types really only work when you get a fair cross
sampling of users. 

-David 
www.youare.tv
"Get your video out there"
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've mentioned this to a small amount of people, but I'll put it out  
> there to the 2000+ of the group.
> 
> I think there is a great opportunity for the aggregators to use  
> Bayesian-type filtering (think email spam filters) to help gather  
> videos of interest to the viewer. If the aggregator can ascertain the  
> context from the blog post (and possibly the related tags in a  
> directory like MeFeedia or FireAnt), then it can use that context to  
> determine the "type" of video. It could then filter the videos  
> appropriately.
> 
> Right now I have 373 unwatched videos in FireAnt. If it had a way to  
> "learn" what I like, it could then "bubble up" the videos I want to  
> watch.
> 
> Hopefully someone will run with this (MeFeedia, FireAnt, I/ON...anyone?)
> 
> My 2¢.
> 
> --
> joshpaul
>






 
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[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Monsters

[David Dundas]

I think what really makes them interesting is that they are one of the
first (of many to follow) filmmakers to really take it their success
into their own hands. They are certainly pioneers. 

So one of the content creators on our site said the hardest thing on
myspace on the web, on any medium where barriers to entry are below
sea level is rising above the noise. One of our content creators said
that directly. 

I think now that literally everyone is equipped with the same tools it
will become a game of who can be heard the loudest among all of the
noise out there. 

BTW can someone tell me how to create a signature?? Thanks :)

David Dundas
www.youare.tv
"Get your video out there."


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard BF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >These two
> >young people have taken video blogging to a whole new level and 
> >really deserve some sort of best video blog of the year award.
> 
> OK, so I'm going to call you on this.
> 
> How have they "taken video blogging to a whole new level"?
> 
> My understanding is that they made a short film, like tens of 
> thousands of people do each year, and in a traditional anti-new media 
> move, have submitted it to a short film festival (like tens of 
> thousands of people do each year), and it did OK, but not great (like 
> thousands of short films do each year).
> 
> Then to promote the film, they did six short video pieces about the 
> behind the scenes of making the film. Sounds a lot like what Matthew 
> Clayfield did with Kite Circuit[1].
> 
> Am I understanding correctly?
> 
> The only thing that piqued my interest, was a statement by the 
> filmmakers that the videos were extensions of the film, and although 
> they didn't directly say it, by implication the personas in the 
> videos are subsequently fictional. Sounds like another online serial 
> to me.
> 
> I admit the charcter (not narrative) connection between film and 
> video is interesting, but no different to mainstream media doing a 
> film and a TV series.
> 
> I haven't seen their film. In fact I couldn't find anywhere on their 
> site which tells me where or how to see the film. My recommendation 
> to them would be to release it,  at least in low quality, on the web. 
> Perhaps the buzz from making the connection between film and video 
> series would generate them more attention.
> 
> >I am astonished at their production skills combined with brilliant
> >writing and assembling from a wide variety of shots including serious
> >special effects to deliver an amazing virtual experience into their
lives
> 
> I couldn't see anything particularly "brilliant" in the video series.
> 
> >It is truly a gift from GOD what they are doing.
> 
> Like I said, I haven't seen the film, so it could be REALLY good.
> 
> Having said that, I think they need to take a step back and embrace 
> the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium 
> essentially to promote an offline product. It would thus be offensive 
> to give them any kind of video blogging award for this.
> 
> Or maybe I've misundertood.
> 
> Regards,
>   Richard
> 
> [1] http://www.sequential-one.com/kitecircuit/
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[videoblogging] Re: stickam

[David Dundas]

HA! We're all about "contextual" ads these days right :)? 

At any rate, I think it was just my way possibly bringing light to
biases, or needs fulfillment ... I look foward to seeing how it develops!

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Deirdre Straughan"
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>
> On 2/17/06, dundas40u40 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > So I'd say that is something to keep in mind as you are doing your
> > comparison, and perhaps when all is said and done say "This site is
> > great for..." I have not see that being pondered or discussed yet.
> > That is, how the various video sites fit different needs.
> 
> 
> 
> Very true. I would not presume to tell you who your intended
audience/market
> is or should be, so will judge your service against what you tell me
you're
> trying to do. Not that I claim to be a final arbiter of any sort - I
don't
> have time or resources to really do justice to the job. What I can
say in my
> favor is that I did it, it's up there, and I'll try to maintain it, and,
> since I host my own videos on DreamHost and don't actually need any
of you
> guys, I don't have any stake in supporting one over another (unless, of
> course, you want to buy ad space... ).
> 
> --
> best regards,
> Deirdré Straughan
> 
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