Re: [videoblogging] Re: WebM Project
Have you read about the BBC Domesday Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Domesday_Project)?, no? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Dark_Age or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_obsolescence the open source community are only one who can keep project going for decades eg: unix started in 1969 and is still going today Corporations fold or merge ever 5 years tom_a_sparks --- On Mon, 7/6/10, adammerc...@att.net adammerc...@att.net wrote: From: adammerc...@att.net adammerc...@att.net Subject: [videoblogging] Re: WebM Project To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Received: Monday, 7 June, 2010, 5:31 PM Great discussion. I've been asked to present at the Orange County Multimedia Web Video SIG next week on this subject and this post has been an invaluable resource. Thanks to everyone for sharing links and opinions. Its interesting and exciting to see progress made with these tools, but I still dont quite get the whole open source movement. Why is it such a big deal, especially in regards to web video? Or any content for that matter? In my opinion H264 is so great (and it is) because some very smart people were paid to develop the algorithms. If VP8 is only kinda sorta as good as the very worst part of H264, where is the incentive for it to be improved? Or any open source software for that matter? I'm happy to pay a fee for commercial software, or a license therein as part of any fee. My experiments with open source software I have tried lead me to the conclusion its mostly crap. I use photoshop, for example, and not GIMP because GIMP is crap. It is. I'll happily pay a huge corporation for the right to use their software because it works. Well. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong open source tree here, so forgive me and correct me. Regarding Flash, and rich user interface. Why is it cool if HTML5 or WebM can create a rich UI with full screen video, or the browser as a canvas for video to play on? Flash has done that for years. My complaints about Flash on the web are not political, but practical. Flash causes more browser crashes than anything else. I'd be happy to use Flash for web video, if it worked. So i guess, if an open source solution arises that can solve that issue I'm for it. But H264 has already got that solved so HTML5 has Flash beat, and the game is won. I looked over these pages and its a great primer http://www.apple.com/html5/ but I'm not sure where the open source codecs fit in to the equation, why it would be better. Lets face it, without Flash, there would be no web video as we know it today. There would be no Vimeo, or Blip. There would be no videoblogging community as large and healthy as it is. Frequently I hear many of the top posters on this group bagging on Flash. Sounds like biting the hand that feeds is all. I just wonder why... All that grumbling said, WebM looks like a good move in the right direction. And further proof web video is now, it is the future, it is here to stay, it is best platform for distributing content, everything we've all been saying for years. I'm sure Google will put all their might behind it and it will improve in the months and years to come. As the X264 blogger wrote, it is all part of the larger Google web video advertising platform. Which makes me wonder which huge corporation is really the enemy of truth and choice, but thats a whole other discussion :) Erm, Navigaya...I only have so much negativity I can share in one day so i'll avoid comment on this for now :P Cheers, i look forward the continuation of this discussion and rebuttals and opinions -adam --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi mich...@... wrote: Oh and I forgot to post the link to the WebM discussion group: https://groups.google.com/a/webmproject.org/group/webm-discuss/topics On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Michael Verdi mich...@... wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote: Meanwhile apparently someone that knows a bit about the tech of video codecs had an initial look at VP8 and was quite concerned about some similarities in certain functions to h.264. This leaves the door open for patent woes for WebM, although it is far too early to tell if that will become an issue at some point. At the very least we should not get too complacent about WebM, its future is not completely assured, but hopefully it will all work out ok. What I've heard from codec people is that that stuff is exactly what NOT to be worried about. The codec patents are really specific and the stuff in VP8 that's like H.264 is exactly where they did something different to avoid infringing their patent. Remember that most of the anti-WebM stuff so far is from people heavily invested (either in $ or time) in H.264. My suspicion is that Google didn't spend $120 million willy nilly. And remember, their plan is that
Re: [videoblogging] Re: WebM Project
--- On Mon, 7/6/10, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au wrote: From: Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: WebM Project To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Received: Monday, 7 June, 2010, 9:13 PM hi all I've kept out of this, but comments below, sorry Tom, Linux is open source (it was written, quite recently in the history of unix, because there was *no* open source unix), but unix is not open source, never has been. Proprietary all the way as far as I know:no it mostly shared source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.svg the open source/Hacker community born in 1960 and it may not have if unix was around The issue for survivability is uptake. In 1993 on the web most in media did not see it as having a viable commercial future, if it remained only for hobbyists/geeks/tech types they would have been right. Mosaic was invented, (http existed well before Mosaic, we used Lynx to view webpages) and the web very quickly became compelling. If mosaic - a graphical browser - had not come along, well, who knows but the internet could have remained a small, busy, vocal place for academics and geeks. the Arpanet, could have been a very small place but then again we could be using FideoNet we are getting off topic On 7 June 2010 17:56, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: the open source community are only one who can keep project going for decades eg: unix started in 1969 and is still going today cheers Adrian Miles http://vogmae.net.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] short-film ideas using a 360 degree lens
I seen 1000's of these panorama videos [1][2] I am trying to think of a story/drama that would make a 360 degree lens worth using Currently I am think of a docudrama/LARP[3]/reality tv style vampire hunt are there any ideas you can think of? [1] http://gardengnomesoftware.com/pano2vr_sample.php?demo=video [2] http://www.eyesee360.com/videowarp/flash/ [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game tom_a_sparks
[videoblogging] 1930-1950 b-grade scifi film serials
I am at doing looking at doing a 1930-1950 b-grade scifi film serials like Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers Has anybody worked with miniatures? How would i do chroma key without blue/green screen? tom_a_sparks Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. but instead use OpenDocument File Formats or use OpenOffice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox
[videoblogging] website host that allow ffmpeg
I looking for a list of website host who allow the use of ffmpeg tom_a_sparks Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox
Re: [videoblogging] website host that allow ffmpeg
the video i upload well be transcoded, i am looking at setting up a gallery witch well let member upload a 10MB/20MB video file so i'll need to transcode the video and extract a still image i found dreamhost.com and cirtexhosting.com any comments on them? tom_a_sparks Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --- On Fri, 13/3/09, Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Tom, I have just installed and configured a digital asset management system for my company, and this required FFMPEG for the video portion. I can't say enough about the host I use because their support is second to none. They are named SynHosting and I have several sites hosted with them, both on shared and virtual dedicated servers. You will need a virtual dedicated for FFMPEG. By the way, I also use GoDaddy, HostGator, and others, but I will be moving all of my sites (over 3 dozen) to SynHosting because I'm so pleased. You can learn more about the DAM system here http://wordpressmod der.org/open- source-software- review-resources pace-digital- asset-management -328.html Read reviews of SynHosting here http://hostjury. com/reviews/ SYN-Hosting p.s. Full Disclosure - If you do decide to go with them, I will make an affiliate fee if you follow the link from my site above;) Adam W. Warner Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox
[videoblogging] Re: PC Editing Programs
I currently use virtualdub for video editing and joining and super for converting to mov I got other programs (both payed for AU$20.00 and free) that dont live up to there claims on and off used to use windows movie maker v2 (now crashs on importing video :( ) I once used MGI videowave 1.0 (now Roxio videowave) and Media Studio Pro 2.5b (wont work on XP SP2, lack of memory when importing :( ) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Codec for Win Move Maker to use MP4's
super is another good converter I use also freeware http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html http://www.australianownershousebusinessrealestateadvertising.com http://www.australianfsbo.com http://www.australianforsalebyowner.com http://www.australianownerscartransportadvertising.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
