Re: [videoblogging] Eolas

2006-04-06 Thread Christian Wach
Heh, JD hangs out here!

For those of you who don't know - JD has been helping people solve their
Director and Flash problems for as long as I can remember... and, as a
(now ex-) member of Direct-L since 1995, I can honestly say that it is
well worth listening to this man's advice.

Cheers for the info John.

Christian

On 6 Apr 2006, at 19:20, John Dowdell wrote:

> Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote:
>> Should we be concerned about Microsoft's making changes to IE to  
>> conform
>> to the Eolas decision?
>
> I haven't installed the optional Microsoft update to IE6 yet (or  
> the IE7
> beta), but from all I've heard, video plays just the same as before...
> it's interactivity which requires that initial click before  
> receiving focus.
>
> If you've got a pause/play/volume interface within your video (as with
> FLV skins) then someone in a new Microsoft system will see a "Please
> click" message during mouseover, and then they'll be able to  
> shuttle the
> video. (I'm not sure what happens if you use house chrome for playback
> controls, a la QuickTime, Real, or WMP... suspect it's the same.)
>
> Summary: Should display fine regardless, but it's interactivity  
> with the
> video which is at the center of the dispute.
>
> I've seen lots of people hacking together their preferred solutions  
> over
> the past month, but the best set of general links and recommendations
> I've seen is still at the Adobe Active Content Center:
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/
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Re: [videoblogging] Eolas

2006-04-06 Thread John Dowdell
Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote:
> Should we be concerned about Microsoft's making changes to IE to conform
> to the Eolas decision?

I haven't installed the optional Microsoft update to IE6 yet (or the IE7 
beta), but from all I've heard, video plays just the same as before... 
it's interactivity which requires that initial click before receiving focus.

If you've got a pause/play/volume interface within your video (as with 
FLV skins) then someone in a new Microsoft system will see a "Please 
click" message during mouseover, and then they'll be able to shuttle the 
video. (I'm not sure what happens if you use house chrome for playback 
controls, a la QuickTime, Real, or WMP... suspect it's the same.)

Summary: Should display fine regardless, but it's interactivity with the 
video which is at the center of the dispute.

I've seen lots of people hacking together their preferred solutions over 
the past month, but the best set of general links and recommendations 
I've seen is still at the Adobe Active Content Center:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/

jd





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Re: [videoblogging] Eolas

2006-04-06 Thread Devlon
btw, the next version of the Wordpress plugin for Josh's EmbedTheVideo
will have the fix in it as well

http://loadedpun.com/2006/03/31/embedthevideo-wordpress-plugin.html

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>  On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0200, Stan Hirson,  Sarah Jones
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>  > Should we be concerned about Microsoft's making changes to IE to conform
>  > to the Eolas decision?
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>  Depends on how you embed your content. vPIP is one good solution in many
>  cases:  http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place >
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>  > I'm surprised that there has been no discussion in this group.
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Re: [videoblogging] Eolas

2006-04-06 Thread Markus Sandy






it was discussed about a week ago

you must have missed it


Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote:

  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Eolas

2006-04-06 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux



Hello,From what I understand of it, yes, this is something we have to be concerned over if you are using in-page players.  (If you don't use in-page players, then no, this is NOT something you have to be concerned over.)
Basically, the  and  tags aren't going to works as they used to work.I think what is going to happen now, in IE's case, is that if you have them, a window will pop up and ask you if you want to run/play them.
If you just link to movie files (with the  or  elements) then you should be fine.See yaOn 4/6/06, Stan Hirson,  Sarah Jones
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Should we be concerned about Microsoft's making changes to IE to conform to the Eolas decision? As I understand it -- what little I do -- there may have to be changes in the embed codes for plugins and that will affect Quicktime and Flash movies in order to force a user action.
Should we be getting ready for something? I'm surprised that there has been no discussion in this group.Stan Hirson
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Re: [videoblogging] Eolas

2006-04-06 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0200, Stan Hirson,  Sarah Jones  
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> Should we be concerned about Microsoft's making changes to IE to conform
> to the Eolas decision?

Depends on how you embed your content. vPIP is one good solution in many  
cases: http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place >

> I'm surprised that there has been no discussion in this group.

Search back. There has been. :o)

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[videoblogging] Eolas

2006-04-06 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones



Should we be concerned about Microsoft's making changes to IE to conform to the Eolas decision? As I understand it -- what little I do -- there may have to be changes in the embed codes for plugins and that will affect Quicktime and Flash movies in order to force a user action.Should we be getting ready for something? I'm surprised that there has been no discussion in this group.Stan Hirsonhttp://hestablog.com


  




  
  
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