Re: [videoblogging] Flash player with h264 has been out since 3rd december

2007-12-18 Thread Patrick Cook
Hi everyone:

On Dec 18, 2007 1:47 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> For those of us mac folks not skilled in the ways of the geek or
>  posessing of the cash needed for flash itself, we have to wait for
>  some sort of mpeg streamclip/ffmpegx/compressor means of exploring
>  this new frontier, unless there's some other method I don't know
>  about.

Yeah like a GUI or ActiveX control of some kind.

>  VP6 would have to be mightily improved if it were to look good at full
>  screen for anything with a lot of details moving around quickly.

Just before I entered the world of videoblogging, I was amongst those
dabbling with using Winamp's Nullsoft Streaming Video format to stream
video with.  Never could quite get a handle on it and even then,
without hosting (And there's VERY little of it that supports NSV in
addition to SHOUTcast), my wee wittle TV station could only get one
(Maybe two) viewers at once.

And this was just with pre-recorded and converted videos @ 320 x 240
at around 10 fps.

On top of that, I could just about FORGET streaming my cam using NSV.
It would crash and burn usually within 30 minutes.  With sites like
Justin TV and BlogTV and other more "traditional" cam sites, I can put
my cam up - AND LEAVE IT UP - For DAYS at a time if I really wanted
to.  Maybe when I *FINALLY* upgrade this six year old boatanchor of a
PC I've got *Dreamfully sighing*

>  I'm going all HD for 2008, so I am paying attention to fullscreen
>  developments. But since things are only just now the point where I can
>  offer just h.264 quicktime and most everyone can see it, I'm not
>  rushing into anything.

I'm gonna go HD, but in Windows Media format instead.  I'll do this
simply by uploading the source video generated by Windows Movie Maker
(Now that I've FINALLY got it fixed - Yay! :D) as I encode at 768K wth
a screen resolution @ 640 x 480.  In addition to that, I'm uploading
the Quicktime MP4 that I've been linking to for like the longest time
now as I usually do and just simply put some sort of link to the
Windows Media HD version.

If that don't work, I'll convert the WMM-generated video to DiVx AVI
and upload that instead. :D

Cheers :D

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Re: [videoblogging] Flash player with h264 has been out since 3rd december

2007-12-18 Thread Brook Hinton
For those of us mac folks not skilled in the ways of the geek or
posessing of the cash needed for flash itself, we have to wait for
some sort of mpeg streamclip/ffmpegx/compressor means of exploring
this new frontier, unless there's some other method I don't know
about.

VP6 would have to be mightily improved if it were to look good at full
screen for anything with a lot of details moving around quickly.

I'm going all HD for 2008, so I am paying attention to fullscreen
developments. But since things are only just now the point where I can
offer just h.264 quicktime and most everyone can see it, I'm not
rushing into anything.

Brook



On 12/18/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Just noticed that the non-beta h264 version of the flash player came out
> earlier this
>  month, and I hadnt even noticed. .


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[videoblogging] Flash player with h264 has been out since 3rd december

2007-12-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Just noticed that the non-beta h264 version of the flash player came out 
earlier this 
month, and I hadnt even noticed. Did this get any fanfare yet? Anyway its got 
various other 
fixes and improvements, including to the VP6 codec, so its possible that for 
fullscreen HD 
the VP6 might be advantageous compared to h264 under some scenario's.

I would hope that some of the performance improvements will show up for 
existing flash 
players & video content, eg less CPU use, but testing a while ago on the beta 
suggests that 
there will be much to be gained in terms of fullscreen performance, if people 
rewrite their 
flash player code slightly to take advantage of things like hardware-assisted 
fullscreen.

I guess most video sites will wait till more people have installed the new 
flash player, 
which is fair enough, but I cant wait for this new era.

Any vloggers trying the mp4 capabilities of the new flash yet? If you aready 
offer a mp4 
version of your video, it could be a relative doddle, and although its probably 
too early to 
get rid of your flv versions just yet, you could always offer the mp4 embedded 
through 
flash option as well.

Im sure I will talk about this topic some more very soon, with some iffy 
examples. 

Cheers

Steve Elbows