[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
I just checked, and I've gotten 58,923 views on one video I did that was featured on YouTube. But did it lead to more subscribers to my vlog? 4. Yes, four. And the video even contained the web address, so, yeah, I share your frustration. Perhaps it was the venue. Perhaps the views were simply "drive-by views" because it was featured. And as quickly as the views escalated while being featured, they vaporized as soon as it left the home page. In retrospect, I could have done a better job of making the video seem more like it was part of a series, rather than a unisode. That might have helped people discover more of my stuff. Carter http://crowdabout.us/baby --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship "fact". > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump in > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was featured on > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that video did > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views which > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed that > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot of views > on my other videos. > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured all the > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > Heath > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com >
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
I've had three experiences with "featuredness" all different with differnet results. The first was a Digg.com article I submitted on an article that had my vidcast listed in it. HUGE spike in downloads that completely dissapeared in two weeks or so. Might have gained 50 or so new subscribers from it, but nothing compared to the spike. The second "feature" was well over a year ago when I was put under the Featured Comedy podcast section on itunes. It's a drill down feature, but it was permenent as I've remained there for over a year. It gave me more exposure and has (as far as I can tell) added a very slow upward subscriber growth. The most recent is a couple weeks ago I was featured under the front page Comedy Featured Video podcast section. There has been a noticable increase in subscribers over the past 2 weeks, but nothing like what you would think. I can certainly see a upward trend in my subscriber graphs. So per my experiences it correlates with Heath. Long term feature (even a buried one) = growth. One time feature might give you a spike of traffic, but they don't stick around as subscribers and they hardly ever spill over to your archives. Rev. Chumley http://www.cultofuhf.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship "fact". > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump in > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was featured on > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that video did > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views which > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed that > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot of views > on my other videos. > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured all the > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > Heath > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com >
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > Heath > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com Yeah over the year the Ninja has been featured in several places. No one feature (with the exception of the original iTunes, thanks Scott and Pete) has really made a huge difference. I view them as adding momentum. Just as any one video in your podcast doesn't define your body of work, one feature does not create your entire audience. You have to keep producing vids and keep getting featured in different places. -Kent, askaninja.com
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
I've had stuff featured on a bunch of video sites, and the result varies from site to site. I've had at least three videos featured on Yahoo Video and it's made minimal difference to my other videos - but then, I don't think that Yahoo video browsers are as engaged as YouTube users are. Despite the notion that a lot of people are just randomly bouncing from video to video on YouTube, the people who subscribe on YouTube are sticking around for a while, if not indefinately. But certainly, people on YouTube are somewhat spoiled for choice and I'm sure there's a reasonable churn in viewership - if I'm lucky, I'm maybe gaining enough subscribers to replace the ones who've got bored with my shtick by now... I think an interesting question is when doing "serial content" is whether people forget you quickly when you're gone, or whether taking a break once in a while makes people excited for your return? At least TV shows get time off to regroup. Cheers Mark Day http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/markday www.myspace.com/markday [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Agreed with Kent: any feature is a long tail value-add for eventual exposure, but by and large, your audience will tend to flatline at its current base until another BIG feature comes along -- and even then, it's only a minimal bump. The more inroads people have to finding your videos, the better, but each of those roads is only trod by a few people each day. Don't plan for sudden stardom; be in it for the long haul. Justin Kownacki, STBD Guru http://www.somethingtobedesired.com PS If our experience is any indication, exposure in traditional media means nothing for your web metrics, but a random blog post can result in a 'splosion.
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Wow - great discussion here, and very relevant to a lot of questions we have been asked here at Mefeedia. Some observations that we have seen: 1) Views are interesting, but an audience is a LOT more interesting - particularly if you want to monetize. Advertisers like predictability. 2) A recommendation from a friend (or trusted source / blog) is a lot more valuable in terms of gaining an audience than being featured or being found in a search. 3) Producing great content, repeatedly, is key - not suprising here. Building on these three points (particularly #2) - what do you think about "featured personalities" on a site like Mefeedia - like a "get to know your videoblogger" - very interactive and engaging. Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-927-7841 (cell) Y: fsinton Skype: fsinton http://www.mefeedia.com - Find, Watch, and Share great videoblogs and podcasts. Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Kownacki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed with Kent: any feature is a long tail value-add for eventual > exposure, but by and large, your audience will tend to flatline at its > current base until another BIG feature comes along -- and even then, > it's only a minimal bump. > > The more inroads people have to finding your videos, the better, but > each of those roads is only trod by a few people each day. Don't plan > for sudden stardom; be in it for the long haul. > > Justin Kownacki, STBD Guru > http://www.somethingtobedesired.com > > PS If our experience is any indication, exposure in traditional media > means nothing for your web metrics, but a random blog post can result > in a 'splosion. >
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Frank @ Mefeedia mentions an interesting tactic, and one I've been a proponent of for awhile: a "Meet the Videoblogger"-esque behind-the-scenes culture that promotes the culture of videobloggers. I'd actually like to see the idea taken a bit further toward a "star support" culture -- Veoh's Viral is a good comparison here. In a perfect world, think "The Tonight Show" (or the late night show of your choice), in which content creators are invited on as guests, with a central host and a few roving reporters. Kind of like a "real" version of The Clip Show, with the "real" Jim Kirks as the host... or me... ;) Is that something Mefeedia can make happen? Oh, and yes, creating great content is always the key to retaining a healthy audience.
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship "fact". > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump in > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was featured on > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that video did > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views which > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed that > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot of views > on my other videos. > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured all the > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > Heath > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com The reason it doesn't translate is that there's nothing to translate. "Featuring" puts a video in front of someone's face. The way the culture works, if you put it in front of their face, they might click it. That doesn't mean they know or care anything about what they're clicking on. They just want to see what's interesting, OR they like looking at whatever's "featured". It's not the same thing as saying to a crowd of people "Hey! I have a show about XYZ! Would you all like to watch it?" and they say "yes" and you give them the URL, and they're actually invested in the topic or your character or whatever the draw of the video is. All they want to see is what they want to see right now. The "fame" part comes from the being selected, not from how many people click on it. It's similar to the reason why paparazzi shows stay on the air indefinitely. There's a large group of people that want to know what's popular right now. They want to know who got drunk at the party and whose clothes fell off. They want to know who cut their hair and who's coming out of rehab today. Once they get their fix, it's time for the next fix. This is why advertisers should be careful about attempting to estimate popularity and/or ability to draw an audience from stats generated from things like being featured and piggybacking on highly-viewed videos with "video responses". Someone might get 300,000 hits on their video, but that's only because it was a video response to a clip that got 2,000,000 hits. It indicates NOTHING about their ability to draw, maintain and grow an audience, and as you point out, it doesn't even mean that people will check out the rest of their series after landing on their featured video. -- Bill C. http://TheLab.ReelSolid.TV
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Hi Justin, I like your thinking - a whole community around a "show". This is something that we will look into. I think a good step 1 would be a "meet the videoblogger"? We could probably allow for each videoblogger to include their Twitter "widget" and fun things like that. The key, of course, would be to enhance the interaction between viewers and videobloggers, and to help to build your audience. Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mefeedia.com - Find, watch, and share great videoblogs and podcasts. Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Kownacki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frank @ Mefeedia mentions an interesting tactic, and one I've been a > proponent of for awhile: a "Meet the Videoblogger"-esque > behind-the-scenes culture that promotes the culture of videobloggers. > > I'd actually like to see the idea taken a bit further toward a "star > support" culture -- Veoh's Viral is a good comparison here. In a > perfect world, think "The Tonight Show" (or the late night show of > your choice), in which content creators are invited on as guests, with > a central host and a few roving reporters. > > Kind of like a "real" version of The Clip Show, with the "real" Jim > Kirks as the host... or me... ;) > > Is that something Mefeedia can make happen? > > Oh, and yes, creating great content is always the key to retaining a > healthy audience. >
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Good luck with that! :D Are they featuring just one of your videos, or are they planning to rotate them? That might make a difference as far as which of your videos collect hits. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi I may be able to give you some additional feedback after tomorrow. > Veoh.com is featuring my One Minute Motivator series of vids on their site > tomorrow. These are short "success/motivation" vids of less that 2 min and > in the vids is a listing of my website to go for more info. Now less than > 10% of the general population is into "success/motivation", so I expect that > only a small percent of the people seeing one of the vids will view the > other 7 One Minute Motivators currently listed there, but we will see. Also > it is my guess that the bulk of the people visiting video websites are young > men, and they tend not to be into "success/motivation". So while I am > thrilled veoh.com is featuring the One Minute Motivator, I can't help > wondering why they picked it given what I think is their viewership. > Anyway, once I get some sense of the numbers of views, and then website > visits and sign ups for my free email version of the One Minute Motivator, I > will come back to the group and share my numbers. Thanks, Ed. > > On 3/28/07, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , > > "Heath" wrote: > > > > > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > > > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship "fact". > > > > > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump in > > > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was featured on > > > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that video did > > > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views which > > > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed that > > > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot of views > > > on my other videos. > > > > > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured all the > > > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > > > > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > > > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > > > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > > > > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > > > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > > > > > Heath > > > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > > > The reason it doesn't translate is that there's nothing to translate. > > > > "Featuring" puts a video in front of someone's face. The way the > > culture works, if you put it in front of their face, they might click > > it. That doesn't mean they know or care anything about what they're > > clicking on. They just want to see what's interesting, OR they like > > looking at whatever's "featured". > > > > It's not the same thing as saying to a crowd of people "Hey! I have a > > show about XYZ! Would you all like to watch it?" and they say "yes" > > and you give them the URL, and they're actually invested in the topic > > or your character or whatever the draw of the video is. All they want > > to see is what they want to see right now. The "fame" part comes from > > the being selected, not from how many people click on it. > > > > It's similar to the reason why paparazzi shows stay on the air > > indefinitely. There's a large group of people that want to know > > what's popular right now. They want to know who got drunk at the > > party and whose clothes fell off. They want to know who cut their > > hair and who's coming out of rehab today. Once they get their fix, > > it's time for the next fix. > > > > This is why advertisers should be careful about attempting to estimate > > popularity and/or ability to draw an audience from stats generated > > from things like being featured and piggybacking on highly-viewed > > videos with "video responses". Someone might get 300,000 hits on > > their video, but that's only because it was a video response to a clip > > that got 2,000,000 hits. It indicates NOTHING about their ability to > > draw, maintain and grow an audience, and as you point out, it doesn't > > even mean that people will check out the rest of their series after > > landing on their featured video. > > > > -- > > Bill C. > > http://TheLab.ReelSolid.TV > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Being featured on Veoh may not be as potent as it used to be. Whenever I sign into Veoh, the "featured videos" that play for me are based on my recent viewing history and coments. This means that I have mostly Japanese Pop videos which consumes most of my viewing time. YouTube is very vacuous. One techie told me a couple weeks ago that he could set a program in his computer to click on his video every few seconds. He said this would put him up on the "most viewed" YouTube page but he'd only be there for a few minutes. YouTube would check his "hits" and see they all came from his program. Beyond that, reading comments on YouTube and checking out the profile of the "members" posting them reveals that 90% (or more) have 0 videos that they themselves have posted. Add to this percentage all those who post clips from commercial shows and you will find that YouTube's audience are overwhelmingly "consumers". Most of them are vacuous "airheads" which is verifiable by the literacy and intelligence of their comments which frequently are simple statements like "Cool!" and/or "I like this." etc. That is why I prefer Veoh & Blip. At least most of the viewers there are way above the YouTube crowd. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker www.RandyWickerReporting.blogspot.com Hoboken, NJ (One mile from the center of the known world!) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good luck with that! :D > > Are they featuring just one of your videos, or are they planning to > rotate them? That might make a difference as far as which of your > videos collect hits. > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Smith" wrote: > > > > Hi I may be able to give you some additional feedback after tomorrow. > > Veoh.com is featuring my One Minute Motivator series of vids on > their site > > tomorrow. These are short "success/motivation" vids of less that 2 > min and > > in the vids is a listing of my website to go for more info. Now > less than > > 10% of the general population is into "success/motivation", so I > expect that > > only a small percent of the people seeing one of the vids will view the > > other 7 One Minute Motivators currently listed there, but we will > see. Also > > it is my guess that the bulk of the people visiting video websites > are young > > men, and they tend not to be into "success/motivation". So while I am > > thrilled veoh.com is featuring the One Minute Motivator, I can't help > > wondering why they picked it given what I think is their viewership. > > Anyway, once I get some sense of the numbers of views, and then website > > visits and sign ups for my free email version of the One Minute > Motivator, I > > will come back to the group and share my numbers. Thanks, Ed. > > > > On 3/28/07, Bill Cammack wrote: > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > , > > > "Heath" wrote: > > > > > > > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > > > > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship > "fact". > > > > > > > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump in > > > > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was featured on > > > > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that video did > > > > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views which > > > > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed that > > > > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot of views > > > > on my other videos. > > > > > > > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured all the > > > > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > > > > > > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > > > > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > > > > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > > > > > > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > > > > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > > > > > > > Heath > > > > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > > > > > The reason it doesn't translate is that there's nothing to translate. > > > > > > "Featuring" puts a video in front of someone's face. The way the > > > culture works, if you put it in front of their face, they might click > > > it. That doesn't mean they know or care anything about what they're > > > clicking on. They just want to see what's interesting, OR they like > > > looking at whatever's "featured". > > > > > > It's not the same thing as saying to a crowd of people "Hey! I have a > > > show about XYZ! Would you all like to watch it?" and they say "yes" > > > and you give them the URL, and they're actually invested in the topic > > > or your character or whatever the draw of the video is. All they want > > > to see is what they want to see right now. The "fame" part comes from > > > the being selected, not from how
Re: [videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Yeah. Building a vlaudience is like refinishing an old table. Strip off all the layers until you find the good stuff, then layer by layer, add, take off, add, sand down, until you've made something beautiful. Layers? 1) Content 2) Comments (yours on others' works) 3) Comments (others' on yours) 4) Community - add something to a community 5) Continuity - stick with it 6) Quote - play with others' works - link-love 7) People - face time with people 8) Press I mostly think of this as a vortex that is small at the bottom and grows larger as you move through it in time. Jan On 3/28/07, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow - great discussion here, and very relevant to a lot of questions > we have been asked here at Mefeedia. Some observations that we have > seen: > > 1) Views are interesting, but an audience is a LOT more interesting - > particularly if you want to monetize. Advertisers like > predictability. > > 2) A recommendation from a friend (or trusted source / blog) is a > lot more valuable in terms of gaining an audience than being > featured or being found in a search. > > 3) Producing great content, repeatedly, is key - not suprising here. > > Building on these three points (particularly #2) - what do you think > about "featured personalities" on a site like Mefeedia - like a "get > to know your videoblogger" - very interactive > and engaging. > > Thanks, > -Frank > > Frank Sinton > CEO, Mefeedia > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 310-927-7841 (cell) > Y: fsinton > Skype: fsinton > > http://www.mefeedia.com - Find, Watch, and Share great videoblogs > and podcasts. > Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Kownacki" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Agreed with Kent: any feature is a long tail value-add for eventual > > exposure, but by and large, your audience will tend to flatline at > its > > current base until another BIG feature comes along -- and even > then, > > it's only a minimal bump. > > > > The more inroads people have to finding your videos, the better, > but > > each of those roads is only trod by a few people each day. Don't > plan > > for sudden stardom; be in it for the long haul. > > > > Justin Kownacki, STBD Guru > > http://www.somethingtobedesired.com > > > > PS If our experience is any indication, exposure in traditional > media > > means nothing for your web metrics, but a random blog post can > result > > in a 'splosion. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Hi I may be able to give you some additional feedback after tomorrow. Veoh.com is featuring my One Minute Motivator series of vids on their site tomorrow. These are short "success/motivation" vids of less that 2 min and in the vids is a listing of my website to go for more info. Now less than 10% of the general population is into "success/motivation", so I expect that only a small percent of the people seeing one of the vids will view the other 7 One Minute Motivators currently listed there, but we will see. Also it is my guess that the bulk of the people visiting video websites are young men, and they tend not to be into "success/motivation". So while I am thrilled veoh.com is featuring the One Minute Motivator, I can't help wondering why they picked it given what I think is their viewership. Anyway, once I get some sense of the numbers of views, and then website visits and sign ups for my free email version of the One Minute Motivator, I will come back to the group and share my numbers. Thanks, Ed. On 3/28/07, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , > "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship "fact". > > > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump in > > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was featured on > > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that video did > > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views which > > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed that > > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot of views > > on my other videos. > > > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured all the > > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > > > Heath > > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > The reason it doesn't translate is that there's nothing to translate. > > "Featuring" puts a video in front of someone's face. The way the > culture works, if you put it in front of their face, they might click > it. That doesn't mean they know or care anything about what they're > clicking on. They just want to see what's interesting, OR they like > looking at whatever's "featured". > > It's not the same thing as saying to a crowd of people "Hey! I have a > show about XYZ! Would you all like to watch it?" and they say "yes" > and you give them the URL, and they're actually invested in the topic > or your character or whatever the draw of the video is. All they want > to see is what they want to see right now. The "fame" part comes from > the being selected, not from how many people click on it. > > It's similar to the reason why paparazzi shows stay on the air > indefinitely. There's a large group of people that want to know > what's popular right now. They want to know who got drunk at the > party and whose clothes fell off. They want to know who cut their > hair and who's coming out of rehab today. Once they get their fix, > it's time for the next fix. > > This is why advertisers should be careful about attempting to estimate > popularity and/or ability to draw an audience from stats generated > from things like being featured and piggybacking on highly-viewed > videos with "video responses". Someone might get 300,000 hits on > their video, but that's only because it was a video response to a clip > that got 2,000,000 hits. It indicates NOTHING about their ability to > draw, maintain and grow an audience, and as you point out, it doesn't > even mean that people will check out the rest of their series after > landing on their featured video. > > -- > Bill C. > http://TheLab.ReelSolid.TV > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
right. a more polished approach akin to some traditional talk shows would be nice to see. i thought thats what http://latenitemash.com was going to be or maybe it is (I havent followed it). JD Lasica also has a good project that is somewhat relevant- http://www.realpeoplenetwork.com/ sull On 28 Mar 2007 06:17:35 -0700, Justin Kownacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frank @ Mefeedia mentions an interesting tactic, and one I've been a > proponent of for awhile: a "Meet the Videoblogger"-esque > behind-the-scenes culture that promotes the culture of videobloggers. > > I'd actually like to see the idea taken a bit further toward a "star > support" culture -- Veoh's Viral is a good comparison here. In a > perfect world, think "The Tonight Show" (or the late night show of > your choice), in which content creators are invited on as guests, with > a central host and a few roving reporters. > > Kind of like a "real" version of The Clip Show, with the "real" Jim > Kirks as the host... or me... ;) > > Is that something Mefeedia can make happen? > > Oh, and yes, creating great content is always the key to retaining a > healthy audience. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
Good question, but I can't answer it, they were not clear on how they were going to do it, I was dealing with several different people in the chain of getting it done, and wasn't able to nail that down. I think I will be OK no matter how they do it, if a person is intersted, as I have them titled One Minute Motivator #1, #2, etc, so I am assuming someone seeing that it is #1, they will search for #2 or click to see what else I have posted, etc. Thanks, Ed. On 3/28/07, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good luck with that! :D > > Are they featuring just one of your videos, or are they planning to > rotate them? That might make a difference as far as which of your > videos collect hits. > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , > "Ed Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi I may be able to give you some additional feedback after tomorrow. > > Veoh.com is featuring my One Minute Motivator series of vids on > their site > > tomorrow. These are short "success/motivation" vids of less that 2 > min and > > in the vids is a listing of my website to go for more info. Now > less than > > 10% of the general population is into "success/motivation", so I > expect that > > only a small percent of the people seeing one of the vids will view the > > other 7 One Minute Motivators currently listed there, but we will > see. Also > > it is my guess that the bulk of the people visiting video websites > are young > > men, and they tend not to be into "success/motivation". So while I am > > thrilled veoh.com is featuring the One Minute Motivator, I can't help > > wondering why they picked it given what I think is their viewership. > > Anyway, once I get some sense of the numbers of views, and then website > > visits and sign ups for my free email version of the One Minute > Motivator, I > > will come back to the group and share my numbers. Thanks, Ed. > > > > On 3/28/07, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > , > > > "Heath" wrote: > > > > > > > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > > > > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship > "fact". > > > > > > > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump in > > > > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was featured on > > > > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that video did > > > > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views which > > > > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed that > > > > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot of views > > > > on my other videos. > > > > > > > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured all the > > > > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > > > > > > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why is it > > > > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see something I > > > > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > > > > > > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it take to > > > > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to know! > > > > > > > > Heath > > > > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > > > > > The reason it doesn't translate is that there's nothing to translate. > > > > > > "Featuring" puts a video in front of someone's face. The way the > > > culture works, if you put it in front of their face, they might click > > > it. That doesn't mean they know or care anything about what they're > > > clicking on. They just want to see what's interesting, OR they like > > > looking at whatever's "featured". > > > > > > It's not the same thing as saying to a crowd of people "Hey! I have a > > > show about XYZ! Would you all like to watch it?" and they say "yes" > > > and you give them the URL, and they're actually invested in the topic > > > or your character or whatever the draw of the video is. All they want > > > to see is what they want to see right now. The "fame" part comes from > > > the being selected, not from how many people click on it. > > > > > > It's similar to the reason why paparazzi shows stay on the air > > > indefinitely. There's a large group of people that want to know > > > what's popular right now. They want to know who got drunk at the > > > party and whose clothes fell off. They want to know who cut their > > > hair and who's coming out of rehab today. Once they get their fix, > > > it's time for the next fix. > > > > > > This is why advertisers should be careful about attempting to estimate > > > popularity and/or ability to draw an audience from stats generated > > > from things like being featured and piggybacking on highly-viewed > > > videos with "video responses". Someone might get 300,000 hits on > > > their video, but that's only because it was a video response to a clip > > > that got 2,000,000 hits. It indicates NOTHING about their ability to > > > draw, maintain and grow an audience,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: A question about viewership habits....
One thing stuck me about your comment, Randolfe A comment of, "Cool" is not necessarily from an airhead. Sometimes it's simply a function of time. Would you prefer someone who liked your work leave no comment than, "Cool"? Sometimes, "Cool" is all I have to give, but that doesn't make it nuthin'. Jan On 3/28/07, humancloner1997 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Being featured on Veoh may not be as potent as it used to be. > Whenever I sign into Veoh, the "featured videos" that play for me are > based on my recent viewing history and coments. > > This means that I have mostly Japanese Pop videos which consumes most > of my viewing time. > > YouTube is very vacuous. One techie told me a couple weeks ago that > he could set a program in his computer to click on his video every > few seconds. > > He said this would put him up on the "most viewed" YouTube page but > he'd only be there for a few minutes. YouTube would check his "hits" > and see they all came from his program. > > Beyond that, reading comments on YouTube and checking out the profile > of the "members" posting them reveals that 90% (or more) have 0 > videos that they themselves have posted. > > Add to this percentage all those who post clips from commercial shows > and you will find that YouTube's audience are > overwhelmingly "consumers". Most of them are vacuous "airheads" > which is verifiable by the literacy and intelligence of their > comments which frequently are simple statements like "Cool!" > and/or "I like this." etc. > > That is why I prefer Veoh & Blip. At least most of the viewers there > are way above the YouTube crowd. > > Randolfe (Randy) Wicker > www.RandyWickerReporting.blogspot.com > Hoboken, NJ (One mile from the center of the known world!) > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Good luck with that! :D > > > > Are they featuring just one of your videos, or are they planning to > > rotate them? That might make a difference as far as which of your > > videos collect hits. > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Smith" wrote: > > > > > > Hi I may be able to give you some additional feedback after > tomorrow. > > > Veoh.com is featuring my One Minute Motivator series of vids on > > their site > > > tomorrow. These are short "success/motivation" vids of less that > 2 > > min and > > > in the vids is a listing of my website to go for more info. Now > > less than > > > 10% of the general population is into "success/motivation", so I > > expect that > > > only a small percent of the people seeing one of the vids will > view the > > > other 7 One Minute Motivators currently listed there, but we will > > see. Also > > > it is my guess that the bulk of the people visiting video websites > > are young > > > men, and they tend not to be into "success/motivation". So while > I am > > > thrilled veoh.com is featuring the One Minute Motivator, I can't > help > > > wondering why they picked it given what I think is their > viewership. > > > Anyway, once I get some sense of the numbers of views, and then > website > > > visits and sign ups for my free email version of the One Minute > > Motivator, I > > > will come back to the group and share my numbers. Thanks, Ed. > > > > > > On 3/28/07, Bill Cammack wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > , > > > > "Heath" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We've discussed this a bit but I had a very personal experiece > > > > > recently that proved (at least to me) an interesting viewship > > "fact". > > > > > > > > > > Being "featured" somewhere does not mean you will gain a jump > in > > > > > views to your other videos. Recently one of my posts was > featured on > > > > > the Yahoo video page, I was one there for over a day, that > video did > > > > > great numbers by far my most popular video, over 8,000 views > which > > > > > for me...is HUGE. Anyway, I was really pumped but I noticed > that > > > > > while I did gain some subscribers I didn't gain a whole lot > of views > > > > > on my other videos. > > > > > > > > > > Being featured was great but unless you are being featured > all the > > > > > time, it doens't appear to mean a thing really. > > > > > > > > > > So I am curious, what has been other's experience's? And why > is it > > > > > that it never seems to translate? I mean I know if I see > something I > > > > > like I check out other stuff. Am I alone in that? > > > > > > > > > > Is my 15 minutes of fame already up? How many licks does it > take to > > > > > get to the center of a tootise roll tootise pop? I need to > know! > > > > > > > > > > Heath > > > > > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > The reason it doesn't translate is that there's nothing to > translate. > > > > > > > > "Featuring" puts a video in front of someone's face. The way the > > > > culture works, if you put it in front of their face, they might > click > > > > it. That doesn't mean they know or care anything ab
