It's really Paul's prerogative to do with his videos what he wants. No one can replace his choice.
-- Enric -======- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Sion Touhig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul mate, I'm not having a pop at you in the slightest. Your video > genuinely made me chuckle so good for you, you've obviously got lots of > great ideas. > > But its the aggregators of content who just sit back and rub their hands as > all this saleable creativity comes flowing in. I'm absolutely sure you have > a great time doing the video stuff for a hobby, but for the people who are > sitting on the content pile its not a hobby in the slightest - its a > business, and a big business at that. > > Unfortunately if your bin idea does become a huge moneyspinner, not only do > you not get no payment, you won't actually get any credit for it at all - > because the BBC terms also take away your Moral Rights, which is the right > to be recognised as the creator of the work. > > So if the bin idea gets sold to Nick Park and wins an Oscar, the credit will > say 'Based on an idea by BBC Films'. Just imagine if Nick Park had given his > ideas away when he was making silly clay models in his garage...and then > watched some other bastard lifting the Oscar. > > Gutted. > > If you have any ambitions to doing it for a living (and why not?), then I > sincerely hope that an industry exists in future which will provide you a > viable income. > > Under this business model, that doesn't look like its going to happen. > > My simple argument is this - why shouldn't you get paid for doing something > you love? I'm not talking big cash, but why should you have to spend 8 hours > per day doing some regular job, then devoting your spare time to the thing > you REALLY want to do? > > That's a definition of a hobby, and hobbies have their own reward which goes > beyond money - but to then have someone else making money from your > efforts...well, thats just wrong. > > People like Murdoch isn't being that smart because nothing is actually > changing. > > Take away all the whizz-bang technology and he's simply exploiting forces > which have existed since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Classic > supply and demand. When the supply of a commodity increases, its price > falls. > > In this case the price is zero, or even less - because unlike the Industrial > Revolution, when smart businessmen 'adapted' to change by using children to > repair cotton spinning machines (but at least paid them), we appear to be > happy to work for nothing. The profit is made by leveraging the IP to a mass > audience. > > As robert a/k/a r suggests, coming from a largely RM culture I am struggling > to understand how this whole new Web 2.0 economy works, in that like the > dot-com bust, it shows very little sign of bucking the reality that lies > behind it - which is the real economy - and the Murdochs of this world are > making sure that the new virtual economy retains similar exploitation > business models as many aspects of the real one...only worse. > > Because by handing over your creativity, you're PAYING to produce a > commodity, not getting a wage. You're not doing it for nothing - How much > does Final Cut cost? Your camera? Your computer? Broadband connection? > > Mark Getty, the CEO of Getty Images, now the Worlds largest holder of > photographic images, said "Intellectual Property is the oil of the 21st > Century". > > How right he was. He gets the corporate jet, we pay to work and pump out > that creativity like a gushing oil well. > > Genius. > > Apart from anything else, I thought the whole idea of this Brave New World > was to bypass the 'old media' like Murdoch and the BBC anyway, and simply > present your work to a potential audience of millions by simply hosting the > work on the Web. > > No rights rip-offs required. > > I think the way forward is to start collectively aggregating our own > content. Murdoch and the BBC aren't the only game in town on the web. > > > > > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:38:16 +0000 > > From: Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: RE: It's a time to Celebrate!!!!!! > > > >What a shame both you and Sion don't share my opinion, I have got one > >step further to realizing a dream, I really don't care about the > >licensing aspects of this, one of my early works, it is just the fact > >that I have got one of my amateur videos on the BBC website. Please > >be happy for me, I am not in it for the money, that side of things > >gives me a headache to be honest. I am all about creativity. I > >wouldn't be angered or disdainful if this video sparked someone's > >creativity around the world and Bin's became a new character or TV > >Sitcom, I would be elated, I would be over the moon, that I had given > >someone an idea. > > > >It goes with saying that if you post anything under the Creative > >Commons License anyway it is quite similar to the BBC license, don't > >we remix stuff that other people have shot before, same thing, yes? > > > >As far as putting my videos on line for profit is concerned, I would > >love for that to happen, but as a rank amateur and one of those > >people that does it on no budget most of the time and experiments > >with different sorts of film making techniques, I am not a pro as > >yet, I know this and just enjoy the hobby that I have. > > > >I do object to the use of any of my work by a certain Australian > >gentleman who owns most of the media in the world though, but hey, I > >make this for free and people watch it for free, so to me fairs fair. > > > >I didn't want to start a discussion on how unfair it is, no I just > >wanted to share my success with you all. > > > >Paul Knight > > > >On 4 Mar 2006, at 17:48, robert a/k/a r wrote: > > > > > Correct. Times have changed. > > > > > > In the stills world, peeps who would poke out their eyes before going > > > RF have the right to do so. However RM appears to be going the way of > > > other industries > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
