Re: [videoblogging] Re: Interesting USA Today article

2006-04-28 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux 



Hello,On 4/28/06, Stephanie Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4/28/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> And that is why "reality television" is not reality at all.  I> interviewed a couple of people from a Canadian reality programme
> (which I will not name in order not to expose them) but I found out> that the parts that I was most captivated by where the parts the> producer orchestrated to make it more interesting.Yeah-- reality TV is by its nature as orchestrated as anything else,
it's just that the producers don't actually hand you a line-for-linescript in advance.Maybe it should be called Improv-TV instead.  (Like Improv-Comdey)See ya
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Interesting USA Today article

2006-04-28 Thread Adam Quirk 



Sometimes they do.  A friend of mine in LA has been on several of these shitty "third wheel" or "blind date" type shows where they basically make fun of both the contestants.  Before filming, they handed him a script, told him about his background as a "karate master" and explained that he should be distressed because his girlfriend just died.
On 4/28/06, Stephanie Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 4/28/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And that is why "reality television" is not reality at all.  I
> interviewed a couple of people from a Canadian reality programme
> (which I will not name in order not to expose them) but I found out
> that the parts that I was most captivated by where the parts the
> producer orchestrated to make it more interesting.

Yeah-- reality TV is by its nature as orchestrated as anything else,
it's just that the producers don't actually hand you a line-for-line
script in advance.

--
Stephanie Bryant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Interesting USA Today article

2006-04-28 Thread Stephanie Bryant 



On 4/28/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And that is why "reality television" is not reality at all.  I
> interviewed a couple of people from a Canadian reality programme
> (which I will not name in order not to expose them) but I found out
> that the parts that I was most captivated by where the parts the
> producer orchestrated to make it more interesting.

Yeah-- reality TV is by its nature as orchestrated as anything else,
it's just that the producers don't actually hand you a line-for-line
script in advance.

--
Stephanie Bryant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.mortaine.com/blogs





  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Interesting USA Today article

2006-04-28 Thread Casey McKinnon 



And that is why "reality television" is not reality at all.  I
interviewed a couple of people from a Canadian reality programme
(which I will not name in order not to expose them) but I found out
that the parts that I was most captivated by where the parts the
producer orchestrated to make it more interesting.  It seems like
without these fabricated situations, the show would have been even
more mundane than watching the log channel...

Casey


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You should be doing that anyway if it's not a public place, event, or
> if the people present are identifiable.
> 
> There was a case in Seattle a few years ago (it settled recently), in
> which a freelance journalist reported and exposed his apartment
> building management's discriminatory practices. As a result, he was
> shunned and threatened with losing his apartment. The case went to the
> courts, where the judge decided that, because he didn't have a
> contract with an editor, he wasn't acting as a journalist. It was an
> absurd decision, obviously catering to the people with money
> (preserving the status quo, etc.), and probably also partially based
> on the fact that the journalist in question is kind of an annoying
> git, on a personal level. But nonetheless, that was the decision. The
> journalist appealed-- the last I heard, he won on his appeal, but it
> took 10 years and a complete shift in the idea of "journalism" in
> order to get there.
> 
> --Stephanie
> 
> On 4/28/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great article... Unfortunately, that probably means that we should all
> > start having people fill out forms to verify their consent of being on
> > our videoblogs (for those of us who make non-personal vlogs, under the
> > judge's definition of journalism).  Great... MORE work!
> 
> 
> --
> Stephanie Bryant
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:
> http://www.mortaine.com/blogs
>









  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Interesting USA Today article

2006-04-28 Thread Stephanie Bryant 



You should be doing that anyway if it's not a public place, event, or
if the people present are identifiable.

There was a case in Seattle a few years ago (it settled recently), in
which a freelance journalist reported and exposed his apartment
building management's discriminatory practices. As a result, he was
shunned and threatened with losing his apartment. The case went to the
courts, where the judge decided that, because he didn't have a
contract with an editor, he wasn't acting as a journalist. It was an
absurd decision, obviously catering to the people with money
(preserving the status quo, etc.), and probably also partially based
on the fact that the journalist in question is kind of an annoying
git, on a personal level. But nonetheless, that was the decision. The
journalist appealed-- the last I heard, he won on his appeal, but it
took 10 years and a complete shift in the idea of "journalism" in
order to get there.

--Stephanie

On 4/28/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great article... Unfortunately, that probably means that we should all
> start having people fill out forms to verify their consent of being on
> our videoblogs (for those of us who make non-personal vlogs, under the
> judge's definition of journalism).  Great... MORE work!


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[videoblogging] Re: Interesting USA Today article

2006-04-28 Thread Casey McKinnon 



Great article... Unfortunately, that probably means that we should all
start having people fill out forms to verify their consent of being on
our videoblogs (for those of us who make non-personal vlogs, under the
judge's definition of journalism).  Great... MORE work!

Casey


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I just read this USA Today article
>

speakfocusonwhatsjournalismnotwhosajournalist;_ylt=Ash8aJ6BTRiQFt209HKIA\
> aSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg->  and cosidering some of the
> dicussion that was generated by the article on Josh, I found it
> interesting.     
> 
>










  
  
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