Re: [videoblogging] Re: Matching music to video?

2005-11-22 Thread Joshua Seiden 




> >  Does anyone know of any book or internet resource that doesn'tjust give> > "free music" but which suggests certain music (free or otherwise)to convey
> > emotions like "sadness" or "tension" or even "joy", etc?> >  I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to find it.

One thing to keep in mind is that the way music works depends a lot on
the images on top of it. Somthing that's sad in one situation could be
funny in another. So any reference work that suggests some type of
absolute feeling delivered by a peice of music is likely to be of
limited value.

This idea of the context-dependent way we respond to music (and other
elements) is one of the things that really interests me, and I've been
playing with it on my vlog.

For example, in this post of mine, I took what could have been a fairly
saccharine set of images of me and my kids, and contrasted them with
some fairly gruff music. I think the contrast is what makes it work.
(At least, I think it works.) But it's not like everything contrasts:
the music set the tempo for the piece.

http://more3.blogspot.com/2005/11/tag-at-guggenheim.html

One of the things that makes music pleasurable is the way it plays with
your expectations--often by using contrast and contradiction. I talk
about that here:

http://more3.blogspot.com/2005/11/annotation-roll-um-easy.html

On the other hand, in this one there's no contrast, because I wanted to treat the subject without irony:



http://more3.blogspot.com/2005/11/for-vicky.html

JS
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Matching music to video?

2005-11-22 Thread Michael Sullivan 



i'm all about it.i actually just mentioned "synchronicty" in a previous post today.i once belonged to a community of 'synchers'.  we would come up with new recipes like the floyd/oz phenomena.fun stuff.  my best one was called "The Black Emperor's Dark City", a combination of the movie 'Dark City' and the band 'GodSpeed You Black Emperor'.. hell, let me find the page...
shit, the site changed now (this is 3 or 4 years ago)... google cache has it here:http://tinyurl.com/7p6t2i was on this initiative to promote "Synchronicity Art"... 
and built a few incarnations of media engines that would randomize music and video together.actually plan to make a new version soon ;-)sullOn 11/22/05, 
Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:This thread made me think of the Pink Floyd and Wizard of Oz
phenomenon... have any of you ever heard of it?http://www.everwonder.com/david/wizardofoz/Susanhttp://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ronen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> ..> usually one is looking for something more ...specific, both in terms of
> emotion and timing, than in a guide so simple -- music can carrymultiple> meanings depending on the footage.>> Most of my skill in this area (and I just listen to a lot of musicand use
> music from memory) came from spending a long time listening to moviescores,> watching films with only the score playing, and re-playing the samevideo> many (many) times with different music. You'll quickly see how different
> peices of music shape the video. (Also try moving the same peice ofmusic> around, creating different sync points.)>> I've been developing an extended education series on the subject to
put on> cinemalog , and I'll drop a line here when itbegins.>> Ronen>> (ps- some examples of background music I've used are on the site,
and so far> as creds I've also edited tons of film and ghostwritten the 'film music'> section of a standard university music text)>> Best of luck>> On 11/21/05, Randolfe Wicker <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > I have slowly come to realize that some of the really greatvloggers have> > a valuable knowledge of music that they incorporate in their vlogsto convey
> > and underscore an emotion.> >  Does anyone know of any book or internet resource that doesn'tjust give> > "free music" but which suggests certain music (free or otherwise)to convey
> > emotions like "sadness" or "tension" or even "joy", etc?> >  I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to find it.> >   Randolfe (Randy) Wicker> >  Videographer, Writer, Activist
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[videoblogging] Re: Matching music to video?

2005-11-22 Thread Erin Nealey 
Freeplay Music does exactly this, unfortunately for video
blogs/podcasts they are not free (I learned the hard way on this). I'm
assuming you're looking for stuff for your videoblog so this wouldn't
help you on that, but in case not, there are some instances where you
can use them (for free). Read over their terms of use carefully... it
can be confusing. Their name is definately misleading!

www.freeplaymusic.com

Erin Nealey
Mom's Brag Vlog
nealey.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I have slowly come to realize that some of the really great vloggers
have a valuable knowledge of music that they incorporate in their
vlogs to convey and underscore an emotion.
> 
> Does anyone know of any book or internet resource that doesn't just
give "free music" but which suggests certain music (free or otherwise)
to convey emotions like "sadness" or "tension" or even "joy", etc?
> 
> I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to find it.
> 
> 
> Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
> 
> Videographer, Writer, Activist
> Advisor: The Immortality Institute
> Hoboken, NJ
> http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
> 201-656-3280
>






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[videoblogging] Re: Matching music to video?

2005-11-22 Thread Susan 
This thread made me think of the Pink Floyd and Wizard of Oz
phenomenon... have any of you ever heard of it?

http://www.everwonder.com/david/wizardofoz/

Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ronen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ..
> usually one is looking for something more ...specific, both in terms of
> emotion and timing, than in a guide so simple -- music can carry
multiple
> meanings depending on the footage.
> 
> Most of my skill in this area (and I just listen to a lot of music
and use
> music from memory) came from spending a long time listening to movie
scores,
> watching films with only the score playing, and re-playing the same
video
> many (many) times with different music. You'll quickly see how different
> peices of music shape the video. (Also try moving the same peice of
music
> around, creating different sync points.)
> 
> I've been developing an extended education series on the subject to
put on
> cinemalog , and I'll drop a line here when it
begins.
> 
> Ronen
> 
> (ps- some examples of background music I've used are on the site,
and so far
> as creds I've also edited tons of film and ghostwritten the 'film music'
> section of a standard university music text)
> 
> Best of luck
> 
> On 11/21/05, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I have slowly come to realize that some of the really great
vloggers have
> > a valuable knowledge of music that they incorporate in their vlogs
to convey
> > and underscore an emotion.
> >  Does anyone know of any book or internet resource that doesn't
just give
> > "free music" but which suggests certain music (free or otherwise)
to convey
> > emotions like "sadness" or "tension" or even "joy", etc?
> >  I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to find it.
> >   Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
> >  Videographer, Writer, Activist
> > Advisor: The Immortality Institute
> > Hoboken, NJ
> > http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
> > 201-656-3280
> >
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