[videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
I wondered how the museum would feel about his vlogging in there. I guess it's a risk to break the policy of your employer, but I feel kinda sorry for Dalas' getting resigned for it. He's a dumbass. He didn't read the company policy manual, and he deserved to get fired. You appear to be shooting from the hip without knowing the details in this case. Such as - the videos in question have been online for 191 days and the video blogger was fired when he gave his two weeks notice. Do you think he was given the ax for his video of the elevator door opening or the medium, stationary shot of the window? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
You appear to be shooting from the hip without knowing the details in this case. Such as - the videos in question have been online for 191 days and the video blogger was fired when he gave his two weeks notice. Do you think he was given the ax for his video of the elevator door opening or the medium, stationary shot of the window? Who gives a shit. If the museum has a policy and an employee breaks it, they should definitely be fired. As a museum attendant, part of his job is to tell people not to use video cameras. He should know better. He deliberately set a public example completely counter to his duty at the museum. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This kind of reminds me of the assertion not so long ago that no one has _really_ been fired for blogging, despite all the blogosphere lamentations to the contrary. The _real_ reason for someone losing their job would usually be a violation of existing policy or simply a lack of common sense, not specifically the act of publishing online (but rather what was published). Still, I remember the ripples in the podcast universe when the first podcaster was canned for his show (he was harassing people in a church, if I recall correctly), so to some extent it's probably noteworthy that a videoblog played a part in this fellow's termination. Basically, if you mix your hobbies with your bread-and-butter day job, you can expect trouble. Ryan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com Comment: http://www.lightfantastic.org/pgp.txt iQA/AwUBQxXv88/o8udD/KcXEQIQoQCePfOJefsgZXL/2MtCwDEHVEHRh04AoPRF KV2bBsAuBwIp6ErXMjlcRQF7 =tQIB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A blog is a publication. Same as a newspaper. Exactly the same legalities apply. Not always true. Apple sues or shuts down bloggers who reveal rumors, but yet they do nothing when the Wall Street Journal breaks a story. Not sure the specifics, but there was a recent court decision that decided against an individual who claimed media rights. Anyways, here is the EFF's Legal Guide for Bloggers... http://www.eff.org/bloggers/lg/ -Matt -- http://www.leanbackvids.com/videoblog/ http://www.vlogmap.org/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
around the 31/8/05 LeanBackVids.com mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned that: Not always true. Apple sues or shuts down bloggers who reveal rumors, but yet they do nothing when the Wall Street Journal breaks a story. Not sure the specifics, but there was a recent court decision that decided against an individual who claimed media rights. this was a blogger claiming specific rights that only apply in US law regarding freedom of speech or press. Apple succeeded in their action *because* the blog was a publication. All the case demonstrated was that a) a blog is a publication b) but bloggers are *not* journalists so c) don't enjoy the same rights as journalists in the united states this does not affect the status of the blog as a publication :-) -- cheers Adrian Miles hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
I'll defend free speech expression til the cows come home but this was stupid. He worked in a museum. Museums tell people from the time the cross the door you *shall not* take pictures/video inside of the museum. It doesn't matter if was after hours, the videos were only of him or abstracted pieces of the door frame. He took a risk. The risk bit him in the bum-diddly. He will accept it and move on, I hope to better things. It is like the policy many companies have about using e-mail for personal use. So long as they want you they will turn a blind eye to your on the job narratives. You get on the hit list and your narritives will get you pinked slipped and out the door. Why? Violation of company policy. He may be the first to lose a job because of video blogging but how much comfort will that be when the rent is due? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dalas Verdugo posted (on Vimeo) re how/why he got resigned from his job for videoblogging. URL:http://www.vimeo.com/clip=6813 When seeing some of his posting in the past URL:http://www.vimeo.com/clip=146 I wondered how the museum would feel about his vlogging in there. I guess it's a risk to break the policy of your employer, but I feel kinda sorry for Dalas' getting resigned for it. r URL: http://r.24x7.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
Why? Violation of company policy. He may be the first to lose a job because of video blogging but how much comfort will that be when the rent is due? Is there any real proof that they asked him to leave because of his video blog. He indicates he put in his two week notice and they told him to go ahead and quit. For all we know he has a lousy work history. Maybe the museum sends everyone off without two weeks. It's all speculation and hearsay. Jake Ludington http://www.mediablab.com http://www.podcastingstarterkit.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogger gets resigned
Badda Boom!Jake, that's the response I was waiting to hear. He may just be using it as a means to further his art career. Heather Armstrong (Dooce) got and still gets a lot of publicity for being canned from her job for blogging. Maybe he is trying to use this as a way to try and eat some of that cake?By the way..."go me!"...first post to this group. :) David Howellhttp://www.taoofdavid.com On Aug 31, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Jake Ludington wrote:Why? Violation of company policy. He may be the first to lose a jobbecause of video blogging but how much comfort will that be when therent is due? Is there any real proof that they asked him to leave because of his videoblog. He indicates he put in his two week notice and they told him to goahead and quit. For all we know he has a lousy work history. Maybe themuseum sends everyone off without two weeks. It's all speculation andhearsay.Jake Ludingtonhttp://www.mediablab.comhttp://www.podcastingstarterkit.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
