[videoblogging] Re: What really traps new talent (and it's not the gatekeepers)
Bill Cammack's advice to become an editor reflects a truism about the arts in general. The technicians generally earn a living and/or prosper while the artists would-be stars starve. This was the biggest discovery I made while hustling Hollywood Blvd one summer in the late 1950s. The middle-aged men driving new cars, living in great apts, etc. were the lighting technicians, the camera opoerators, the prop managers, etc. Those who aspired to be writers, actors, singers, dancers or performers in general comprised a huge poverty class buried beneath the riches and glitter of the successful few in those crafts. I always advise people starting college with liberal arts majors to be sure to take courses in accounting, etc. because those skills are very important in life even in the arts. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 That's a benefit to being an editor... you ALWAYS get paid. :D If you think there are/were A LOT of reality tv shows on television, imagine how many PILOTS people made in order to pitch their shows to a production company! Whether their show is picked up or not, they still had to pay the editor to make the pilot. Same thing with music. If you think there are a lot of rappers (now that they let ANYBODY on the mic... :/ ), imagine how many people bought hours in the studio to put together a demo tape. It used to be really funny, knowing full well that some of the guys were absolute GARBAGE on the mic, and weren't going anywhere... but business is business, so the tapes/CDs got made. At least they had something to take back to the block and pull some chicks with by fronting like they're actually in the industry! :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Halcyon halcyon@ wrote: Totally agree! I think that 'quick and dirty video editor' is soon going to be the web designer of the Internet bubble days. EVERY business will need a video commercial/brochure soon -- in the same way every company needed a webpage in 99. Sharpen those imovie skills!!! -halcyon On 2/16/07, humancloner1997 rhwicker@ wrote: Yes, there are people out there who are really dumb. However, I know one enterprising professional filmmaker who shoots auditions for aspiring actresses for a fee---just like the old game of selling photographic portfolios to would-be models. Actually, there is nothing wrong with doing that. I'm surprised move vloggers haven't gotten the idea of just going door to door telling someone that for $200 they'll put up a five minute ad for their bakery (or other business) give them a copy on DVD. For those unable to do it for themselves, $200 would be a great investment if you had a location/hotel/lounge/retial shop with an interesting ambience. Ma, I found this fabulous 'Magic Shop' in NYC with powerful crystals. They said you could get an idea by watching this link on the Internet! I really 'have to have' the big quartz crystal in their window. It's only $395.00! You get the idea. Like that famous old Carvel Man (am I dating myself here?), everyone gets a kick out of seeing hearing themselves in the media--even if it is just on the Internet at YouTube. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Hoboken, NJ One mile West of the center of the world! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, leesarbarnes leesarbarnes@ wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, humancloner1997 rhwicker@ wrote: I couldn't agree more with Schlomo on this one. Vlogging removes the gatekeepers but traditional media tries to trap new talent. When you buy into them, you won't feature the really interesting, different and fabulous things in your own life because you have been brainwashed to think most popular is best. New talent is trapped, not by traditional media, but by their limited thinking. Case in point - I met an actress about a month ago at a photo shoot. I go into a studio once a year to get professional pictures done. I love the camera, but the whole of act of cheesing in front of one for hours on end is too rigid for my taste. So, I met this young woman who's an aspiring actress. And I use the word aspiring loosely as she's still trying to get her first gig. She was complaining that she couldn't find an agent to represent her and just couldn't get any breaks. Of course, my video podcasting hat goes on and I start telling her about the benefits to her career if she starts one. That if she could put together a show and broadcast it over the internet, she could amass a following. That people who show that they have a following are 10x more likely to get their break on TV (these are my
[videoblogging] Re: What really traps new talent (and it's not the gatekeepers)
Yes, there are people out there who are really dumb. However, I know one enterprising professional filmmaker who shoots auditions for aspiring actresses for a fee---just like the old game of selling photographic portfolios to would-be models. Actually, there is nothing wrong with doing that. I'm surprised move vloggers haven't gotten the idea of just going door to door telling someone that for $200 they'll put up a five minute ad for their bakery (or other business) give them a copy on DVD. For those unable to do it for themselves, $200 would be a great investment if you had a location/hotel/lounge/retial shop with an interesting ambience. Ma, I found this fabulous 'Magic Shop' in NYC with powerful crystals. They said you could get an idea by watching this link on the Internet! I really 'have to have' the big quartz crystal in their window. It's only $395.00! You get the idea. Like that famous old Carvel Man (am I dating myself here?), everyone gets a kick out of seeing hearing themselves in the media--even if it is just on the Internet at YouTube. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Hoboken, NJ One mile West of the center of the world! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, leesarbarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, humancloner1997 rhwicker@ wrote: I couldn't agree more with Schlomo on this one. Vlogging removes the gatekeepers but traditional media tries to trap new talent. When you buy into them, you won't feature the really interesting, different and fabulous things in your own life because you have been brainwashed to think most popular is best. New talent is trapped, not by traditional media, but by their limited thinking. Case in point - I met an actress about a month ago at a photo shoot. I go into a studio once a year to get professional pictures done. I love the camera, but the whole of act of cheesing in front of one for hours on end is too rigid for my taste. So, I met this young woman who's an aspiring actress. And I use the word aspiring loosely as she's still trying to get her first gig. She was complaining that she couldn't find an agent to represent her and just couldn't get any breaks. Of course, my video podcasting hat goes on and I start telling her about the benefits to her career if she starts one. That if she could put together a show and broadcast it over the internet, she could amass a following. That people who show that they have a following are 10x more likely to get their break on TV (these are my made-up stats, so don't quote me). I told her about Amanda and gave her a Canadian example, Amber MacArthur - both women who used podcasting to jump start their careers in mainstream media. This wanna-be aspiring actress couldn't wrap her mind around what I was saying. She was still asking me about casting agents. She thought I was her connection to Hollywood - wow! So, I broke it down. I asked her what makes her different from all the other wanna-be actresses out there. She couldn't answer me (okay, there's her first problem). I then asked her what would look more attractive to a casting agent - a wanna be actress with a pretty smile or a wanna be actress with a pretty smile and a following of 3- million online fans? Can you believe it, but she still didn't get it. She was asking me if I knew of any video podcasters that could get her to Hollywood. Like I mean, pay her way, put her up in a hotel and connect her with all the cool people in Hollywood. I nearly laughed. If only she knew ;) The Internet in general and video podcasting in particular puts the power of distribution in the hands of many, but sadly, people like this actress will claw away at scarce resources because they can't see beyond the traditional path. Thanks, Leesa Barnes Website - http://www.leesabarnes.com Blogsite - http://podonomics.com Creator - http://www.planakillerpodcast.com Organizer - http://podcamptoronto.org
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What really traps new talent (and it's not the gatekeepers)
Totally agree! I think that 'quick and dirty video editor' is soon going to be the web designer of the Internet bubble days. EVERY business will need a video commercial/brochure soon -- in the same way every company needed a webpage in 99. Sharpen those imovie skills!!! -halcyon On 2/16/07, humancloner1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, there are people out there who are really dumb. However, I know one enterprising professional filmmaker who shoots auditions for aspiring actresses for a fee---just like the old game of selling photographic portfolios to would-be models. Actually, there is nothing wrong with doing that. I'm surprised move vloggers haven't gotten the idea of just going door to door telling someone that for $200 they'll put up a five minute ad for their bakery (or other business) give them a copy on DVD. For those unable to do it for themselves, $200 would be a great investment if you had a location/hotel/lounge/retial shop with an interesting ambience. Ma, I found this fabulous 'Magic Shop' in NYC with powerful crystals. They said you could get an idea by watching this link on the Internet! I really 'have to have' the big quartz crystal in their window. It's only $395.00! You get the idea. Like that famous old Carvel Man (am I dating myself here?), everyone gets a kick out of seeing hearing themselves in the media--even if it is just on the Internet at YouTube. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Hoboken, NJ One mile West of the center of the world! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, leesarbarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, humancloner1997 rhwicker@ wrote: I couldn't agree more with Schlomo on this one. Vlogging removes the gatekeepers but traditional media tries to trap new talent. When you buy into them, you won't feature the really interesting, different and fabulous things in your own life because you have been brainwashed to think most popular is best. New talent is trapped, not by traditional media, but by their limited thinking. Case in point - I met an actress about a month ago at a photo shoot. I go into a studio once a year to get professional pictures done. I love the camera, but the whole of act of cheesing in front of one for hours on end is too rigid for my taste. So, I met this young woman who's an aspiring actress. And I use the word aspiring loosely as she's still trying to get her first gig. She was complaining that she couldn't find an agent to represent her and just couldn't get any breaks. Of course, my video podcasting hat goes on and I start telling her about the benefits to her career if she starts one. That if she could put together a show and broadcast it over the internet, she could amass a following. That people who show that they have a following are 10x more likely to get their break on TV (these are my made-up stats, so don't quote me). I told her about Amanda and gave her a Canadian example, Amber MacArthur - both women who used podcasting to jump start their careers in mainstream media. This wanna-be aspiring actress couldn't wrap her mind around what I was saying. She was still asking me about casting agents. She thought I was her connection to Hollywood - wow! So, I broke it down. I asked her what makes her different from all the other wanna-be actresses out there. She couldn't answer me (okay, there's her first problem). I then asked her what would look more attractive to a casting agent - a wanna be actress with a pretty smile or a wanna be actress with a pretty smile and a following of 3- million online fans? Can you believe it, but she still didn't get it. She was asking me if I knew of any video podcasters that could get her to Hollywood. Like I mean, pay her way, put her up in a hotel and connect her with all the cool people in Hollywood. I nearly laughed. If only she knew ;) The Internet in general and video podcasting in particular puts the power of distribution in the hands of many, but sadly, people like this actress will claw away at scarce resources because they can't see beyond the traditional path. Thanks, Leesa Barnes Website - http://www.leesabarnes.com Blogsite - http://podonomics.com Creator - http://www.planakillerpodcast.com Organizer - http://podcamptoronto.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: What really traps new talent (and it's not the gatekeepers)
+1 That's a benefit to being an editor... you ALWAYS get paid. :D If you think there are/were A LOT of reality tv shows on television, imagine how many PILOTS people made in order to pitch their shows to a production company! Whether their show is picked up or not, they still had to pay the editor to make the pilot. Same thing with music. If you think there are a lot of rappers (now that they let ANYBODY on the mic... :/ ), imagine how many people bought hours in the studio to put together a demo tape. It used to be really funny, knowing full well that some of the guys were absolute GARBAGE on the mic, and weren't going anywhere... but business is business, so the tapes/CDs got made. At least they had something to take back to the block and pull some chicks with by fronting like they're actually in the industry! :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Halcyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Totally agree! I think that 'quick and dirty video editor' is soon going to be the web designer of the Internet bubble days. EVERY business will need a video commercial/brochure soon -- in the same way every company needed a webpage in 99. Sharpen those imovie skills!!! -halcyon On 2/16/07, humancloner1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, there are people out there who are really dumb. However, I know one enterprising professional filmmaker who shoots auditions for aspiring actresses for a fee---just like the old game of selling photographic portfolios to would-be models. Actually, there is nothing wrong with doing that. I'm surprised move vloggers haven't gotten the idea of just going door to door telling someone that for $200 they'll put up a five minute ad for their bakery (or other business) give them a copy on DVD. For those unable to do it for themselves, $200 would be a great investment if you had a location/hotel/lounge/retial shop with an interesting ambience. Ma, I found this fabulous 'Magic Shop' in NYC with powerful crystals. They said you could get an idea by watching this link on the Internet! I really 'have to have' the big quartz crystal in their window. It's only $395.00! You get the idea. Like that famous old Carvel Man (am I dating myself here?), everyone gets a kick out of seeing hearing themselves in the media--even if it is just on the Internet at YouTube. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Hoboken, NJ One mile West of the center of the world! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, leesarbarnes leesarbarnes@ wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, humancloner1997 rhwicker@ wrote: I couldn't agree more with Schlomo on this one. Vlogging removes the gatekeepers but traditional media tries to trap new talent. When you buy into them, you won't feature the really interesting, different and fabulous things in your own life because you have been brainwashed to think most popular is best. New talent is trapped, not by traditional media, but by their limited thinking. Case in point - I met an actress about a month ago at a photo shoot. I go into a studio once a year to get professional pictures done. I love the camera, but the whole of act of cheesing in front of one for hours on end is too rigid for my taste. So, I met this young woman who's an aspiring actress. And I use the word aspiring loosely as she's still trying to get her first gig. She was complaining that she couldn't find an agent to represent her and just couldn't get any breaks. Of course, my video podcasting hat goes on and I start telling her about the benefits to her career if she starts one. That if she could put together a show and broadcast it over the internet, she could amass a following. That people who show that they have a following are 10x more likely to get their break on TV (these are my made-up stats, so don't quote me). I told her about Amanda and gave her a Canadian example, Amber MacArthur - both women who used podcasting to jump start their careers in mainstream media. This wanna-be aspiring actress couldn't wrap her mind around what I was saying. She was still asking me about casting agents. She thought I was her connection to Hollywood - wow! So, I broke it down. I asked her what makes her different from all the other wanna-be actresses out there. She couldn't answer me (okay, there's her first problem). I then asked her what would look more attractive to a casting agent - a wanna be actress with a pretty smile or a wanna be actress with a pretty smile and a following of 3- million online fans? Can you believe it, but she still didn't get it. She was asking me if I knew of any video podcasters that could get her to Hollywood. Like I mean, pay her way, put her up in
[videoblogging] Re: What really traps new talent (and it's not the gatekeepers)
I agree, I am constantly surprised by the number of people who are trying to make it in the business who have no idea how the web can help their cause. Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, leesarbarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, humancloner1997 rhwicker@ wrote: I couldn't agree more with Schlomo on this one. Vlogging removes the gatekeepers but traditional media tries to trap new talent. When you buy into them, you won't feature the really interesting, different and fabulous things in your own life because you have been brainwashed to think most popular is best. New talent is trapped, not by traditional media, but by their limited thinking. Case in point - I met an actress about a month ago at a photo shoot. I go into a studio once a year to get professional pictures done. I love the camera, but the whole of act of cheesing in front of one for hours on end is too rigid for my taste. So, I met this young woman who's an aspiring actress. And I use the word aspiring loosely as she's still trying to get her first gig. She was complaining that she couldn't find an agent to represent her and just couldn't get any breaks. Of course, my video podcasting hat goes on and I start telling her about the benefits to her career if she starts one. That if she could put together a show and broadcast it over the internet, she could amass a following. That people who show that they have a following are 10x more likely to get their break on TV (these are my made-up stats, so don't quote me). I told her about Amanda and gave her a Canadian example, Amber MacArthur - both women who used podcasting to jump start their careers in mainstream media. This wanna-be aspiring actress couldn't wrap her mind around what I was saying. She was still asking me about casting agents. She thought I was her connection to Hollywood - wow! So, I broke it down. I asked her what makes her different from all the other wanna-be actresses out there. She couldn't answer me (okay, there's her first problem). I then asked her what would look more attractive to a casting agent - a wanna be actress with a pretty smile or a wanna be actress with a pretty smile and a following of 3- million online fans? Can you believe it, but she still didn't get it. She was asking me if I knew of any video podcasters that could get her to Hollywood. Like I mean, pay her way, put her up in a hotel and connect her with all the cool people in Hollywood. I nearly laughed. If only she knew ;) The Internet in general and video podcasting in particular puts the power of distribution in the hands of many, but sadly, people like this actress will claw away at scarce resources because they can't see beyond the traditional path. Thanks, Leesa Barnes Website - http://www.leesabarnes.com Blogsite - http://podonomics.com Creator - http://www.planakillerpodcast.com Organizer - http://podcamptoronto.org
