Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
Maybe I misread something. Didn't they say they only wanted general audience materials? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Garfield To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration Randolfe,I just went to the YouTube website, to see where you formed this impression, and did not see anything about their owning of content.Can you provide a link to a URL that explains their policy on uploaded videos?Thank you,--SteveOn Nov 22, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: Bev, I have the impression that YouTube "owns" your work once you post it there.--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
Bev, I have the impression that YouTube "owns" your work once you post it there. Have you examined the details there carefully? I remember doing so weeks ago and that really turned me off. They also sounded "censorious" insofar as they didn't want anything that wasn't "family friendly" or something like that. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: BevSykes To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration What a nice message. Thanks, Jay! I've about decided to keep on doing what I'm doing--processing in wmv, converting to 3ivx to post to Blip and also post to YouTube which will convert to flash for me and link it to my flog. Cumbersome, at best, but at least it covers as many of the bases as I am able to cover. Thanks so much. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com - Original Message - From: Jay dedman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all.i always have little tech questions.soemtimes I post on the group...but oftne i email peopledirectly...becasue i uslaly need more help than one email.i think youve made friends with people on this groupyou can always email me directly if you have a tech questions.jay.dedmanATgmail.comwe all started confused with this stuff.friends of mine will tell you that im still pretty ignorant now. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that they can't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all.see, youre already ahead of the curve.i was at a devloper's confernce last month.there were reps from Yahoo, reuters, etc...and everyone was frustratedwith video formats.NO ONE KNOWS.there is no format that works everywhere.the commercial world is going all Flash.but its not remixable..andvery often difficult to aggregate.I have never seen flash done well.usually its some commercial player that streams flash and has adsbefore and after the video. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer.if someone has a problem watching your video on their machine...itsnot YOUR fault.very oftnen its a person who doesnt know how to install the most basicsoftware for viewing video.Quicktime and WMV.we're also all the unfortunate victims of a war between MS and Apple.they dont want to play nice with each other.my suggestion is just make video thats easiest for you.if you have a Windows machinemake WMV.if you have an apple, use QT.i have a Mac computer but can watch both formats easily.if your viewer has problems watching your videossend them a link to the correct player. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't view your videos."i can watch your videosyou must realize that you
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
Randolfe, I just went to the YouTube website, to see where you formed this impression, and did not see anything about their owning of content. Can you provide a link to a URL that explains their policy on uploaded videos? Thank you, --Steve On Nov 22, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: Bev, I have the impression that YouTube owns your work once you post it there. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution.
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
I didn't notice that particular statement in the FAQs and didn't see any place where it mentions that. I did notice that they say no nudity and that it should be "appropriate for all audiences." My stuff isn't on a par with yours. It's not nearly as professional and pretty appropriate for all audiences, so I guess those two issues don't bother me as much. The one thing that DOES bother me is the amount of copyrighted material that is posted to YouTube, direct from TV or other material that you know is not the work of the poster. However, they may be cracking down on that a bit now since it seems to be less than it was. I still much prefer Blip, but for those who are unable to see the stuff I post to Blip, YouTube is a nice compromise, for me anyway. It seems to be getting better in the last month. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com - Original Message - From: Randolfe Wicker To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration Bev, I have the impression that YouTube "owns" your work once you post it there. Have you examined the details there carefully? I remember doing so weeks ago and that really turned me off. They also sounded "censorious" insofar as they didn't want anything that wasn't "family friendly" or something like that. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: BevSykes To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration What a nice message. Thanks, Jay! I've about decided to keep on doing what I'm doing--processing in wmv, converting to 3ivx to post to Blip and also post to YouTube which will convert to flash for me and link it to my flog. Cumbersome, at best, but at least it covers as many of the bases as I am able to cover. Thanks so much. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com - Original Message - From: Jay dedman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all.i always have little tech questions.soemtimes I post on the group...but oftne i email peopledirectly...becasue i uslaly need more help than one email.i think youve made friends with people on this groupyou can always email me directly if you have a tech questions.jay.dedmanATgmail.comwe all started confused with this stuff.friends of mine will tell you that im still pretty ignorant now. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that they can't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all.see, youre already ahead of the curve.i was at a devloper's confernce last month.there were reps from Yahoo, reuters, etc...and everyone was frustratedwith video formats.NO ONE KNOWS.there is no format that works everywhere.the commercial world is going all Flash.but its not remixable..andvery often difficult to aggregate.I have never seen flash done well.usually its some commercial player that streams flash and has adsbefore and after the video. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see eit
[videoblogging] the continuing frustration
I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now thatI can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that theycan't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't view your videos." -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
not a thorn here bev i still firmly believe that *most* people have trouble seeing videos. i have no evidence, but i think the odds of internet users being able to view one of video is less than 1 in 6. that is, it's half a crap shot at this time, the best way i know to make sure people see videos is to teach them to vlog and use tools like fireant i realize that learning to vlog and rss can be a huge hurdle for some, but look at the benefits the more you vlog, the better you view? markus BevSykes wrote: I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now thatI can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that theycan't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't view your videos." -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Journal: http://funnytheworld.com -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
at this time, the best way i know to make sure people see videos is to teach them to vlog and use tools like fireant Has anybody tried the google reader? I'm finding it much easier to use than FireAnt, though it is much less versatile, I realize, but it seems to be the nice plain-vanilla tool that works for me.i realize that learning to vlog and rss can be a huge hurdle for some, but look at the benefits the more you vlog, the better you view? Six months ago, I didn't have a clue about most of this stuff, and I am so grateful to everyone for all that I've learned! -Bev SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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and link it to my flog. Hmmm...was this one of my freudian slips YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
I never noticed that. hmm... On 11/22/05, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and link it to my flog. Hmmm...was this one of my freudian slips YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.