Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Oh Ractalece.. congrats on the feature.. brad is a good guy :) yeah people are ruthless when you get a feature.. just do what makes you happy :) Jill On 11/15/07, ractalfece <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I saw you got featured. Brilliant. Congrats. > > > > But I also saw that hundreds of Youtube types didn't get your schtick > > at all and wrote the usual stream of hate that they write to pretty > > much any creator with a brain who gets featured. Your average rating > > was 2 stars. > > > > I found that very depressing. Didn't you? > > Thanks Rupert. Naw, 2 stars doesn't depress me. I used to do poetry > slams. You know, where the members of the audience have score boards > and you get up there and read your precious poetry. And then you get > the brutal truth. People hate it or love it. It's natural. That's > what this niche stuff is about. > > Getting the YouTube feature is like performing at a stadium filled > with idiots. It's a painful experience. But out of all those idiots > there's a tiny percentage of weirdos who might be into your stuff. > > Continuing this analogy further, I have no desire to perform at > staduims. But now that I've done it once, when I show up at the > coffee shops, they'll be packed. My latest video has over 4,000 hits, > a 4.5 star rating and extremely supportive comments. I'm proud of > this one, take a look, > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B1J7oq99uQ > http://www.detrimentalinformation.com/2007/11/shit_the_shoe.html > > > > > Actually, I find Youtube user behaviour regularly depresses me about > > the future of online video. > > > > But then I'm a person who'd rather not see people antagonising each > > other on this list, and lots of other people think there's something > > revealing and interesting about that. So maybe I'm missing the whole > > point. Perhaps hateful Youtube users are really very fascinating > and fun? > > > > It doesn't depress me. I try to imagine this anonymous crowd of > hateful YouTube users. All I see is a bunch of teenagers. The future > of online video? Those teenagers aren't going to be teenagers > forever. It's going to mature. Might take a few more years though. > >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Thank you and you are correct. The "bullies" on youtube can destroy you. They tear apart my new channel- and I have agreed the content was to mature for youtube. We will be jumping over to blip.tv with some new material. But the flagging on that website is ridiculous. On 11/15/07, ractalfece <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Cook" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone: > > > > On Nov 14, 2007 10:55 PM, Jill H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > > > Not to be rude, > > > > Not being rude at all BUT > > > > > but you can find a TON of PARTNERS on youtube who show > > > nudity. Ripetv, Ford Models, NoGoodTV, just to name a few. My channel > > > was not showing any nudity, just discussing funny stories regarding > > > nudity. Completely different. > > > > Well in this sick & perverted world where people are willing to be > > DUMB enough to show up AT A STRANGE HOUSE (Some of 'em ALREADY NAKED > > BEFORE THEY EVEN REACH THE FRONT DOOR) to have sex with someone > > they've NEVER met except in a chat room on the Internet who claims to > > be an *ahem* "adult" - ONLY to be subjected to an interview by a > > journalist and humuliaton of being put on NATIONAL TV and later arrest > > by law enforcement, NOTHING would surprise me. > > > > I was just simply pointing out how sick & perverted (And unfortunately > > in some cases, how hateful) some people can be towards even JUST THE > > TALK containing sexually-oriented content. That's all. Nothing more. > > Nothing less. :D > > > > So we shouldn't talk about something so fundamentally human because of > a scary, tabloid television show? > > From what Jill is saying, sounds like YouTube's flagging system is > like it's DMCA takedown system. Bullies can use it to get rid of > things they don't like and the creator has no say. And that sucks. > > I've been on YouTube for a year now. And I've been trying to find the > line. I talk graphically about sex in many of my videos. I use words > like "fuck" and "dick" and "pussy". A lot of my stuff is pure trash. > But none of it has been taken down. In fact, I just got featured! > > But I've been living with the constant fear that my channel will be > deleted. Well, it's not really a fear. I expect it to happen. So > I've been uploading my videos to blip.tv as well. They treat you like > an adult. They let you flag your own stuff. > >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
> If they do follow you to your blog to harrass you, each comment they > send you will come with their IP address - which is a number unique > (in most cases) to their internet connection. With your own Wordpress > blog, you can blacklist those specific IP addresses in your blog's > simple control panel. Get a comment from a stalker, copy the IP > address from their comment into your blog's IP-blocking box, and bam, > their internet connection is blocked. This is an excellent idea. In addition, having the stalker's IP address is one step closer to that person's identity especially if the stalking is taken to the "real" world. To get those IP addresses from YouTube (if they respond to you) requires a subpoena. . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Online Video Posting Sites, HELP NEEDED please! :)
Hi Rupert, I do not want to sound lame, but I am easily confused once someone mentions blocking IP addresses and RSS information. I made a video on youtube about they do not care about the community, as they never respond to my emails- which was about flagging. two hours later, they emailed me a generic response. There is nothing you can do about harassment. People are able to create an account in 5 mins. I have already sent out complaints on two separate users who would like to see me fail in life and make my video blogging experience miserable. There is one girl who's only purpose on youtube is to make hate videos about me. Someone I do not think that is fair or right? Plus she spams and harasses my friends and family members on there. I have more positive then negative influences on their, but it's the negative ones that really get to you. I would love to talk to Steve Chen, I do not think the people at youtube really understand harassment and stalkers. I had one fan fly from england to meet me. I didn't want to meet him and he got so angry that now he trolls me on youtube and any other site and makes my life miserable. That is not normal. Sorry for this long rant. I do not want to disable comments because there are a lot of great friends I have. But I am looking into posting my work vlogs on Blip.tv. If you could further explain blocking IP's that would be great... if you want to take if off this list, so no one gets annoyed, my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Jill On 11/14/07, Rupert Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Jill, > YouTube comments suck at the best of times - I can't imagine what it's > like to be persistently harrassed by the same people there. The bad > comments I've had there, I've blocked the users - but I imagine these > guys just sign up for new accounts to persist? > > I wish someone would take this up with Steve Chen at the NewTeeVee > Live event in the next couple of days. The hater situation needs > serious addressing there, and they don't seem to care. It's the > single worst thing about YouTube. > > Have you been in touch with YouTube support, to block your > stalkers/haters and to check with them that your site won't be taken > down because it doesn't violate their T&C? As far as I know, > especially if they're aware that there's a problem, they'll check > before taking down videos that are flagged as inappropriate. > > And have you thought of disabling comments on YouTube and embedding > your YT videos on a blog, where you can control comments and also > design a great site around them? > > If you set up a blog on Wordpress, you can block certain IP addresses > from sending comments. IP address blocks are a lot harder for people > to get around than just blocking their account on YouTube - the > average person can't just create another IP address the way they can > create a new YouTube account. > > That means you can also still continue to host your videos on YouTube > and keep all your subscribers - just disable all comments there and > directing people in your videos to comment at your blog instead of at > Youtube. > > Rupert > http://twittervlog.tv > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jt_hanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey Everyone, > > > > My name is Jill. I am on youtube, my link is > http://www.youtube.com/xgobobeanx > > > > i recently started vloging for a company that deals with nudity. I > started a new channel on > > youtube called http://www.youtube.com/icnakedpeople > > > > Because I am somewhat popular on my xgobobeanx channel, I have > haters and stalkers. > > These two groups have followed me over to my icnakedpeople channel > and have been > > trying to get it shut down for inappropriate content. I am not > showing nudity, but it is > > more of a silly talk show about stories regarding nudity- nude beach > experiences, new > > parties... etc. If you have 5 free mins, please jump over to the > channel and take a look. ( i > > hope none of my stalkers on this email list- if anyone wants to > trade scary stalker stories > > i am all ears) > > > > Anyhow- are there any other video posting sites that would except > this talk show? I tried > > contacting blip, but have not heard back from them. > > > > I am not looking to get a million views, i am just looking to not > have my channel banned, > > or flagged, or taken down. > > > > Any suggestions... please please please.. i am so desperate. > > > > Not sure if anyone has every experienced haters, stalkers, and > obsessed people, but it > > hurts and you feel out of control, because nothing can be done. > > > > Thank you for listening, > > Jill > > > > > >
