[Videolib] PPR for Turkish films
Hello, I'm querying the collective wisdom of the list to see if there are any thoughts on the best way to approach this. A Turkish student group asked me recently about the rights issues connected to screening some films (all features from Turkey) just on campus (no charge). These aren't titles in the collection-they are available mostly in some very specific video stores and from online sellers. They are all region 2 DVDs or PAL VHS, and seem to have no U.S. distributor. An example is Yol (1982): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084934/ The group really does want to do the right thing and obtain the rights to show the films outside the classroom, but I've reached the extent of my knowledge about this since it isn't a regular part of my job. We've checked a lot of the major U.S. sources like Swank, etc., and there's no indication that any of the titles they are interested in are covered by an American vendor. What would be the best advice for them on this? Thanks for any insight, Diana Diana King Librarian for Film, Television and Theater UCLA Arts Library |1400 Public Affairs Building | Box 951392 | Los Angeles, CA 90095-1392 Telephone: 310-206-4823 | Fax: 310-825-1303 | Email: dik...@library.ucla.edumailto:dik...@library.ucla.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films
If Swank, Criterion or the independent distributors of foreign films in the US do not have the title you need, look online at Variety or IMDB to find the company associated with the film. Then, search for that company's website online. You can use Google Translate to view the website in English. If the company is in Turkey, you may wish for one of the students who speak that language to make a phone call to the company. Or you can write a letter and ask one of the students to translate it before you e-mail it to the company. UNCW has succeeded in purchasing PPR to foreign films this way, but it can take some time and patience. On a few, rare occasions, the copyright owners provided free PPR (get this in writing!). http://www.arabfilm.com/ may have Turkish films, but I have not used this site. Thanks, Sandra Sandra F. Jackson Film Program Coordinator Lumina Theater Sharky's Box Office Department of Campus Life The University of North Carolina Wilmington Phone 910.962.7971 Fax: 910-962-7438 jackso...@uncw.edu http://www.uncw.edu/lumina NOTICE: Emails sent and received in the course of university business are subject to the North Carolina Public Records Act (N.C.G.S. §132-1 et seq.) and may be released to the public unless an exception applies. From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of King, Diana L. Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:40 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films Hello, I'm querying the collective wisdom of the list to see if there are any thoughts on the best way to approach this. A Turkish student group asked me recently about the rights issues connected to screening some films (all features from Turkey) just on campus (no charge). These aren't titles in the collection-they are available mostly in some very specific video stores and from online sellers. They are all region 2 DVDs or PAL VHS, and seem to have no U.S. distributor. An example is Yol (1982): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084934/ The group really does want to do the right thing and obtain the rights to show the films outside the classroom, but I've reached the extent of my knowledge about this since it isn't a regular part of my job. We've checked a lot of the major U.S. sources like Swank, etc., and there's no indication that any of the titles they are interested in are covered by an American vendor. What would be the best advice for them on this? Thanks for any insight, Diana Diana King Librarian for Film, Television and Theater UCLA Arts Library |1400 Public Affairs Building | Box 951392 | Los Angeles, CA 90095-1392 Telephone: 310-206-4823 | Fax: 310-825-1303 | Email: dik...@library.ucla.edumailto:dik...@library.ucla.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films
I find IMDB a terrible source for accurate info on owners, but I agree with the rest. Per previous email, original Variety review is probably the best source I can think of or if you can find it, info from festivals it may have shown in which often list sources. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jackson, Sandra F. jackso...@uncw.eduwrote: If Swank, Criterion or the independent distributors of foreign films in the US do not have the title you need, look online at Variety or IMDB to find the company associated with the film. Then, search for that company’s website online. You can use Google Translate to view the website in English. If the company is in Turkey, you may wish for one of the students who speak that language to make a phone call to the company. Or you can write a letter and ask one of the students to translate it before you e-mail it to the company. UNCW has succeeded in purchasing PPR to foreign films this way, but it can take some time and patience. On a few, rare occasions, the copyright owners provided free PPR (get this in writing!). http://www.arabfilm.com/ may have Turkish films, but I have not used this site. Thanks, Sandra *Sandra F. Jackson** **Film Program Coordinator ** **Lumina Theater Sharky's Box Office** *Department of Campus Life The University of North Carolina Wilmington Phone 910.962.7971 Fax: 910-962-7438 jackso...@uncw.edu *http://www.uncw.edu/lumina* *NOTICE: Emails sent and received in the course of university business are subject to the North Carolina Public Records Act (N.C.G.S. §132-1 et seq.) and may be released to the public unless an exception applies.* *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *King, Diana L. *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:40 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films Hello, I’m querying the collective wisdom of the list to see if there are any thoughts on the best way to approach this. A Turkish student group asked me recently about the rights issues connected to screening some films (all features from Turkey) just on campus (no charge). These aren’t titles in the collection—they are available mostly in some very specific video stores and from online sellers. They are all region 2 DVDs or PAL VHS, and seem to have no U.S. distributor. An example is Yol (1982): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084934/ The group really does want to do the right thing and obtain the rights to show the films outside the classroom, but I’ve reached the extent of my knowledge about this since it isn’t a regular part of my job. We’ve checked a lot of the major U.S. sources like Swank, etc., and there’s no indication that any of the titles they are interested in are covered by an American vendor. What would be the best advice for them on this? Thanks for any insight, Diana Diana King Librarian for Film, Television and Theater UCLA Arts Library |1400 Public Affairs Building | Box 951392 | Los Angeles, CA 90095-1392 *Telephone*: 310-206-4823 | *Fax*: 310-825-1303 | *Email*: dik...@library.ucla.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films
One more suggestion, you can try the local Turkish Consulate or even better the Embassy in DC. They likely have a cultural attache who could be of great help. If you can reach them, they may be of help not only in locating the owners, but perhaps in negotiating a good deal. They want to promote Turkish culture. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, King, Diana L. dik...@library.ucla.eduwrote: Hello, I’m querying the collective wisdom of the list to see if there are any thoughts on the best way to approach this. A Turkish student group asked me recently about the rights issues connected to screening some films (all features from Turkey) just on campus (no charge). These aren’t titles in the collection—they are available mostly in some very specific video stores and from online sellers. They are all region 2 DVDs or PAL VHS, and seem to have no U.S. distributor. An example is Yol (1982): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084934/ The group really does want to do the right thing and obtain the rights to show the films outside the classroom, but I’ve reached the extent of my knowledge about this since it isn’t a regular part of my job. We’ve checked a lot of the major U.S. sources like Swank, etc., and there’s no indication that any of the titles they are interested in are covered by an American vendor. What would be the best advice for them on this? Thanks for any insight, Diana Diana King Librarian for Film, Television and Theater UCLA Arts Library |1400 Public Affairs Building | Box 951392 | Los Angeles, CA 90095-1392 *Telephone*: 310-206-4823 | *Fax*: 310-825-1303 | *Email*: dik...@library.ucla.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films
I agree that IMDB is not ideal, but it can be a starting point when you can't find a company mentioned anywhere else for a fairly obscure foreign film. Sometimes you have to do research on six companies listed on a films IMDB listing before you find the right one that actually owns the rights. I also agree that festivals and other theaters can be good resources. If someone else has played the film, they likely still have the contacts. I've had luck with this method, too. Thanks, Sandra Sandra F. Jackson Film Program Coordinator Lumina Theater Sharky's Box Office Department of Campus Life The University of North Carolina Wilmington Phone 910.962.7971 Fax: 910-962-7438 jackso...@uncw.edu http://www.uncw.edu/lumina NOTICE: Emails sent and received in the course of university business are subject to the North Carolina Public Records Act (N.C.G.S. §132-1 et seq.) and may be released to the public unless an exception applies. From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:13 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films I find IMDB a terrible source for accurate info on owners, but I agree with the rest. Per previous email, original Variety review is probably the best source I can think of or if you can find it, info from festivals it may have shown in which often list sources. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jackson, Sandra F. jackso...@uncw.edumailto:jackso...@uncw.edu wrote: If Swank, Criterion or the independent distributors of foreign films in the US do not have the title you need, look online at Variety or IMDB to find the company associated with the film. Then, search for that company's website online. You can use Google Translate to view the website in English. If the company is in Turkey, you may wish for one of the students who speak that language to make a phone call to the company. Or you can write a letter and ask one of the students to translate it before you e-mail it to the company. UNCW has succeeded in purchasing PPR to foreign films this way, but it can take some time and patience. On a few, rare occasions, the copyright owners provided free PPR (get this in writing!). http://www.arabfilm.com/ may have Turkish films, but I have not used this site. Thanks, Sandra Sandra F. Jackson Film Program Coordinator Lumina Theater Sharky's Box Office Department of Campus Life The University of North Carolina Wilmington Phone 910.962.7971 Fax: 910-962-7438 jackso...@uncw.edumailto:jackso...@uncw.edu http://www.uncw.edu/lumina NOTICE: Emails sent and received in the course of university business are subject to the North Carolina Public Records Act (N.C.G.S. §132-1 et seq.) and may be released to the public unless an exception applies. From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of King, Diana L. Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:40 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films Hello, I'm querying the collective wisdom of the list to see if there are any thoughts on the best way to approach this. A Turkish student group asked me recently about the rights issues connected to screening some films (all features from Turkey) just on campus (no charge). These aren't titles in the collection-they are available mostly in some very specific video stores and from online sellers. They are all region 2 DVDs or PAL VHS, and seem to have no U.S. distributor. An example is Yol (1982): The group really does want to do the right thing and obtain the rights to show the films outside the classroom, but I've reached the extent of my knowledge about this since it isn't a regular part of my job. We've checked a lot of the major U.S. sources like Swank, etc., and there's no indication that any of the titles they are interested in are covered by an American vendor. What would be the best advice for them on this? Thanks for any insight, Diana Diana King Librarian for Film, Television and Theater UCLA Arts Library |1400 Public Affairs Building | Box 951392 | Los Angeles, CA 90095-1392 Telephone: 310-206-4823 | Fax: 310-825-1303 | Email: dik...@library.ucla.edumailto:dik...@library.ucla.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line)
Re: [Videolib] PPR for Turkish films
Looks like YOL is a NIGHTMARE. My friend at Sony said the owner had been Cactus Films but he had no idea if they were still around and this is what I found. I think this is a rare case where you can in good conscience just show the DVD, but this is VERY unusual and not the norm. There are cases where rights are in dispute or rights holder just does not want to deal with you or won't answer. In those cases there is no way to legally show it, in this caseit seems way past that. The rights to *Yol* are very disputed. Even during Yilmaz Güney's lifetime, there were big fights about the ownership of the film between Güney and Donat Keusch, the Manager of a Swisshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland-based service company called Cactus Film AG, who claimed to own the whole film himself. After Güney's death, the dispute escalated between Keusch and Güney's widow. When Keusch filed for bankruptcy[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-Keusch_files-0with his Cactus Film AG [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-Cactus_Film_files_for_bankruptcy-1in 1995, the situation got even more complicated and resulted in numerous lawsuits in Switzerland and France. The lawsuits still continue today. There are numerous sellers in the market claiming to be the sole owner of the world rights to *Yol*, and the film is offered in different versions through different distribution channels.[3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-French_DVD_Version_of_Yol-2 [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-Yol_on_kinalu-3 However, since the fights over the rights clearance have been going on for decades now, the film has become sort of public domainhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domainand can be viewed for free on GoogleVideo. [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-Yol_on_GoogleVideo-4 A court in Zurich has asserted that Güney Productions in Paris is the current owner of the film and that Keusch's claims are illegitimate.[6]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-Keusch_sues-5But Keusch persists in selling the rights he does not have. The judges even doubted that the bankrupt Cactus Film would have had any rights in the film. This is the position asserted by the head of the Cinémathèque suissehttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cin%C3%A9math%C3%A8que_suisse .[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-Cinema_wants-6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yol#cite_note-Cinema_wants-6 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, King, Diana L. dik...@library.ucla.eduwrote: Hello, I’m querying the collective wisdom of the list to see if there are any thoughts on the best way to approach this. A Turkish student group asked me recently about the rights issues connected to screening some films (all features from Turkey) just on campus (no charge). These aren’t titles in the collection—they are available mostly in some very specific video stores and from online sellers. They are all region 2 DVDs or PAL VHS, and seem to have no U.S. distributor. An example is Yol (1982): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084934/ The group really does want to do the right thing and obtain the rights to show the films outside the classroom, but I’ve reached the extent of my knowledge about this since it isn’t a regular part of my job. We’ve checked a lot of the major U.S. sources like Swank, etc., and there’s no indication that any of the titles they are interested in are covered by an American vendor. What would be the best advice for them on this? Thanks for any insight, Diana Diana King Librarian for Film, Television and Theater UCLA Arts Library |1400 Public Affairs Building | Box 951392 | Los Angeles, CA 90095-1392 *Telephone*: 310-206-4823 | *Fax*: 310-825-1303 | *Email*: dik...@library.ucla.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Way off topic copyright case
For anyone who needs a laugh, The Heckler which is basically The Onion for Cub fans (with other sports thrown in for fun) just got into a copyright dispute with Lingerie Football League and no I am not making this up. This should teach lawyers not to mess with satirists. http://www.theheckler.com/2011/01/26/an-open-letter-to-lingerie-football-league-commissioner-mitch-mortaza/ -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Way off topic copyright case
Funny. Thanks- richard www.RichardCohenFilms.com It's because it's sort of incredibly true. This is what the world is Read Complete Essay at Film North BankVIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] VRT Notables video featured in AL Direct
A quick video announcing this year's selections and a bit about the criteria for the VRT Notable Videos for Adults. Nice job folks. http://www.americanlibrariesmagazine.org/al_focus/vrt-notable-videos-adults http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMBHvtIf8rA VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Looking for Black Girl
Disney said they did not own it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Hooper, Lisa K lhoop...@tulane.eduwrote: Hi Jessica, Thanks for your response. i also traced the lines of ownership but lost the thread with Disney. Even though it looks quite interesting i'm beginning to suspect based on the only OCLC record i could find is that the only cataloged film is in the UCLA film archive. Best, -lisa -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu on behalf of Jessica Rosner Sent: Mon 1/24/2011 3:58 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for Black Girl It was released by Cinerama, which was part of ABC which now part of Disney, but I have no idea if they still own it and they clearly have not released it. On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Hooper, Lisa K lhoop...@tulane.edu wrote: Hello everyone, I'm trying to locate Ossie Davis's 1972 film Black Girl, a Lee Savin Productions film. Does any one know if this title is, or has ever been, commercially available? Thanks! -lisa Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University lhoop...@tulane.edu 504.314.7822 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
