Re: [Videolib] Battleship Potemkin on 16mm
I should check with Corinth...I bought 16mm prints of "STRIKE!" (which I mentioned has titles that are slightly off-center and therefore slightly cut off but is otherwise visually beautiful, it KILLLS me...) and "October: Ten Days that Shook the World" (which I have not viewed yet but probably should..) from them. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Jessica Rosner wrote: > I have a good story about that Kino print. It showed at festival in > Delaware some years ago that I was attending. There was a noted academic > who had written about it that was presenting it. She was stunned to see the > actual complete Odessa Steps scene which she had only scene in the > infamously cut version. I could not believe there was a university > professor who actually did not know what the scene was uncut. > > Also MANY years ago there was a discussion on videolib about a version put > out by Republic that was indeed the > awful edited version. Milos from Facets joined in ( as the copy had been > bought from them) and said there must be some mistake no company would sell > the evil edited version, then he went an viewed it and pulled it out of the > catalogue since it was indeed edited but it was not a problem as the > company White Star had lovely version through Corinth ( oh they probably > have 16mm too). I remain shocked about both a professor and video company > using an infamously cut version > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Dave Dvorchak > wrote: > >> Thanks, both of you! >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Elizabeth Sheldon < >> elizab...@kinolorber.com> wrote: >> >>> Dave, >>> >>> Jessica is right and I have passed your question on to my colleague Gary >>> Palmucci, who oversees print rentals at Kino Lorber. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> Elizabeth Sheldon >>> Vice President >>> Kino Lorber, Inc. >>> 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 >>> New York, NY 10018 >>> (212) 629-6880 >>> >>> www.kino.com >>> www.kinolorberedu.com >>> >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: >>> >>> There are a lot of the famously cut prints around but I would try Kino >>> and see if they still have a 16mm. They did and it was good but you would >>> have to pay a rental >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Dave Dvorchak < >>> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> wrote: >>> I am hoping that someone on this list can help. >>> >>> I want to do a May Day screening of Potemkin on 16mm at our library. I >>> own >>> two prints, one being the 1950 Mosfilm version, which looks nice and has >>> narration and a score but is a butcher job of the film by most accounts, >>> and another silent print which is of unknown origin and less visually >>> appealing. >>> >>> Is there an opinion on the most "authentic" or "true" version available >>> on >>> 16mm? How is the Blackhawk version (I have not seen it)? >>> >>> If you have a good print available to rent or loan, I am all ears. I can >>> pay to ship and pay a rental fee, if necessary. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Dvorchak >>> Office Manager >>> Providence Community Library >>> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org >>> (401) 467-2700 x2 >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jessica Rosner >>> Media Consultant >>> 224-545-3897 (cell) >>> 212-627-1785 (land line) >>> jessicapros...@gmail.com >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> Elizabeth Sheldon >>> Vice President >>> Kino Lorber, Inc. >>> 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 >>> New York, NY 10018 >>> (212) 629-6880 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Dvorchak >> Office Manager >
Re: [Videolib] Battleship Potemkin on 16mm
I have a good story about that Kino print. It showed at festival in Delaware some years ago that I was attending. There was a noted academic who had written about it that was presenting it. She was stunned to see the actual complete Odessa Steps scene which she had only scene in the infamously cut version. I could not believe there was a university professor who actually did not know what the scene was uncut. Also MANY years ago there was a discussion on videolib about a version put out by Republic that was indeed the awful edited version. Milos from Facets joined in ( as the copy had been bought from them) and said there must be some mistake no company would sell the evil edited version, then he went an viewed it and pulled it out of the catalogue since it was indeed edited but it was not a problem as the company White Star had lovely version through Corinth ( oh they probably have 16mm too). I remain shocked about both a professor and video company using an infamously cut version On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Dave Dvorchak wrote: > Thanks, both of you! > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Elizabeth Sheldon < > elizab...@kinolorber.com> wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Jessica is right and I have passed your question on to my colleague Gary >> Palmucci, who oversees print rentals at Kino Lorber. >> >> Best, >> >> Elizabeth >> >> Elizabeth Sheldon >> Vice President >> Kino Lorber, Inc. >> 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 >> New York, NY 10018 >> (212) 629-6880 >> >> www.kino.com >> www.kinolorberedu.com >> >> >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: >> >> There are a lot of the famously cut prints around but I would try Kino >> and see if they still have a 16mm. They did and it was good but you would >> have to pay a rental >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Dave Dvorchak >> wrote: >> I am hoping that someone on this list can help. >> >> I want to do a May Day screening of Potemkin on 16mm at our library. I own >> two prints, one being the 1950 Mosfilm version, which looks nice and has >> narration and a score but is a butcher job of the film by most accounts, >> and another silent print which is of unknown origin and less visually >> appealing. >> >> Is there an opinion on the most "authentic" or "true" version available on >> 16mm? How is the Blackhawk version (I have not seen it)? >> >> If you have a good print available to rent or loan, I am all ears. I can >> pay to ship and pay a rental fee, if necessary. >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Dvorchak >> Office Manager >> Providence Community Library >> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org >> (401) 467-2700 x2 >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> >> >> -- >> Jessica Rosner >> Media Consultant >> 224-545-3897 (cell) >> 212-627-1785 (land line) >> jessicapros...@gmail.com >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Elizabeth >> >> Elizabeth Sheldon >> Vice President >> Kino Lorber, Inc. >> 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 >> New York, NY 10018 >> (212) 629-6880 >> >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> > > > > -- > David Dvorchak > Office Manager > Providence Community Library > ddvorc...@provcomlib.org > (401) 467-2700 x2 > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > -- Jess
Re: [Videolib] Battleship Potemkin on 16mm
Thanks, both of you! On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Elizabeth Sheldon < elizab...@kinolorber.com> wrote: > Dave, > > Jessica is right and I have passed your question on to my colleague Gary > Palmucci, who oversees print rentals at Kino Lorber. > > Best, > > Elizabeth > > Elizabeth Sheldon > Vice President > Kino Lorber, Inc. > 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 > New York, NY 10018 > (212) 629-6880 > > www.kino.com > www.kinolorberedu.com > > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: > > There are a lot of the famously cut prints around but I would try Kino and > see if they still have a 16mm. They did and it was good but you would have > to pay a rental > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Dave Dvorchak > wrote: > I am hoping that someone on this list can help. > > I want to do a May Day screening of Potemkin on 16mm at our library. I own > two prints, one being the 1950 Mosfilm version, which looks nice and has > narration and a score but is a butcher job of the film by most accounts, > and another silent print which is of unknown origin and less visually > appealing. > > Is there an opinion on the most "authentic" or "true" version available on > 16mm? How is the Blackhawk version (I have not seen it)? > > If you have a good print available to rent or loan, I am all ears. I can > pay to ship and pay a rental fee, if necessary. > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > > -- > David Dvorchak > Office Manager > Providence Community Library > ddvorc...@provcomlib.org > (401) 467-2700 x2 > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > > > -- > Jessica Rosner > Media Consultant > 224-545-3897 (cell) > 212-627-1785 (land line) > jessicapros...@gmail.com > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > > > Best, > > Elizabeth > > Elizabeth Sheldon > Vice President > Kino Lorber, Inc. > 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 > New York, NY 10018 > (212) 629-6880 > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > -- David Dvorchak Office Manager Providence Community Library ddvorc...@provcomlib.org (401) 467-2700 x2 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Battleship Potemkin on 16mm
Do you know who the best person is to directly contact there? On 4/18/12, Jessica Rosner wrote: > There are a lot of the famously cut prints around but I would try Kino and > see if they still have a 16mm. They did and it was good but you would have > to pay a rental > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Dave Dvorchak > wrote: > >> I am hoping that someone on this list can help. >> >> I want to do a May Day screening of Potemkin on 16mm at our library. I own >> two prints, one being the 1950 Mosfilm version, which looks nice and has >> narration and a score but is a butcher job of the film by most accounts, >> and another silent print which is of unknown origin and less visually >> appealing. >> >> Is there an opinion on the most "authentic" or "true" version available on >> 16mm? How is the Blackhawk version (I have not seen it)? >> >> If you have a good print available to rent or loan, I am all ears. I can >> pay to ship and pay a rental fee, if necessary. >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Dvorchak >> Office Manager >> Providence Community Library >> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org >> (401) 467-2700 x2 >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> > > > > -- > Jessica Rosner > Media Consultant > 224-545-3897 (cell) > 212-627-1785 (land line) > jessicapros...@gmail.com > -- David Dvorchak Office Manager Providence Community Library ddvorc...@provcomlib.org (401) 467-2700 x2 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Battleship Potemkin on 16mm
Dave, Jessica is right and I have passed your question on to my colleague Gary Palmucci, who oversees print rentals at Kino Lorber. Best, Elizabeth Elizabeth Sheldon Vice President Kino Lorber, Inc. 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 New York, NY 10018 (212) 629-6880 www.kino.com www.kinolorberedu.com On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: There are a lot of the famously cut prints around but I would try Kino and see if they still have a 16mm. They did and it was good but you would have to pay a rental On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Dave Dvorchak wrote: I am hoping that someone on this list can help. I want to do a May Day screening of Potemkin on 16mm at our library. I own two prints, one being the 1950 Mosfilm version, which looks nice and has narration and a score but is a butcher job of the film by most accounts, and another silent print which is of unknown origin and less visually appealing. Is there an opinion on the most "authentic" or "true" version available on 16mm? How is the Blackhawk version (I have not seen it)? If you have a good print available to rent or loan, I am all ears. I can pay to ship and pay a rental fee, if necessary. Thanks, Dave -- David Dvorchak Office Manager Providence Community Library ddvorc...@provcomlib.org (401) 467-2700 x2 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Best, Elizabeth Elizabeth Sheldon Vice President Kino Lorber, Inc. 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 New York, NY 10018 (212) 629-6880 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Battleship Potemkin on 16mm
There are a lot of the famously cut prints around but I would try Kino and see if they still have a 16mm. They did and it was good but you would have to pay a rental On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Dave Dvorchak wrote: > I am hoping that someone on this list can help. > > I want to do a May Day screening of Potemkin on 16mm at our library. I own > two prints, one being the 1950 Mosfilm version, which looks nice and has > narration and a score but is a butcher job of the film by most accounts, > and another silent print which is of unknown origin and less visually > appealing. > > Is there an opinion on the most "authentic" or "true" version available on > 16mm? How is the Blackhawk version (I have not seen it)? > > If you have a good print available to rent or loan, I am all ears. I can > pay to ship and pay a rental fee, if necessary. > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > > -- > David Dvorchak > Office Manager > Providence Community Library > ddvorc...@provcomlib.org > (401) 467-2700 x2 > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Battleship Potemkin on 16mm
I am hoping that someone on this list can help. I want to do a May Day screening of Potemkin on 16mm at our library. I own two prints, one being the 1950 Mosfilm version, which looks nice and has narration and a score but is a butcher job of the film by most accounts, and another silent print which is of unknown origin and less visually appealing. Is there an opinion on the most "authentic" or "true" version available on 16mm? How is the Blackhawk version (I have not seen it)? If you have a good print available to rent or loan, I am all ears. I can pay to ship and pay a rental fee, if necessary. Thanks, Dave -- David Dvorchak Office Manager Providence Community Library ddvorc...@provcomlib.org (401) 467-2700 x2 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
