Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

[Threatt, Monique Louise]

Well said, Susan.

Best,
Mo
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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:47 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
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Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

Monique and I actually talked about this a bit while at National Media Market.  
(Hint:  If you don’t go, YOU SHOULD!!)

While I’m one of those who feels the need to mention our school’s small size 
(925) because it helps to explain both a small budget and very modest potential 
usage, I get what Monique is saying about large school frustration.  And while 
I would continue to “argue” that large universities can more readily manage to 
build collections and provide access than can small schools, it is because of 
the size of the acquisition budget more than because of FTE.  (I mean, let’s 
face it, if we each preview and desire the same 95 films from Market, a budget 
in excess of $100K is going to be able to manage that much better than a budget 
of $20K!)  But I have begun to see the benefit of what Monique suggests in  
basing any tiered pricing on BUDGET, rather than on FTE, since FTE isn’t 
*necessarily* directly proportional to budget.

Also, many community colleges and public libraries have budgets much larger 
than mine, and yet they are often grouped together and given a substantial 
discount compared to the college/university group which contains such vastly 
differently-sized populations and budgets.  Another argument, imo, for a 
budget-based setup.

Okay, that ends my campaign for tiered pricing based upon FTE or budget, rather 
than on classification. :)

To more directly answer the original question:  our first foray into streamed 
video services were Swank’s Digital Campus and several Media Education 
Foundation titles through Kanopy.  We have since begun a (modest) step into the 
Kanopy PDA model and are anxious to see how well it is received on our campus, 
and we have a subscription to Criterion on Demand’s collection.  Beyond this, 
we simply can’t commit to streaming service, as any commitment to that format 
means a direct reduction in physical format acquisition.

Susan Albrecht
Library Media Acquisitions Manager
Graduate Fellowship Advisor
Wabash College Lilly Library
765-361-6216 (acquisitions)
765-361-6297 (fellowships)
765-361-6295 fax
albre...@wabash.edu
www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films
http://pinterest.com/wabashcolllib/

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Louise
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:23 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Cc: m...@shashwati.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

Hello,

I too agree with Deg, and Nancy’s comments.

My university subscribes to numerous platforms, many of which are mentioned 
below.

My preference is to purchase the DVD w/ perpetual streaming rights which can 
then be hosted on a local server. Otherwise, for commercial platforms, using 
either the PDA or EBA model is my first choice.

I would also like to see more independent, and studio filmmakers participate in 
future conferences to address economic ways to provide Rights to their films.

I really liked what Ana said during her presentation at Market.  To paraphrase, 
just because we are a large university does not mean that we have unlimited 
budgets to purchase streaming titles.

The idea of “tiered-pricing” really needs to be restructured.  Large 
universities continue to ‘take one for the team’ when it comes to purchasing 
documentary DVDs. We still pay the $200-400 price tag w/PPR, because we believe 
in the content, and we believe in supporting the filmmaker, and distributor.

However, it’s not a sustainable model to purchase the $300 DVD, and then be 
charged an additional annual fee of $150 to have access to its streaming 
counterpart.  There is also the concern (well, there are several) of vendors 
losing their right to distribute heavily-used documentaries.

In closing, just because a school may have nearly 50,000 students, I assure you 
that less than 10% of the student population are actually accessing the films.  
A hike in stats usually is the result of a required film course assignment.

There needs to be a better solution to lowering the cost of streaming so that 
it is affordable for all schools.  Perhaps, vendors should market their 
streaming platforms based on budget, and not FTE.

I know I’m not alone in my comments.

Best,
Monique Threatt
Indiana University Bloomington

[Videolib] National Media Market Proposed Topic Ideas for Baltimore, 2016

[Threatt, Monique Louise]

Hello,

So good to see everyone at the National Media Market.  Kudos to the Board of 
Directors for another wonderful year.

I really enjoyed our little informal get-together to express ideas to improve 
Market.

This is a friendly reminder to send your discussion ideas to Cindy 
Badilla-Melendez for possible inclusion at Market in Baltimore!  (yaaay!)

It was suggested that we have both formal, and informal discussion groups to 
address our many concerns.  It was also suggested that we bring back the hot 
topic round tables!

I know I have tons of ideas for Cindy, and I would be willing to collaborate 
with anyone to address case study use of using streaming in the classroom. :)

Here is her contact information:

Cindy Badilla-Melendez
University of St. Thomas
Mail #5004
2115 Summit Ave.
St. Paul, MN  55105
(651) 962-5464
cbadill...@stthomas.edu

Best,
Monique

Monique Threatt
Herman B Wells Library
1320 E. 10th Street
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN  47405

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Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

[Threatt, Monique Louise]

Hello,

I too agree with Deg, and Nancy’s comments.

My university subscribes to numerous platforms, many of which are mentioned 
below.

My preference is to purchase the DVD w/ perpetual streaming rights which can 
then be hosted on a local server. Otherwise, for commercial platforms, using 
either the PDA or EBA model is my first choice.

I would also like to see more independent, and studio filmmakers participate in 
future conferences to address economic ways to provide Rights to their films.

I really liked what Ana said during her presentation at Market.  To paraphrase, 
just because we are a large university does not mean that we have unlimited 
budgets to purchase streaming titles.

The idea of “tiered-pricing” really needs to be restructured.  Large 
universities continue to ‘take one for the team’ when it comes to purchasing 
documentary DVDs. We still pay the $200-400 price tag w/PPR, because we believe 
in the content, and we believe in supporting the filmmaker, and distributor.

However, it’s not a sustainable model to purchase the $300 DVD, and then be 
charged an additional annual fee of $150 to have access to its streaming 
counterpart.  There is also the concern (well, there are several) of vendors 
losing their right to distribute heavily-used documentaries.

In closing, just because a school may have nearly 50,000 students, I assure you 
that less than 10% of the student population are actually accessing the films.  
A hike in stats usually is the result of a required film course assignment.

There needs to be a better solution to lowering the cost of streaming so that 
it is affordable for all schools.  Perhaps, vendors should market their 
streaming platforms based on budget, and not FTE.

I know I’m not alone in my comments.

Best,
Monique Threatt
Indiana University Bloomington

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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Friedland
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:20 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Cc: m...@shashwati.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

I too agree. We are in the process of formulating a policy for streaming as new 
models emerge -- which has been under discussion and evaluation for many years. 
What seems to make the most sense in relation to course and research needs, 
library budget and workflow, is to move forward with database purchases (after 
careful evaluation of content) and limit title by title access for streaming 
license to those films specifically requested for course reserves as required 
viewing. This is an issue as the "curated" databases don't always include what 
is needed specifically for courses, we will need to pursue license for 
individual titles and accept that only a small but growing percentage of those 
films will we be able to obtain license for. The database packages are 
invaluable for the excellent content that continues to be in demand. I suspect 
the limited term agreements for individual titles are not sustainable in the 
long run -- whether it is locally hosted or linked to a hosting service by the 
vendor for a multitude of reasons -- budget being a major factor. I prefer in 
perpetuity but recognize that this is impossible in many cases.

Nancy

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Carla Myers 
> wrote:
I agree with everything Deg has said. While we do have subscriptions to film 
databases such as Alexander Street Press and Films on Demand I find it much 
more preferable to purchase titles on a case-by-case bases with perpetual 
streaming rights.

Best,
Carla Myers

Faculty Director of Access Services and Scholarly Communications
The Kraemer Family Library
The University of Colorado Colorado Springs
1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway
Colorado Springs, Colorado 80918
719-255-3908

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From: 
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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
 On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:22 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Cc: m...@shashwati.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service
Shashwati

I am the media librarian for a large public university.

It is my preference to be able to purchase videos directly, with streaming 
rights in perpetuity (life of file).

I know that I am not alone in this preference and that many other librarians 
that I know, do not want an access model that requires us to repeatedly re-pay 
for the same content.

We are accustomed to purchasing a DVD and owning the DVD for loan or classroom 
use.  Having to pay for a title again after one or three years (a predominant 
licensing model) saps our acquisition budgets and limits our ability to acquire 
additional new content.

Many of us have our own hosting systems.  While we may (and most of us do) 
license 

[Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Tatar, Becky]

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron 
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label 
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is 
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we add 
this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




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Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Music Hunter]

Hi Becky,

Music Hunter receives promotional CDs & DVDs from various record labels and,
subject to supply, we add them to our library clients shipments on a regular
basis at no charge.

The labels encourage this practice and so I believe libraries are free to do
what they wish with such product.

Jay

Your search for sound & video ends here!
Jay Sonin, General Manager
Music Hunter Distributing Company
4880 North Citation Drive, Suite # 101
Delray Beach, Florida 33445-6552
musichunter...@gmail.com
561-450-7152 

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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we
add this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
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Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Kankiewicz, Michael]

I believe they should not be added to your collection, nor should you sell them.


Michael Kankiewicz
Manager, Silverman Multimedia Center
116 Capen
University at Buffalo
Buffalo, NY 14260

P - (716) 645-1329
F - (716) 645-3710
e - micha...@buffalo.edu


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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron 
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label 
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is 
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we add 
this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Music Hunter]

That's interesting Michael, because your library is a Music Hunter client
and has received numerous promotional CD & DVD free samples over the years.

Jay

Your search for sound & video ends here!
Jay Sonin, General Manager
Music Hunter Distributing Company
4880 North Citation Drive, Suite # 101
Delray Beach, Florida 33445-6552
musichunter...@gmail.com
561-450-7152 

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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Kankiewicz,
Michael
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:58 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

I believe they should not be added to your collection, nor should you sell
them.


Michael Kankiewicz
Manager, Silverman Multimedia Center
116 Capen
University at Buffalo
Buffalo, NY 14260

P - (716) 645-1329
F - (716) 645-3710
e - micha...@buffalo.edu


-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we
add this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
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Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Kankiewicz, Michael]

My own opinion.  We are a large public institution.  Not everyone here always 
has the same opinion, and that's often what makes it work well.


Michael Kankiewicz
Manager, Silverman Multimedia Center
116 Capen
University at Buffalo
Buffalo, NY 14260

P - (716) 645-1329
F - (716) 645-3710
e - micha...@buffalo.edu


-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Music Hunter
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:10 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Cc: ARSC List; ml...@indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

That's interesting Michael, because your library is a Music Hunter client and 
has received numerous promotional CD & DVD free samples over the years.

Jay

Your search for sound & video ends here!
Jay Sonin, General Manager
Music Hunter Distributing Company
4880 North Citation Drive, Suite # 101
Delray Beach, Florida 33445-6552
musichunter...@gmail.com
561-450-7152 

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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Kankiewicz, Michael
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:58 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

I believe they should not be added to your collection, nor should you sell them.


Michael Kankiewicz
Manager, Silverman Multimedia Center
116 Capen
University at Buffalo
Buffalo, NY 14260

P - (716) 645-1329
F - (716) 645-3710
e - micha...@buffalo.edu


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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron 
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label 
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we
add this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
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Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

[Susan Albrecht]

Monique and I actually talked about this a bit while at National Media Market.  
(Hint:  If you don’t go, YOU SHOULD!!)

While I’m one of those who feels the need to mention our school’s small size 
(925) because it helps to explain both a small budget and very modest potential 
usage, I get what Monique is saying about large school frustration.  And while 
I would continue to “argue” that large universities can more readily manage to 
build collections and provide access than can small schools, it is because of 
the size of the acquisition budget more than because of FTE.  (I mean, let’s 
face it, if we each preview and desire the same 95 films from Market, a budget 
in excess of $100K is going to be able to manage that much better than a budget 
of $20K!)  But I have begun to see the benefit of what Monique suggests in  
basing any tiered pricing on BUDGET, rather than on FTE, since FTE isn’t 
*necessarily* directly proportional to budget.

Also, many community colleges and public libraries have budgets much larger 
than mine, and yet they are often grouped together and given a substantial 
discount compared to the college/university group which contains such vastly 
differently-sized populations and budgets.  Another argument, imo, for a 
budget-based setup.

Okay, that ends my campaign for tiered pricing based upon FTE or budget, rather 
than on classification. :)

To more directly answer the original question:  our first foray into streamed 
video services were Swank’s Digital Campus and several Media Education 
Foundation titles through Kanopy.  We have since begun a (modest) step into the 
Kanopy PDA model and are anxious to see how well it is received on our campus, 
and we have a subscription to Criterion on Demand’s collection.  Beyond this, 
we simply can’t commit to streaming service, as any commitment to that format 
means a direct reduction in physical format acquisition.

Susan Albrecht
Library Media Acquisitions Manager
Graduate Fellowship Advisor
Wabash College Lilly Library
765-361-6216 (acquisitions)
765-361-6297 (fellowships)
765-361-6295 fax
albre...@wabash.edu
www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films
http://pinterest.com/wabashcolllib/

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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Threatt, Monique 
Louise
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:23 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Cc: m...@shashwati.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

Hello,

I too agree with Deg, and Nancy’s comments.

My university subscribes to numerous platforms, many of which are mentioned 
below.

My preference is to purchase the DVD w/ perpetual streaming rights which can 
then be hosted on a local server. Otherwise, for commercial platforms, using 
either the PDA or EBA model is my first choice.

I would also like to see more independent, and studio filmmakers participate in 
future conferences to address economic ways to provide Rights to their films.

I really liked what Ana said during her presentation at Market.  To paraphrase, 
just because we are a large university does not mean that we have unlimited 
budgets to purchase streaming titles.

The idea of “tiered-pricing” really needs to be restructured.  Large 
universities continue to ‘take one for the team’ when it comes to purchasing 
documentary DVDs. We still pay the $200-400 price tag w/PPR, because we believe 
in the content, and we believe in supporting the filmmaker, and distributor.

However, it’s not a sustainable model to purchase the $300 DVD, and then be 
charged an additional annual fee of $150 to have access to its streaming 
counterpart.  There is also the concern (well, there are several) of vendors 
losing their right to distribute heavily-used documentaries.

In closing, just because a school may have nearly 50,000 students, I assure you 
that less than 10% of the student population are actually accessing the films.  
A hike in stats usually is the result of a required film course assignment.

There needs to be a better solution to lowering the cost of streaming so that 
it is affordable for all schools.  Perhaps, vendors should market their 
streaming platforms based on budget, and not FTE.

I know I’m not alone in my comments.

Best,
Monique Threatt
Indiana University Bloomington
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[Videolib] Article on Streaming Video in latest issue of Library Journal

[Deg Farrelly]

There is a long and detailed article on Streaming Video in the academy in
the latest issue of Library Journal.

In case you have not seen it:
http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2015/10/books-media/on-demand-academic-media/#
_

There is an error in the reference to Jane Hutchison and my survey (we did
not conduct the 2010 survey as indicated) but otherwise I think the
article is spot on!


-deg

deg farrelly, Streaming Video Administrator
ASU Libraries




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Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

[Bob Norris]

Interesting concept to base price on budget. If that was the case, someone with 
a green visor may come into your office saying we are going to cut your budget 
so we can get the same for less. 

If everyone sends me their budget, I could flush out the concept more  J
Bob

Robert A. Norris
Managing Director
Film Ideas, Inc.
Phone:  (847) 419-0255
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> From: "Threatt, Monique Louise" 
> Date: October 23, 2015 1:28:54 PM CDT
> To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
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> 
> Well said, Susan.
>  
> Best,
> Mo
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:47 PM
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
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> Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service
>  
> Monique and I actually talked about this a bit while at National Media 
> Market.  (Hint:  If you don’t go, YOU SHOULD!!) 
>  
> While I’m one of those who feels the need to mention our school’s small size 
> (925) because it helps to explain both a small budget and very modest 
> potential usage, I get what Monique is saying about large school frustration. 
>  And while I would continue to “argue” that large universities can more 
> readily manage to build collections and provide access than can small 
> schools, it is because of the size of the acquisition budget more than 
> because of FTE.  (I mean, let’s face it, if we each preview and desire the 
> same 95 films from Market, a budget in excess of $100K is going to be able to 
> manage that much better than a budget of $20K!)  But I have begun to see the 
> benefit of what Monique suggests in  basing any tiered pricing on BUDGET, 
> rather than on FTE, since FTE isn’t *necessarily* directly proportional to 
> budget.
>  
> Also, many community colleges and public libraries have budgets much larger 
> than mine, and yet they are often grouped together and given a substantial 
> discount compared to the college/university group which contains such vastly 
> differently-sized populations and budgets.  Another argument, imo, for a 
> budget-based setup.
>  
> Okay, that ends my campaign for tiered pricing based upon FTE or budget, 
> rather than on classification. :)
>  
> To more directly answer the original question:  our first foray into streamed 
> video services were Swank’s Digital Campus and several Media Education 
> Foundation titles through Kanopy.  We have since begun a (modest) step into 
> the Kanopy PDA model and are anxious to see how well it is received on our 
> campus, and we have a subscription to Criterion on Demand’s collection.  
> Beyond this, we simply can’t commit to streaming service, as any commitment 
> to that format means a direct reduction in physical format acquisition.
>  
> Susan Albrecht
> Library Media Acquisitions Manager
> Graduate Fellowship Advisor
> Wabash College Lilly Library
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> ***
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>  
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
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> Louise
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> Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I too agree with Deg, and Nancy’s comments.
>  
> My university subscribes to numerous platforms, many of which are mentioned 
> below. 
>  
> My preference is to purchase the DVD w/ perpetual streaming rights which can 
> then be hosted on a local server. Otherwise, for commercial platforms, using 
> either the PDA or EBA model is my first choice.
>  
> I would also like to 

[Videolib] black and white 16 mm , etc

[fellini49]

Dear Media Friends,
 
We have a 16 mm collection of about eight hundred films which have not fared 
well over the years because of lack of use 
 
and less than favorable temperature conditions.
 
Does it make sense that the b/w would have fared better than the color films?
 
Thanks for your help. And, I will be going to the Digest for 16 mm 
preservation, in general.



Regards, 
 
Lisa
 
 
Lisa Flanzraich
Media and Reference Librarian
Benjamin S. Rosenthal Library
Queens College
65-30 Kissena Blvd.
Flushing , NY 11367
718-997-3673
Room 344


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Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[McGeary, Bryan James]

Hi Becky, 

I'm inclined to think that the ruling in UMG v. Augusto would allow you to add 
it to your collection or sell it if you wished. 

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2011/01/04/08-55998.pdf 
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2011/01/07/132744291/for-promotional-use-only-not-for-resale-oh-yes-it-is

Best,
Bryan
_
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Library Specialist, Stark Media Services
G-22 Hillman Library | University of Pittsburgh
Tel: 412-648-5930 | bjm...@pitt.edu
uls-starkmediaservi...@mail.pitt.edu
ORCID: -0001-7197-0862

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu  
on behalf of Tatar, Becky 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron 
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label 
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is 
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we add 
this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Bergman, Barbara J]

Your choice.
I generally don't add promo copies, but do send them to book sale.

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron 
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label 
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is 
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we add 
this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




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distributors.

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Re: [Videolib] RFID Stingray overlays

[Peggy Trout]

Hi Karen,
We moved to an RFID system this summer which included tagging our DVD 
collection with stingray tags.  What a mistake!  We are now in the 
process of removing the stingrays and replacing them with book tags 
inside the cover artwork.  To answer your questions:

1.  Stingrays are easy to apply and difficult to remove.
2.  We are in the process of removing the stingrays from all our dvds.  
They are difficult to remove cleanly.  They leave a sticky residue and 
often lift off the graphics and coating on the discs. Many discs have 
been ruined in the removal process.

3.  No patrons have removed the tags.
4.  Two or more dvds with sting rays stacked on each other will NOT be 
detected by our EnvisionWare door gates.  EnvisionWare claims their 
gates are working properly and their criteria for proper function is to 
detect only a single DVD going through it.
5.  Double sided discs have book tags placed inside the artwork. This 
works well and is the tagging method we are using as we remove stingrays.
6.  Yes, in fact we have had two patrons' DVD players and 1 computer 
ruined by discs with stingray discs becoming permanently stuck in their 
player.  We now post big red signs throughout our DVD collection warning 
people of the problem.


Our library's experience with stingray has been very frustrating.  I 
would be happy to discuss any other details of our experience if you 
have questions.

Peggy Trout

Peggy Trout
Head of Circulation Services
Rochester Public Library
65 South Main Street
Rochester, NH 03867
(603)332-1428
peggy.tr...@rpl.lib.nh.us

On 10/21/2015 12:06 PM, kfisc...@mrcpl.org wrote:


Hi, I'm hoping to tap into the vast knowledge and experience available 
amongst videolibbers.


Our library system is investigating moving to RFID from our current 
system.  Does anyone use the Stingray tags on their discs? If so, 
could you email me answers to these questions?


1)How hard are they to apply?

2)Have you had many discs ruined by the removal or attempted removal 
of the tags?


3)Have customers removed the tags and applied them to blank or "old" 
discs and returned those instead of the library disc?


4)I've read that too many tags stacked can negate the reader's ability 
to sense the tags.  How do you deal with multi-disc cases.


5)How do you deal with double-sided discs?

6)Have customers reported difficulties playing discs with the Stingray 
tag on them?


Any other information of real-life usage would be helpful.

Thanks,

Karen Fischer

Collection Development Librarian

Mansfield Richland County Public Library

43 West 3rd Street

Mansfield, OH  44902



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Re: [Videolib] RFID Stingray overlays

[Tatar, Becky]

Like the old line says – JUST SAY NO!  We are using Biblioteca’s DVD 
dispensers.  Somehow, through a massive miscommunication, and we are not sure 
where on the chain it started,  we started using stingray covers on our DVDs.  
For our nonfiction, no problem – they aren’t in the dispensers.  Why we had to 
have them on the discs going into the dispensers, I don’t know.  The dispensers 
ARE the theft deterrent.  So, 2/3rds of the way through tagging our feature 
films, we get told to stop.  So, about 1/3rd of our features have no tags, the 
scanners don’t always read the tags, and with the software upgrade, sometimes 
don’t even want to read the barcode.  And, discs were getting stuck in the 
dispensers, causing all kinds of problems.  Also, apparently you can’t tag all 
the discs in the case if they are on top of each other.  If the case allows 
them to be staggered, that might help, but we have had all kinds of problems 
with discs not scanning.  So, now we are in the 4th month of waiting for 
equipment upgrades on some of our dispensers, so that the discs won’t stick.  
And we still have the problem of discs not dispensing, and going into dispenser 
limbo.  Sigh.

Now, in response to your questions, since I finished my rant, ☺


1 Not difficult to apply, but a pain to remove.  If you are 
lucky, and the stingray doesn’t strip off any of the label, you can use goo 
gone, or alcohol to try to remove any sticky residue.  I have had great luck 
with hand sanitizer.

2 We have only had a couple of cases found that have had 
the stingray removed.  Our nonfiction is all tagged, and while most of our 
feature films and tv shows are in the dispensers, foreign films, old movies and 
old tv shows are not.

3 Patrons switching tags – no

4 Multi disc cases – we tagged only the first and last 
disc, and as I said above, if the discs in the cases are right on top of each 
other, that can screw up the scanner.

5 Double sided discs – donut hole tags on one side.

6 I don’t think we have gotten many complaints on the 
stingrays messing up the DVD players or computers.  If we have gotten any 
complaints, they are few and far between.

Hope this all helps.

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of kfisc...@mrcpl.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:07 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] RFID Stingray overlays


Hi, I'm hoping to tap into the vast knowledge and experience available amongst 
videolibbers.

Our library system is investigating moving to RFID from our current system.  
Does anyone use the Stingray tags on their discs? If so, could you email me 
answers to these questions?



1)How hard are they to apply?

2)Have you had many discs ruined by the removal or attempted removal of the 
tags?

3)Have customers removed the tags and applied them to blank or "old" discs and 
returned those instead of the library disc?

4)I've read that too many tags stacked can negate the reader's ability to sense 
the tags.  How do you deal with multi-disc cases.

5)How do you deal with double-sided discs?

6)Have customers reported difficulties playing discs with the Stingray tag on 
them?



Any other information of real-life usage would be helpful.



Thanks,

Karen Fischer

Collection Development Librarian

Mansfield Richland County Public Library

43 West 3rd Street

Mansfield, OH  44902
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Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Threatt, Monique Louise]

Same here, Barb.

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:54 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Your choice.
I generally don't add promo copies, but do send them to book sale.

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

Hi, all,

This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron 
donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label 
indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer is 
prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can we add 
this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org




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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs

[Jeanne Little]

We will add a promo DVD or CD if the content is something we feel fits out
collection.

We do not, however, place any of these in our book sale that state they are
not for resale.

Jeanne Little

-- 
Rod Library - Room 250
Resource Management/Collections Unit
Content Discovery Division
University of Northern Iowa
Cedar Falls, IA  50614-3675
319-273-7255

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Bergman, Barbara J <
barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu> wrote:

> Your choice.
> I generally don't add promo copies, but do send them to book sale.
>
> Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota
> State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:41 AM
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: [Videolib] Promotional DVDs and CDs
>
> Hi, all,
>
> This probably has been discussed before, but I can't remember.  A patron
> donated several DVDs and CDs that had been distributed and have a label
> indicating that "Item is for promotional use only, sale or other transfer
> is prohibited, must be returned on demand of the recording company."   Can
> we add this type of material, or is it destined for our booksale?
>
> Becky Tatar
> Periodicals/Audiovisuals
> Aurora Public Library
> 101 S. River Street
> Aurora, IL   60506
> Phone: 630-264-4116
> FAX: 630-896-3209
> blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
> www.aurorapubliclibrary.org
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
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> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
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> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
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Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

[Threatt, Monique Louise]

Hi Bob,

I know the topic is not a popular one among certain groups, but for many media 
librarians, it is an issue that I hope we can address in the near future.

I'd be interested to know, off-line, how many media librarians have received a 
substantial budget increase within the past two-to-five years.

Good weekend, all.

Best,
Mo

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Norris
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:32 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

Interesting concept to base price on budget. If that was the case, someone with 
a green visor may come into your office saying we are going to cut your budget 
so we can get the same for less.

If everyone sends me their budget, I could flush out the concept more  J
Bob

Robert A. Norris
Managing Director
Film Ideas, Inc.
Phone:   (847) 419-0255
Email:b...@filmideas.com
Web:   www.filmideas.com

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From: "Threatt, Monique Louise" 
>
Date: October 23, 2015 1:28:54 PM CDT
To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
>
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>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service
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Well said, Susan.

Best,
Mo
From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:47 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Cc: m...@shashwati.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

Monique and I actually talked about this a bit while at National Media Market.  
(Hint:  If you don't go, YOU SHOULD!!)

While I'm one of those who feels the need to mention our school's small size 
(925) because it helps to explain both a small budget and very modest potential 
usage, I get what Monique is saying about large school frustration.  And while 
I would continue to "argue" that large universities can more readily manage to 
build collections and provide access than can small schools, it is because of 
the size of the acquisition budget more than because of FTE.  (I mean, let's 
face it, if we each preview and desire the same 95 films from Market, a budget 
in excess of $100K is going to be able to manage that much better than a budget 
of $20K!)  But I have begun to see the benefit of what Monique suggests in  
basing any tiered pricing on BUDGET, rather than on FTE, since FTE isn't 
*necessarily* directly proportional to budget.

Also, many community colleges and public libraries have budgets much larger 
than mine, and yet they are often grouped together and given a substantial 
discount compared to the college/university group which contains such vastly 
differently-sized populations and budgets.  Another argument, imo, for a 
budget-based setup.

Okay, that ends my campaign for tiered pricing based upon FTE or budget, rather 
than on classification. :)

To more directly answer the original question:  our first foray into streamed 
video services were Swank's Digital Campus and several Media Education 
Foundation titles through Kanopy.  We have since begun a (modest) step into the 
Kanopy PDA model and are anxious to see how well it is received on our campus, 
and we have a subscription to Criterion on Demand's collection.  Beyond this, 
we simply can't commit to streaming service, as any commitment to that format 
means a direct reduction in physical format acquisition.

Susan Albrecht
Library Media Acquisitions Manager
Graduate Fellowship Advisor
Wabash College Lilly Library
765-361-6216 (acquisitions)
765-361-6297 (fellowships)
765-361-6295 fax