[Videolib] Streaming Distribution w/o Educational Availability -- Conf. Call 12/13 or 12/16?

[Meghann Matwichuk]

Hi All,

Meredith Miller and I are hoping to host a conference call next week 
(either Tuesday 12/13 or Friday 12/16) for those interested in 
participating in a discussion about how we can best move forward on the 
issue of educational availability advocacy for media librarians & 
vendors.  If you would like to participate, please visit this link and 
indicate your availability (times are ET):


http://doodle.com/poll/nfr6q7dppcvndfrt

If you are hoping to attend, please indicate your availability by 4pm ET 
this Friday, 12/9.  We'll choose the date / time with the greatest 
availability for interested participants.  Make note of call-in 
instructions on the site.


Please note: we plan to do our best to keep the meeting to 1 hour.

Thank you,

--

Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475
https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo



On 12/2/2016 3:23 PM, Meghann Matwichuk wrote:


Thanks, all, for the ideas and input!  And yes, I do understand that 
there are different rights complications depending on whether or not 
Amazon / Netflix has produced the content or not.  I do realize this 
is a tall order and may not (or may not be likely to) result in DVD 
availability.  But from what I've gathered so far, raising awareness 
of the fact that these companies (and the content producers, in cases 
where they are not the distributors) are leaving money on the table 
and prohibiting content from being seen in certain environments is the 
first hurdle, so crafting some kind of statement in this area with a 
goal towards publicizing it seems like a good place to start.


I agree that a conference call could be useful to begin the process, 
and would be available for one next week or the week after, in case it 
takes some time to pull together.  Meredith, are you able to 
facilitate?  I could help with the scheduling by putting together a 
Doodle poll that folks could use to indicate interest and 
availability; just let me know.


An interesting idea from Elizabeth at Bullfrog Films is that we could 
provide examples of several of the companies who regularly work with 
educational rights (as Mat described) who could serve as models / 
references for the process in the case of those film and / or music 
producers who are simply unaware and don't know where to start.


--

Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475
https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo

On 12/2/2016 11:37 AM, meredith miller wrote:
I love this idea! I've been pursuing this on individual basis with 
both Netflix and Amazon. My argument has been that this type of 
licensing is another potential revenue stream that they are not 
considering. I think there is a general misunderstanding about the 
educational licensing market and the value that it has - so I think 
educating them on who we are and why we are important is crucial.


I'm happy to dive into this! I think it would be good to discuss 
strategy first. Is anyone interested in a conference call early next 
week?


Meredith

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Susan Albrecht > wrote:


I think these are genius ideas from Meghann.  I especially like
the idea of a joint letter from VRT and NMM and having an “all
set” statement with many signatures ready to attach to an email
we’re sending.

So who’s the drafter? ;)

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Educational Availability

I like the idea of a petition.  Who would we target?  Amazon
(Prime) and Netflix seem to be the primary 'offenders' right
now.  (But there are individual / self-distributors who are also
only selling to individuals via stream.)

Another possibility -- maybe a joint letter from VRT and NMM?

Mered

Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational Availability

[Kristin Cooney]

Thanks Mat! Chiming in with my two cents about the below. You are correct that 
Netflix typically doesn’t hold EDU rights for their straight acquisitions (they 
just impose some SERIOUS holdbacks), but this not the case for their Originals. 
For their Originals acquisitions, they take all rights, including educational. 
In the case of Audrie and Daisy, Netflix has the educational rights, and chose 
to work with Film Sprout to make the film available for classroom use for free. 
But as we all know, they have left out a crucial audience & licensing option 
that leaves many institutions without the access they need/want. Which is why 
this exact movement is so great!

I look forward to seeing this progress!!

Best,

Kristin


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On Dec 2, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Mathew Levy  wrote:

> Hello Team Videolib:
> 
> I think the issue here is not Netflix at all or FilmSprout who typically just 
> handles community screenings. 
> 
> Netflix does NOT hold EDU rights and doesn't seem to plan to at this point. I 
> had lunch with my buyer at Netflix 2 weeks ago and discussed this with him 
> specifically. If you want a film for EDU, the best method would be to contact 
> either the filmmaker specifically or a distributor who can help acquire the 
> film for your library.
> 
> An example of how this worked out perfectly was via a VideoLib post last year 
> when a librarian was looking for the Netflix title MY OWN MAN.
> 
> I had never heard of the film before, but after seeing a high interest from 
> libraries, found the filmmaker and acquired the rights directly, so I can 
> offer to libraries. Our company can easily make that contact as well as most 
> distributors on this e-mail chain.
> 
> We have worked with other Ava Duvernay documentaries in the past, so right 
> now I am in the process of contacting her production company to speak with 
> them directly about the high interest from educators. Hopefully, I can be an 
> outlet to help get the title offered to you if they don't have a company 
> locked in to do so yet. If they do, I will let you all know.  No promises, 
> just an e-mail and a phone call for now, but on the case!
> 
> Have a great weekend everyone!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mat
> 
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Meghann Matwichuk  wrote:
> I like the idea of a petition.  Who would we target?  Amazon (Prime) and 
> Netflix seem to be the primary 'offenders' right now.  (But there are 
> individual / self-distributors who are also only selling to individuals via 
> stream.)
> 
> Another possibility -- maybe a joint letter from VRT and NMM?  
> 
> Meredith and other vendor allies -- what do you think would be a good way for 
> those of us interested in making a joint statement to get the attention of 
> the right folks?
> 
> Alternately, it might be helpful to attach something like the joint letter or 
> a statement with a giant gob of signatories when we're all individually 
> contacting distributors.  Like, keep it on your desktop and just clip it to 
> any of these individual emails we might send when we advocate for educational 
> distribution.  "You might be interested to know that there are many who are 
> concerned about this issue, and are interested in purchasing hard copies and 
> educational licenses.  Please see the attached letter."
> 
> -- 
> 
> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
> Associate Librarian
> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
> Morris Library, University of Delaware
> 181 S. College Ave.
> Newark, DE 19717
> (302) 831-1475
> https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
> 
> On 12/2/2016 10:29 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’m happy to add my voice.  Is there a group letter writing option?  
>> Change.org post?  Blog post option?  I may be able to help with the tech for 
>> this.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Once again, Ava DuVernay has gotten the ball rolling on an important topic.  
>> Why not keep it rolling?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Laura
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Laura Jenemann
>> 
>> Media, Film Studies & Dance Librarian
>> 
>> George Mason University Libraries
>> 
>> Email: ljene...@gmu.edu
>> 
>> Phone: 703-993-7593
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Wochna, Lorraine
>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:05 PM
>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational 
>> Availability
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Meghann,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for such a thorough response. 
>> 
>> Yes, I agree and will challenge these distributors as well!
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> lorraine
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
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