Re: [Videolib] Big Picture Cataloging Advice

2012-04-20 Thread Bergman, Barbara J
OLAC (Online Audiovisual Catalogers, Inc) 
www.olacinc.orghttp://www.olacinc.org  should have some tips for you.

This article I co-wrote with our AV cataloger might be helpful:
Video Collecting for the Sometimes Media Librarian: Tips and Tricks for 
Selecting, Purchasing, and Cataloging Videos for an Academic Library.
By: Bergman, Barb; Peters, Victoria; Jessica Schomberg. College  Undergraduate 
Libraries, 2007, Vol. 14 Issue 1, p57-77, 21p, 1 Chart; DOI: 
10.1300/J106v14n01-05

Good luck in filling the position.
~Barb


Barb Bergman | Media Services  Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu

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[Videolib] Big Picture Cataloging Advice

2012-04-17 Thread Mary Hanlin
Hi Videolibbers,

I have a brooding sense that I really am about to ask a pretty dumb question, 
but this is generally a fairly forgiving listserv. So here it is:  our 
cataloger (i.e. mainly, our media cataloger) has just retired.  It's never an 
expeditious process here to get a position filled (I'm thinking 6 months).  In 
the meantime, we're continuing to receive media.  In terms of cataloging 
knowledge, the rest of the librarians (including myself) are worthless, and 
though we have a paraprofessional she does only copy cataloging and no media.  
So, do I have any other options besides waiting? I know a lot of places 
(Midwest for example) provide MaRC records, but in truth I'm hoping there might 
exist something more robust.  If not, is it worth the effort for someone here 
to learn media cataloging if in all likelihood they'll be replacement for my 
retired colleague... eventually.

PS -I think they do a consistently weak job of teaching cataloging (in library 
school), but I also blame myself for not taking it seriously enough.

Mary Hanlin
Media Collection Development Librarian
Tidewater Community College
120 Campus Drive
Portsmouth, VA 23701
P: 757.822.2133
F: 757.822.2149
mhan...@tcc.edu



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Re: [Videolib] Big Picture Cataloging Advice

2012-04-17 Thread Helen P. Mack
I think it depends on the volume of your ordering and the level of 
demand for immediate use.  If a WorldCat/Connexion record is poor or 
non-existent, we do quick-and-dirty cataloging with the best record 
that can be found -- just enough to be able to identify it and charge it 
out.  When there is a lull in the demand, you can get it back and do a 
more thorough job.


You might consider getting your videos from Midwest Tape or Action! 
Library Media Service.  We do not use either one at this time, but it is 
my understanding that both companies supply catalog records.


Don't call yourself worthless, but since you are Media Collection 
Development, it would serve you well to know the basics in terms of 
cataloging policies  practices.  Your retiree's replacement will likely 
need someone to consult.


And you're right: I wanted to be a cataloger when I was in library 
school back in the 1970s.  The instruction back then was terrible, and 
perhaps it is even worse now.  This is unfortunate: cataloging is a 
really important job but not a very sexy one.  It's a wonder that any 
new graduates want to do it.


On 4/17/2012 10:48 AM, Mary Hanlin wrote:


Hi Videolibbers,

I have a brooding sense that I really am about to ask a pretty dumb 
question, but this is generally a fairly forgiving listserv. So here 
it is:  our cataloger (i.e. mainly, our media cataloger) has just 
retired.  It's never an expeditious process here to get a position 
filled (I'm thinking 6 months).  In the meantime, we're continuing to 
receive media.  In terms of cataloging knowledge, the rest of the 
librarians (including myself) are worthless, and though we have a 
paraprofessional she does only copy cataloging and no media.  So, do I 
have any other options besides waiting? I know a lot of places 
(Midwest for example) provide MaRC records, but in truth I'm hoping 
there might exist something more robust.  If not, is it worth the 
effort for someone here to learn media cataloging if in all likelihood 
they'll be replacement for my retired colleague... eventually.


PS --I think they do a consistently weak job of teaching cataloging 
(in library school), but I also blame myself for not taking it 
seriously enough.


Mary Hanlin

Media Collection Development Librarian

Tidewater Community College

120 Campus Drive

Portsmouth, VA 23701

P: 757.822.2133

F: 757.822.2149

mhan...@tcc.edu



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Re: [Videolib] Big Picture Cataloging Advice

2012-04-17 Thread Mike Tribby
Ah, a video cataloging question; where to begin?

These are heady days in cataloging. The Library of Congress has announced that 
they are changing to the new cataloging rules titled RDA (for Resource 
Description and Access) after years of following the current AACR2r 
(Anglo-American Cataloging Rules, 2nd edition, revised) rules. As its title 
implies, AACR2 followed AACR1, though of course the 1 was merely implied 
until 2 came along. RDA changes--or attempts to change--the entire 
perspective of how cataloging is undertaken. The fact that LC is changing to 
RDA means all of their cataloging output will be in RDA format beginning April 
1, 2013. Until then LC is outputting both AACR and RDA records with RDA 
gradually replacing AACR-- or so the plan is.

For book cataloging LC's change means libraries will either have to change to 
RDA or start doing a good bit more fiddling with LC-supplied records. But since 
LC is hardly a prolific producer of cataloging records for videos, this factor 
won't be as important for video collections, but if media cataloging goes the 
way of book cataloging, academic libraries, research libraries, and large 
public libraries seem most likely to adopt RDA. Therefore, depending on your 
cataloging needs, your next media cataloger may well need to be trained in RDA. 
FWIW LC's video cataloging output follows archival cataloging rules which 
aren't specifically designed for circulating collections.

Which brings me to the state of library school cataloging education.
From the original poster: PS -I think they do a consistently weak job of 
teaching cataloging (in library school)

Perhaps not surprisingly, many catalogers agree with the above statement. In my 
case I had two very good cataloging instructors 20 years ago at the University 
of Iowa, but it can be an overwhelmingly technical and detail-oriented course 
of study. Two problems with the teaching of cataloging in 2012 are that not 
that many library schools do it (it's not required at most library schools 
anymore), and that we're emerging from a period of uncertainty--sometimes 
resembling a pitched battle--about adopting RDA or not, and this comes after 
several previous years of debate, argument, and turmoil in the cataloging world 
during the writing of RDA. RDA is a product of committee development, and it 
tends to show in the writing.

I like Helen Mack's suggestion as far as a practical approach:
I think it depends on the volume of your ordering and the level of demand for 
immediate use.  If a WorldCat/Connexion record is poor or non-existent, we do 
quick-and-dirty cataloging with the best record that can be found -- just 
enough to be able to identify it and charge it out.  When there is a lull in 
the demand, you can get it back and do a more thorough job.

Assuming you are not required to load your records to a consortium or utility 
that has unattainable technical requirements, this sort of record might 
function well enough in your local system, but the danger is that you'll 
accumulate quite a backlog in need of more attention. I also like Helen's 
suggestion of seeking out a vendor that will provide cataloging for your 
acquisitions. We do that, but we don't have the selection that Midwest has. We 
encounter Midwest's records on OCLC fairly frequently, and they know what 
they're doing. In fact, you could probably pick up some tips on how to fill out 
your local records by looking at records in OCLC.

Also from Helen Mack:
The instruction back then was terrible, and perhaps it is even worse now.  
This is unfortunate: cataloging is a really important job but not a very sexy 
one.  It's a wonder that any new graduates want to do it.

It hasn't gotten any sexier, thought the RDA/AACR battles have made the 
listservs more interesting or at least incendiary. RDA is touted as allowing 
library cataloging to interact better on the Semantic Web, which will be 
quite a boon if the semantic web ever becomes a reality, but in any case RDA 
does have a more information science-oriented application and is less 
library-centric (some catalogers think this is a good idea, others disagree). I 
would suggest looking for a job applicant with a strong database/info sci 
background and an MLS. The specific cataloging training can be picked up 
through online discussions and utilizing resources mentioned frequently on 
cataloging discussion lists like Autocat and OLAC-L (OnLine Audiovisual 
Catalogers electronic discussion list).

Bottomline: ask the applicants if they know anything about RDA.



Mike Tribby
Senior Cataloger
Quality Books Inc.
The Best of America's Independent Presses

mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com




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