Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
Thanks all. Disability Services is swamped enough that I didn't want them spending time on this if it wasn't necessary. (Don't get me started on the fun games was to whether captioning is actually viewable in each classroom via a projector...) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
I believe that, technically, permission must be sought... Don't think the ADA makes provisions for doing this without such. Check out: (legal opinion, State of California) Option 2 Obtain Permission to Caption Audiovisual Materials If a closed-captioned version of the needed video is unavailable from the publisher, the next best option is to request permission from the copyright owner to caption the video. It is important that you obtain written permission to caption the video. You should not interpret a lack of response from the copyright holder as permission to caption. Gary Handman I just saw a memo for our system counsel that struck me as wrong, but need some backing evidence. It is telling the Office of Disability Services to ask permission from distributors before creating an open captioned version of films. My understanding is that this is allowed under ADA and that no permission is needed. Right? (Contacting the distributor to find out if there is perhaps a captioned version available, yes. Permission, no.) Captioning is only being added to videos where there is a hearing-impaired student enrolled in the class. (And only on legally acquired -i.e. purchased-videos.) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
This basically involves making a copy, right? Matt __ Matt Ball Media Services Librarian University of Virginia mattb...@virginia.edu 434-924-3812 -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:23 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor? I believe that, technically, permission must be sought... Don't think the ADA makes provisions for doing this without such. Check out: (legal opinion, State of California) Option 2 Obtain Permission to Caption Audiovisual Materials If a closed-captioned version of the needed video is unavailable from the publisher, the next best option is to request permission from the copyright owner to caption the video. It is important that you obtain written permission to caption the video. You should not interpret a lack of response from the copyright holder as permission to caption. Gary Handman I just saw a memo for our system counsel that struck me as wrong, but need some backing evidence. It is telling the Office of Disability Services to ask permission from distributors before creating an open captioned version of films. My understanding is that this is allowed under ADA and that no permission is needed. Right? (Contacting the distributor to find out if there is perhaps a captioned version available, yes. Permission, no.) Captioning is only being added to videos where there is a hearing-impaired student enrolled in the class. (And only on legally acquired -i.e. purchased-videos.) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
Gallaudet U which is in the Washington Research Library Consortium with AU was given a special exception by Congress to caption films without permission. However because of that they are barred from loaning those videos to anyone but their students. Though costly I'd think the one-time spontaneous use language in the Fair Use guidelines would seem to cover it assuming this was needed for a single user in a single class. Our Disability Services office has done that and then destroyed the captioned video after that semester. Expensive yes but probably cheaper than the cost of hunting down a copyright holder for a one-time use. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: I believe that, technically, permission must be sought... Don't think the ADA makes provisions for doing this without such. Check out: (legal opinion, State of California) Option 2 Obtain Permission to Caption Audiovisual Materials If a closed-captioned version of the needed video is unavailable from the publisher, the next best option is to request permission from the copyright owner to caption the video. It is important that you obtain written permission to caption the video. You should not interpret a lack of response from the copyright holder as permission to caption. Gary Handman I just saw a memo for our system counsel that struck me as wrong, but need some backing evidence. It is telling the Office of Disability Services to ask permission from distributors before creating an open captioned version of films. My understanding is that this is allowed under ADA and that no permission is needed. Right? (Contacting the distributor to find out if there is perhaps a captioned version available, yes. Permission, no.) Captioning is only being added to videos where there is a hearing-impaired student enrolled in the class. (And only on legally acquired -i.e. purchased-videos.) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Chris Lewis Media Librarian American University Library 202.885.3257 For latest Media Services News: Blog: http://aulibmedia.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-University-Library-Media-Services/132559226823103 Twitter: http://twitter.com/aulibmedia Please think twice before printing this e-mail. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
Maybe I am naive but I would think most films being used in classes are not that hard to track down rights holders. Do many of them say no? I remember getting the forms back in the day. My only problem is that while I had no problem allowing the CC , did not have any transcript that could be used. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Chris Lewis cle...@american.edu wrote: Gallaudet U which is in the Washington Research Library Consortium with AU was given a special exception by Congress to caption films without permission. However because of that they are barred from loaning those videos to anyone but their students. Though costly I'd think the one-time spontaneous use language in the Fair Use guidelines would seem to cover it assuming this was needed for a single user in a single class. Our Disability Services office has done that and then destroyed the captioned video after that semester. Expensive yes but probably cheaper than the cost of hunting down a copyright holder for a one-time use. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: I believe that, technically, permission must be sought... Don't think the ADA makes provisions for doing this without such. Check out: (legal opinion, State of California) Option 2 Obtain Permission to Caption Audiovisual Materials If a closed-captioned version of the needed video is unavailable from the publisher, the next best option is to request permission from the copyright owner to caption the video. It is important that you obtain written permission to caption the video. You should not interpret a lack of response from the copyright holder as permission to caption. Gary Handman I just saw a memo for our system counsel that struck me as wrong, but need some backing evidence. It is telling the Office of Disability Services to ask permission from distributors before creating an open captioned version of films. My understanding is that this is allowed under ADA and that no permission is needed. Right? (Contacting the distributor to find out if there is perhaps a captioned version available, yes. Permission, no.) Captioning is only being added to videos where there is a hearing-impaired student enrolled in the class. (And only on legally acquired -i.e. purchased-videos.) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Chris Lewis Media Librarian American University Library 202.885.3257 For latest Media Services News: Blog: http://aulibmedia.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-University-Library-Media-Services/132559226823103 Twitter: http://twitter.com/aulibmedia Please think twice before printing this e-mail. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions,
Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
Gary, Barb, et al, Several colleges and universities have contacted Bullfrog Films for permission to caption a video when there is no closed-captioned version available. We often provide a transcript of the program to assist in this process. Now most new DVD titles from Bullfrog Films have SDH captions: subtitled for the deaf and hearing impaired. Please contact us for further details. Elizabeth Bullfrog Films -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:23 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor? I believe that, technically, permission must be sought... Don't think the ADA makes provisions for doing this without such. Check out: (legal opinion, State of California) Option 2 Obtain Permission to Caption Audiovisual Materials If a closed-captioned version of the needed video is unavailable from the publisher, the next best option is to request permission from the copyright owner to caption the video. It is important that you obtain written permission to caption the video. You should not interpret a lack of response from the copyright holder as permission to caption. Gary Handman I just saw a memo for our system counsel that struck me as wrong, but need some backing evidence. It is telling the Office of Disability Services to ask permission from distributors before creating an open captioned version of films. My understanding is that this is allowed under ADA and that no permission is needed. Right? (Contacting the distributor to find out if there is perhaps a captioned version available, yes. Permission, no.) Captioning is only being added to videos where there is a hearing-impaired student enrolled in the class. (And only on legally acquired -i.e. purchased-videos.) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
I personally receive requests from time to time asking for an okay to caption a film that isn't already captioned (especially within California), and I always approve them. I usually get a fax or an e-mail asking me to sign and return the permission form.. Dina Robinson California Newsreel 500 Third Street, #505 San Francisco, CA 94107 Phone: 415.284.7800 x301 Fax: 415.284.7801 d...@newsreel.org blocked::mailto:d...@newsreel.org http://www.newsreel.org http://www.newsreel.org/ California Newsreel is the oldest non-profit, social issue documentary film distribution center in the country and a leading resource for the advancement of racial and social justice. Visit our website at: www.newsreel.org and sign up for our e-newsletter at: http://www.newsreel.org/nav/emaillist.asp From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:24 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor? I just saw a memo for our system counsel that struck me as wrong, but need some backing evidence. It is telling the Office of Disability Services to ask permission from distributors before creating an open captioned version of films. My understanding is that this is allowed under ADA and that no permission is needed. Right? (Contacting the distributor to find out if there is perhaps a captioned version available, yes. Permission, no.) Captioning is only being added to videos where there is a hearing-impaired student enrolled in the class. (And only on legally acquired -i.e. purchased-videos.) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor?
Yes, most distributors should be fine with that. As another producer/distributor weighing in, we almost always give the okay if a college or university wants to create an open-captioned version for circulation within their school. We also have transcripts to help. Kind of a no-brainer, I think. Alex Alexandra Peterson | Marketing Coordinator Media Education Foundation 60 Masonic Street | Northampton, MA 01060 TEL: 413.584.8500 x2205 | FAX: 413.586.8398 Find MEF on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube! On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Elizabeth Stanley wrote: Gary, Barb, et al, Several colleges and universities have contacted Bullfrog Films for permission to caption a video when there is no closed-captioned version available. We often provide a transcript of the program to assist in this process. Now most new DVD titles from Bullfrog Films have SDH captions: subtitled for the deaf and hearing impaired. Please contact us for further details. Elizabeth Bullfrog Films -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:23 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Captioning - Is permission required from distributor? I believe that, technically, permission must be sought... Don't think the ADA makes provisions for doing this without such. Check out: (legal opinion, State of California) Option 2 Obtain Permission to Caption Audiovisual Materials If a closed-captioned version of the needed video is unavailable from the publisher, the next best option is to request permission from the copyright owner to caption the video. It is important that you obtain written permission to caption the video. You should not interpret a lack of response from the copyright holder as permission to caption. Gary Handman I just saw a memo for our system counsel that struck me as wrong, but need some backing evidence. It is telling the Office of Disability Services to ask permission from distributors before creating an open captioned version of films. My understanding is that this is allowed under ADA and that no permission is needed. Right? (Contacting the distributor to find out if there is perhaps a captioned version available, yes. Permission, no.) Captioning is only being added to videos where there is a hearing-impaired student enrolled in the class. (And only on legally acquired -i.e. purchased-videos.) Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
