Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
In response to the Groupon suggestion and Gary's query, Filmakers Library would love to participate. We'll put our heads together and come up with a specific offer either for NMM or before, but consider us interested! Linda On Jul 1, 2011, at 2:22 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from Icarus, Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from WMM, and whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie distributors Gary I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity Fair profile on Groupon. I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. I am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica reached a similar conclusion at the same time: Just a thought experiment here... I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering prices would not necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give us video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service for Indies/educational media. Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of Bees is $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any given point, and only once a year. Open to all filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). Thoughts? -Scott -- Scott Spicer Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities 341 Walter Library spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Linda Gottesman Filmakers Library, Inc. 124 E 40th Street NY, NY 10016 212-808-4980 li...@filmakers.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
I would be happy to organize some kind of offer at NMM! Ursula Schwarz National Media Market P.O. Box 87410 Tucson, AZ 85754-7410 (520) 743-7735 http://www.nmm.net/ From: "Peterson, Erika Day - petersed" Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:50:59 + To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. Maybe distributor's interested in the experiment could make some Groupon type offers available at NMM? E * * * * * * Erika Peterson Director of Media Resources Carrier Library, James Madison University (540) 568-6770 http://www.lib.jmu.edu/media On 7/1/11 2:44 PM, "ghand...@library.berkeley.edu" wrote: >Jon > >You can't organize 100 to do ANYTHING, let alone do it next week. > >gary > > >> Dear Scott & Gary >> >> Sure! If you can organize 100 libraries to order our (new! Great!) BEES >> film >> next week, we will gladly meet your price. >> >> Best >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:22 PM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. >> >> I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from >> Icarus, >> Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from WMM, and >> whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie distributors >> >> Gary >> >> >> >>> I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity >>> Fair profile on Groupon. >>> >>> I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with >>> current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full >>> price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do >>> think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: >>> >>>> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >>>> I >>>> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica >>>> reached a similar conclusion at the same time: >>>> >>>> Just a thought experiment here... >>>> >>>> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >>>> collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >>>> lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering >>>> prices would not >>>> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta >>>>give >>>> us >>>> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for >>>> creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the >>>> spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service >>>> for Indies/educational media. >>>> >>>> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of >>>> Bees is >>>> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >>>> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 >>>> units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any >>>> given point, and only once a year. Open to all >>>> filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small >>>> percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> -Scott >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Scott Spicer >>>> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota >>>> Libraries - Twin Cities >>>> 341 Walter Library >>>> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >>>> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >>>> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>>
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
Great idea! JM -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Peterson, Erika Day - petersed Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:51 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. Maybe distributor's interested in the experiment could make some Groupon type offers available at NMM? E * * * * * * Erika Peterson Director of Media Resources Carrier Library, James Madison University (540) 568-6770 http://www.lib.jmu.edu/media On 7/1/11 2:44 PM, "ghand...@library.berkeley.edu" wrote: >Jon > >You can't organize 100 to do ANYTHING, let alone do it next week. > >gary > > >> Dear Scott & Gary >> >> Sure! If you can organize 100 libraries to order our (new! Great!) >> BEES film next week, we will gladly meet your price. >> >> Best >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:22 PM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. >> >> I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from >> Icarus, Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from >> WMM, and whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie >> distributors >> >> Gary >> >> >> >>> I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity >>> Fair profile on Groupon. >>> >>> I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with >>> current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full >>> price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do >>> think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: >>> >>>> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >>>> I >>>> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica >>>> reached a similar conclusion at the same time: >>>> >>>> Just a thought experiment here... >>>> >>>> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >>>>collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >>>>lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering >>>>prices would not >>>> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta >>>>give >>>> us >>>> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for >>>>creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in >>>>the spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living >>>>service for Indies/educational media. >>>> >>>> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance >>>> of Bees is >>>> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >>>> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least >>>> 50 units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any >>>> given point, and only once a year. Open to all >>>> filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small >>>> percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> -Scott >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Scott Spicer >>>> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of >>>> Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities >>>> 341 Walter Library >>>> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >>>> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >>>> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >>>> of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. >>>> It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool >>>> for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>> distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
Maybe distributor's interested in the experiment could make some Groupon type offers available at NMM? E * * * * * * Erika Peterson Director of Media Resources Carrier Library, James Madison University (540) 568-6770 http://www.lib.jmu.edu/media On 7/1/11 2:44 PM, "ghand...@library.berkeley.edu" wrote: >Jon > >You can't organize 100 to do ANYTHING, let alone do it next week. > >gary > > >> Dear Scott & Gary >> >> Sure! If you can organize 100 libraries to order our (new! Great!) BEES >> film >> next week, we will gladly meet your price. >> >> Best >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:22 PM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. >> >> I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from >> Icarus, >> Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from WMM, and >> whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie distributors >> >> Gary >> >> >> >>> I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity >>> Fair profile on Groupon. >>> >>> I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with >>> current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full >>> price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do >>> think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: >>> >>>> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >>>> I >>>> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica >>>> reached a similar conclusion at the same time: >>>> >>>> Just a thought experiment here... >>>> >>>> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >>>> collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >>>> lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering >>>> prices would not >>>> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta >>>>give >>>> us >>>> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for >>>> creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the >>>> spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service >>>> for Indies/educational media. >>>> >>>> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of >>>> Bees is >>>> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >>>> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 >>>> units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any >>>> given point, and only once a year. Open to all >>>> filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small >>>> percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> -Scott >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Scott Spicer >>>> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota >>>> Libraries - Twin Cities >>>> 341 Walter Library >>>> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >>>> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >>>> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>> distributors. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jessica Rosner >>> Media Consultant >>> 224-545-3897 (cell) >>> 212-627-1785 (land line) >>> jessicapros...@gmail.com >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and l
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
Submitting my order for Bees now. Erika * * * * * * Erika Peterson Director of Media Resources Carrier Library, James Madison University (540) 568-6770 http://www.lib.jmu.edu/media On 7/1/11 2:28 PM, "Jonathan Miller" wrote: >Dear Scott & Gary > >Sure! If you can organize 100 libraries to order our (new! Great!) BEES >film >next week, we will gladly meet your price. > >Best > >Jonathan > > >-Original Message- >From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:22 PM >To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. > >I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from >Icarus, >Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from WMM, and >whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie distributors > >Gary > > > >> I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity >> Fair profile on Groupon. >> >> I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with >> current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full >> price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do >> think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. >> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: >> >>> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >>> I >>> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica >>> reached a similar conclusion at the same time: >>> >>> Just a thought experiment here... >>> >>> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >>> collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >>> lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering >>> prices would not >>> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give >>> us >>> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for >>> creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the >>> spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service >>> for Indies/educational media. >>> >>> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of >>> Bees is >>> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >>> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 >>> units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any >>> given point, and only once a year. Open to all >>> filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small >>> percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> -Scott >>> >>> -- >>> Scott Spicer >>> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota >>> Libraries - Twin Cities >>> 341 Walter Library >>> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >>> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >>> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jessica Rosner >> Media Consultant >> 224-545-3897 (cell) >> 212-627-1785 (land line) >> jessicapros...@gmail.com >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>distributors. >> > > >Gary Handman >Director >Media Resources Center >Moffitt Library >UC Berkeley > >510-643-8566 >ghand...@library.b
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
Ok, so tell me - when? JM -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:45 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. Jon You can't organize 100 to do ANYTHING, let alone do it next week. gary > Dear Scott & Gary > > Sure! If you can organize 100 libraries to order our (new! Great!) > BEES film next week, we will gladly meet your price. > > Best > > Jonathan > > > -Original Message- > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:22 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. > > I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from > Icarus, Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from > WMM, and whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie > distributors > > Gary > > > >> I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity >> Fair profile on Groupon. >> >> I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with >> current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full >> price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do >> think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. >> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: >> >>> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >>> I >>> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica >>> reached a similar conclusion at the same time: >>> >>> Just a thought experiment here... >>> >>> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >>> collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >>> lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering >>> prices would not >>> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give >>> us >>> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for >>> creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in >>> the spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living >>> service for Indies/educational media. >>> >>> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of >>> Bees is >>> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >>> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 >>> units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any >>> given point, and only once a year. Open to all >>> filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small >>> percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> -Scott >>> >>> -- >>> Scott Spicer >>> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota >>> Libraries - Twin Cities >>> 341 Walter Library >>> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >>> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >>> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jessica Rosner >> Media Consultant >> 224-545-3897 (cell) >> 212-627-1785 (land line) >> jessicapros...@gmail.com >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributor
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
Jon You can't organize 100 to do ANYTHING, let alone do it next week. gary > Dear Scott & Gary > > Sure! If you can organize 100 libraries to order our (new! Great!) BEES > film > next week, we will gladly meet your price. > > Best > > Jonathan > > > -Original Message- > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:22 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. > > I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from > Icarus, > Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from WMM, and > whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie distributors > > Gary > > > >> I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity >> Fair profile on Groupon. >> >> I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with >> current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full >> price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do >> think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. >> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: >> >>> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >>> I >>> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica >>> reached a similar conclusion at the same time: >>> >>> Just a thought experiment here... >>> >>> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >>> collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >>> lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering >>> prices would not >>> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give >>> us >>> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for >>> creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the >>> spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service >>> for Indies/educational media. >>> >>> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of >>> Bees is >>> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >>> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 >>> units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any >>> given point, and only once a year. Open to all >>> filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small >>> percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> -Scott >>> >>> -- >>> Scott Spicer >>> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota >>> Libraries - Twin Cities >>> 341 Walter Library >>> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >>> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >>> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jessica Rosner >> Media Consultant >> 224-545-3897 (cell) >> 212-627-1785 (land line) >> jessicapros...@gmail.com >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> > > > Gary Handman > Director > Media Resources Center > Moffitt Library > UC Berkeley > > 510-643-8566 > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC > > "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." > --Francois Truffaut >
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
Dear Scott & Gary Sure! If you can organize 100 libraries to order our (new! Great!) BEES film next week, we will gladly meet your price. Best Jonathan -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:22 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion.. I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from Icarus, Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from WMM, and whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie distributors Gary > I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity > Fair profile on Groupon. > > I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with > current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full > price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do > think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: > >> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >> I >> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica >> reached a similar conclusion at the same time: >> >> Just a thought experiment here... >> >> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >> collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >> lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering >> prices would not >> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give >> us >> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for >> creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the >> spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service >> for Indies/educational media. >> >> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of >> Bees is >> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 >> units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any >> given point, and only once a year. Open to all >> filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small >> percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -Scott >> >> -- >> Scott Spicer >> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota >> Libraries - Twin Cities >> 341 Walter Library >> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> >> > > > -- > Jessica Rosner > Media Consultant > 224-545-3897 (cell) > 212-627-1785 (land line) > jessicapros...@gmail.com > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, > acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current > and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It > is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for > video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between > libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
I'd like to hear from John and Winnie from Bullfrog, Jon Miller from Icarus, Larry Daressa from California Newsreel, Debbie Zimmerman from WMM, and whoever is in charge of Filmakers...and other indie distributors Gary > I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity Fair > profile on Groupon. > > I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with current & > older titles might be libraries who bought them at full price getting > upset, > but i guess you can't do much about that. I do think trying this with new > releases would be a way to start. > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: > >> Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. >> I >> am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica reached >> a >> similar conclusion at the same time: >> >> Just a thought experiment here... >> >> I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their >> collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially >> lowered >> costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering prices would not >> necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give >> us >> video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for creative >> solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the spirit of >> Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service for >> Indies/educational media. >> >> Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of >> Bees >> is >> $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). >> Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 >> units, >> offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any given point, >> and >> only once a year. Open to all filmmakers/distributors targeting the >> academic market (with a small percentage of sales recouped for promotion >> and >> maintenance). >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -Scott >> >> -- >> Scott Spicer >> Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian >> University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities >> 341 Walter Library >> spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 >> Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media >> SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries >> and >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >> effective >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> >> > > > -- > Jessica Rosner > Media Consultant > 224-545-3897 (cell) > 212-627-1785 (land line) > jessicapros...@gmail.com > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
I think I was 15 minutes ahead of you, but then I just read a Vanity Fair profile on Groupon. I think we could try to set something up, however the issue with current & older titles might be libraries who bought them at full price getting upset, but i guess you can't do much about that. I do think trying this with new releases would be a way to start. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, scott spicer wrote: > Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. I > am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica reached a > similar conclusion at the same time: > > Just a thought experiment here... > > I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their > collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially lowered > costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering prices would not > necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give us > video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for creative > solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the spirit of > Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service for > Indies/educational media. > > Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of Bees > is > $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). > Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 units, > offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any given point, and > only once a year. Open to all filmmakers/distributors targeting the > academic market (with a small percentage of sales recouped for promotion > and > maintenance). > > Thoughts? > > -Scott > > -- > Scott Spicer > Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian > University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities > 341 Walter Library > spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 > Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media > SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Groupon suggestion..
Apologies for the spamming, but this got buried in the thread on post. I am interested to hear folks take on this, and it appears Jessica reached a similar conclusion at the same time: Just a thought experiment here... I understand that smaller distributors do not want to devalue their collections by cherry picking individual titles for substantially lowered costs and am sensitive to Jessica's claim that lowering prices would not necessarily make up for lost sales in terms of volume. You gotta give us video librarians a fighting chance. Challenging times call for creative solutions. So I propose we crowd source this thing...in the spirit of Elizabeth Stanley, we need a Groupon/Social Living service for Indies/educational media. Picture it: for one day (or week) only, The Strange Disappearance of Bees is $200 or The Big Sellout is $100 (PPR negotiated separately if needed). Let's say price predicated on collective volume sales of at least 50 units, offer ends at 500 takers. Only 5 titles can go up at any given point, and only once a year. Open to all filmmakers/distributors targeting the academic market (with a small percentage of sales recouped for promotion and maintenance). Thoughts? -Scott -- Scott Spicer Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities 341 Walter Library spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
