Re: [Videolib] What is your take?

2010-01-13 Thread jwoo
Right on, Gary.  It would be so great if every distributor read and  
understood your description of the situation.



On Jan 13, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:


The copyright law provides an exemption for use of copyrighted  
videos in

face-to-face classroom teaching.  In theory, if all you are doing is
showing videos in this context, you don't need public performance  
rights

or other copyright clearance.

Some distributors choose to establish tiered pricing:  for eg, a home
video/individual price and an institutional price. If the  
distributor is

the sole source for purchasing the DVD, the institution is stuck: the
purchase of the work represents a commercial contract which specifies
conditions of purchase and use.

If, however, the distributor of the film chooses to sell both at
institutional prices and, elsewhere (amazon, etc.) as home video,  
and IF

the only use of the DVD will be for face-to-face instruction, there is
absolutely no reason for the institution NOT to buy the cheaper  
version.


Fair use doesn't enter into this at all or in any way.

Gary Handman




Hi, Merle -

Speaking on behalf of New Day Films and probably every filmmaker  
who sells

to the academic market, the reason we price our films as we do is
specifically FOR classroom use. Home viewing or personal use means  
you

watch
a film privately, while academic pricing is intended to  
accommodate years

of
use by potentially hundreds of students. ³Fair use² doesn¹t come  
into play

here because the seller specifically states what rights are for sale
through
each purchase. And it is the seller, not the purchaser, who  
determines

what
rights are for sale.

Best wishes,

Jeff Tamblyn
Unconditional Films, LLC
913 362 6533
www.kansasvdarwin.com


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
issues relating to the selection, evaluation,  
acquisition,bibliographic
control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video  
formats in
libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will  
serve
as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a  
channel of

communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
producers and distributors.




Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

"I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion  
of issues relating to the selection, evaluation,  
acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current  
and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions.  
It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool  
for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between  
libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and  
distributors.


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] What is your take?

2010-01-13 Thread ghandman
Hi Jeff

I'm afraid that your note is a bit confusing.

This might be what you mean:

The copyright law provides an exemption for use of copyrighted videos in
face-to-face classroom teaching.  In theory, if all you are doing is
showing videos in this context, you don't need public performance rights
or other copyright clearance.

Some distributors choose to establish tiered pricing:  for eg, a home
video/individual price and an institutional price. If the distributor is
the sole source for purchasing the DVD, the institution is stuck: the
purchase of the work represents a commercial contract which specifies
conditions of purchase and use.

If, however, the distributor of the film chooses to sell both at
institutional prices and, elsewhere (amazon, etc.) as home video, and IF
the only use of the DVD will be for face-to-face instruction, there is
absolutely no reason for the institution NOT to buy the cheaper version.

Fair use doesn't enter into this at all or in any way.

Gary Handman



> Hi, Merle -
>
> Speaking on behalf of New Day Films and probably every filmmaker who sells
> to the academic market, the reason we price our films as we do is
> specifically FOR classroom use. Home viewing or personal use means you
> watch
> a film privately, while academic pricing is intended to accommodate years
> of
> use by potentially hundreds of students. ��Fair use�� doesn��t come into 
> play
> here because the seller specifically states what rights are for sale
> through
> each purchase. And it is the seller, not the purchaser, who determines
> what
> rights are for sale.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeff Tamblyn
> Unconditional Films, LLC
> 913 362 6533
> www.kansasvdarwin.com
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

"I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.



[Videolib] What is your take?

2010-01-13 Thread Jeff Tamblyn
Hi, Merle - 

Speaking on behalf of New Day Films and probably every filmmaker who sells
to the academic market, the reason we price our films as we do is
specifically FOR classroom use. Home viewing or personal use means you watch
a film privately, while academic pricing is intended to accommodate years of
use by potentially hundreds of students. ³Fair use² doesn¹t come into play
here because the seller specifically states what rights are for sale through
each purchase. And it is the seller, not the purchaser, who determines what
rights are for sale.

Best wishes,

Jeff Tamblyn
Unconditional Films, LLC
913 362 6533
www.kansasvdarwin.com


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


[Videolib] What is your take?

2010-01-13 Thread Merle J. Slyhoff
Hate to bring up this topic yet again, but...

I want to buy Taking the Heat.  Their web page states:

Personal DVD Sales:  Use of personal DVDs of this film for instructional, 
demonstrational and any other commercial or institutional purposes is STRICTLY 
FORBIDDEN.

The upper case is their upper case.  This dvd will be used in the classroom and 
is certainly fair use.  What do you think?  What version do I buy?  Personal 
from the producers or Educational/Institutional from New Day films?

Merle

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VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.