Re: [Videolib] question about public performance rights
I would never make copies of the VHS tapes. I was trying to buy DVD's of old VHS tapes. I was trying to BUY dvd's for convenience sake for those patrons that prefer that format and in each case was willing to pay for public performance rights. In cases where that was not a possibility, I decided that we would hang on to the VHS tape and keep using it. I just wanted to make sure that in the cases where we keep the VHS tape that we can still use the VHS tape for public performance rights, like campus film festivals. Many of the titles I found out cannot be purchased in DVD or VHS format any longer. They are simply not available in any format. But, we get requests for them so we use the VHS. I am sorry I was not clear. I only wanted to know if we could keep using the VHS for public performance. Matthew From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: 08/16/2011 03:59 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] question about public performance rights Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu I think Jessica may have beat me to it but... You're talking about two radically different things here: 1. First: making DVD copies from vhs or other formats can only be done under the provisions of Section 108...these provisions are pretty specific. Doing the deed for convenience sake alone is not one of these provisions. The vendors you mention would all be glad to sell you DVD copies of most of the films you originally bought from them on vhs...that's the road you need to take. 2. PPR are usually granted for the life of the physical package. Once the tape conks out, so do the rights. gary handman > We have a number of old (very old, in some cases) films (often VHS) that > when we purchased them came with public performance rights. I have proof > of this from the catalogs/orders/receipts saved from that time period. > Most just say, "includes public performance rights" which is about all > their web sites say even today. I am referring to vendors like New Day, > Filmmakers Library, Women Make Movies, Icarus, Bullfrog, etc. > > I have been trying to convert some of our old VHS Tapes to DVD where the > film is popular and if we have money to do so. In a few cases, the vendor > we purchased the tape from no longer has the rights or no longer sells the > film (in any format). I am wondering if we still have public performance > rights to these films? > > If a vendor says, "includes public performance rights" does that ever > expire (when an expiration date is not provided, like ABC News, which > lists an expiration date)? Can I still show these films as part of a > campus film festival? > > Thanks, > Matthew > > > > Matthew Wright > Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services > William S. Boyd School of Law > University of Nevada Las Vegas > 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 > Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 > (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax)VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the > broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, > evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of > current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. > It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for > video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between > libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] question about public performance rights
I think Jessica may have beat me to it but... You're talking about two radically different things here: 1. First: making DVD copies from vhs or other formats can only be done under the provisions of Section 108...these provisions are pretty specific. Doing the deed for convenience sake alone is not one of these provisions. The vendors you mention would all be glad to sell you DVD copies of most of the films you originally bought from them on vhs...that's the road you need to take. 2. PPR are usually granted for the life of the physical package. Once the tape conks out, so do the rights. gary handman > We have a number of old (very old, in some cases) films (often VHS) that > when we purchased them came with public performance rights. I have proof > of this from the catalogs/orders/receipts saved from that time period. > Most just say, "includes public performance rights" which is about all > their web sites say even today. I am referring to vendors like New Day, > Filmmakers Library, Women Make Movies, Icarus, Bullfrog, etc. > > I have been trying to convert some of our old VHS Tapes to DVD where the > film is popular and if we have money to do so. In a few cases, the vendor > we purchased the tape from no longer has the rights or no longer sells the > film (in any format). I am wondering if we still have public performance > rights to these films? > > If a vendor says, "includes public performance rights" does that ever > expire (when an expiration date is not provided, like ABC News, which > lists an expiration date)? Can I still show these films as part of a > campus film festival? > > Thanks, > Matthew > > > > Matthew Wright > Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services > William S. Boyd School of Law > University of Nevada Las Vegas > 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 > Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 > (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax)VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the > broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, > evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of > current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. > It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for > video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between > libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] question about public performance rights
But the tapes are still in good condition and work great and many have not been used all that much. I was trying to convert for convenience for those that prefer DVD, but if that is not an option, then we will keep the VHS since its works. But I wonder if I can market it as part of campus film festivals. Matthew From: Jessica Rosner To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: 08/16/2011 03:36 PM Subject:Re: [Videolib] question about public performance rights Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu Um well since you can't convert the VHS to DVD without the rights holders permission this kind of a moot point. I don't know if you have any old contract but a lot them specified life of tape anyway. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM, wrote: We have a number of old (very old, in some cases) films (often VHS) that when we purchased them came with public performance rights. I have proof of this from the catalogs/orders/receipts saved from that time period. Most just say, "includes public performance rights" which is about all their web sites say even today. I am referring to vendors like New Day, Filmmakers Library, Women Make Movies, Icarus, Bullfrog, etc. I have been trying to convert some of our old VHS Tapes to DVD where the film is popular and if we have money to do so. In a few cases, the vendor we purchased the tape from no longer has the rights or no longer sells the film (in any format). I am wondering if we still have public performance rights to these films? If a vendor says, "includes public performance rights" does that ever expire (when an expiration date is not provided, like ABC News, which lists an expiration date)? Can I still show these films as part of a campus film festival? Thanks, Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] question about public performance rights
I think, unless there was actually a time limit written into the PPR contract, then the PPR is for the life of the item. regards jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media "Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian" -- James Turner "Rex Libris" Transitus profusum est nocens! >>> 8/16/2011 3:23 PM >>> We have a number of old (very old, in some cases) films (often VHS) that when we purchased them came with public performance rights. I have proof of this from the catalogs/orders/receipts saved from that time period. Most just say, "includes public performance rights" which is about all their web sites say even today. I am referring to vendors like New Day, Filmmakers Library, Women Make Movies, Icarus, Bullfrog, etc. I have been trying to convert some of our old VHS Tapes to DVD where the film is popular and if we have money to do so. In a few cases, the vendor we purchased the tape from no longer has the rights or no longer sells the film (in any format). I am wondering if we still have public performance rights to these films? If a vendor says, "includes public performance rights" does that ever expire (when an expiration date is not provided, like ABC News, which lists an expiration date)? Can I still show these films as part of a campus film festival? Thanks, Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] question about public performance rights
Um well since you can't convert the VHS to DVD without the rights holders permission this kind of a moot point. I don't know if you have any old contract but a lot them specified life of tape anyway. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM, wrote: > We have a number of old (very old, in some cases) films (often VHS) that > when we purchased them came with public performance rights. I have proof of > this from the catalogs/orders/receipts saved from that time period. Most > just say, "includes public performance rights" which is about all their web > sites say even today. I am referring to vendors like New Day, Filmmakers > Library, Women Make Movies, Icarus, Bullfrog, etc. > > I have been trying to convert some of our old VHS Tapes to DVD where the > film is popular and if we have money to do so. In a few cases, the vendor > we purchased the tape from no longer has the rights or no longer sells the > film (in any format). I am wondering if we still have public performance > rights to these films? > > If a vendor says, "includes public performance rights" does that ever > expire (when an expiration date is not provided, like ABC News, which lists > an expiration date)? Can I still show these films as part of a campus film > festival? > > Thanks, > Matthew > > > > Matthew Wright > Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services > William S. Boyd School of Law > University of Nevada Las Vegas > 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 > Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 > (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] question about public performance rights
We have a number of old (very old, in some cases) films (often VHS) that when we purchased them came with public performance rights. I have proof of this from the catalogs/orders/receipts saved from that time period. Most just say, "includes public performance rights" which is about all their web sites say even today. I am referring to vendors like New Day, Filmmakers Library, Women Make Movies, Icarus, Bullfrog, etc. I have been trying to convert some of our old VHS Tapes to DVD where the film is popular and if we have money to do so. In a few cases, the vendor we purchased the tape from no longer has the rights or no longer sells the film (in any format). I am wondering if we still have public performance rights to these films? If a vendor says, "includes public performance rights" does that ever expire (when an expiration date is not provided, like ABC News, which lists an expiration date)? Can I still show these films as part of a campus film festival? Thanks, Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax)VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
