Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant...
As Susan pointed out this would depend on how this was handled at the point of sale. Personally I think an implied agreement such as just stating it on the web site it is for home use only is not strong enough. If on the other hand there is an actual contract spelling this out and the purchaser is required to check a box along the lines of " I have read and agree to these terms" then it would be enforceable. Jessica On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Lyndon C. McCurdy wrote: > Last week we had the same issue arise. However, if a professor purchases > a copy for “home use” and later donates the copy to the university library’s > media collection… > > . > > Lyn McCurdy > Director of Audio Visual Services > Wittenberg University > Springfield, OH 45504 > Phone: 937-327-7325 > FAX : 937-327-7315 > > > > *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: > videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Merle J. Slyhoff > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:31 PM > *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > *Subject:* [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... > > > > $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video for > home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a seminar > of 15 students… and I have to say no because I can’t fit it into the budget > at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost differential is > justifiable when it’s being used in the classroom for 15 students. > > > > OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you’ll all say. J > > > > Merle > > > > > > *** > > Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 > > Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 > > Resource Sharing LibrarianE: mslyh...@law.upenn.edu > > Biddle Law Library > > University of Pennsylvania > > 3460 Chestnut Street > > Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant...
Last week we had the same issue arise. However, if a professor purchases a copy for "home use" and later donates the copy to the university library's media collection... . Lyn McCurdy Director of Audio Visual Services Wittenberg University Springfield, OH 45504 Phone: 937-327-7325 FAX : 937-327-7315 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Merle J. Slyhoff Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:31 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video for home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a seminar of 15 students... and I have to say no because I can't fit it into the budget at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost differential is justifiable when it's being used in the classroom for 15 students. OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you'll all say. :) Merle *** Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing LibrarianE: mslyh...@law.upenn.edu Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant...
I get so confused by this - I thought if there was tiered pricing we had to buy the university copy even though it clearly falls under fair use and it won't be used outside the classroom. Someone please tell me I'm wrong and save me $$! Merle *** Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing LibrarianE: mslyh...@law.upenn.edu Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of CROWLEY, CHRISTINE Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:54 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... I see no reason that the home video cannot be purchased for that use, unless for reason the "seminar" is outside the realm of a classroom situationand the university is clearly not a for-profit institution. Christine Crowley Dean of Learning Resources Northwest Vista College 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 office 210.486.4504 fax ccrowl...@alamo.edu<mailto:ccrowl...@alamo.edu> Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc<http://www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu on behalf of John Potter-Smith Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 5:30 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... Welcome to Canada !! This is what we face every day, we have no choice of not purchasing University copies with PPR (Public Performance Rights) like you lucky folks do in the US. John Potter-Smith Library - Audiovisual Technician Kwantlen Polytechnic University Coast Capital Savings Library Phone: 604-599-2405 Fax: 604-599-2106 [https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20%5bVideolib%5d%20Old%20topic,%20new%20rantEML/1_multipart/image001.png]The Library ... Your Information Destination From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Merle J. Slyhoff Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:31 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video for home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a seminar of 15 students... and I have to say no because I can't fit it into the budget at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost differential is justifiable when it's being used in the classroom for 15 students. OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you'll all say. :) Merle *** Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing LibrarianE: mslyh...@law.upenn.edu Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant...
I see no reason that the home video cannot be purchased for that use, unless for reason the "seminar" is outside the realm of a classroom situationand the university is clearly not a for-profit institution. Christine Crowley Dean of Learning Resources Northwest Vista College 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 office 210.486.4504 fax ccrowl...@alamo.edu Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu on behalf of John Potter-Smith Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 5:30 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... Welcome to Canada !! This is what we face every day, we have no choice of not purchasing University copies with PPR (Public Performance Rights) like you lucky folks do in the US. John Potter-Smith Library - Audiovisual Technician Kwantlen Polytechnic University Coast Capital Savings Library Phone: 604-599-2405 Fax: 604-599-2106 ED00172_<https://mail.alamo.edu/exchange/ccrowley5/Drafts/RE:%20[Videolib]%20Old%20topic,%20new%20rantEML/1_multipart/image001.png> The Library ... Your Information Destination From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Merle J. Slyhoff Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:31 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video for home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a seminar of 15 students... and I have to say no because I can't fit it into the budget at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost differential is justifiable when it's being used in the classroom for 15 students. OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you'll all say. J Merle *** Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing LibrarianE: mslyh...@law.upenn.edu Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 <>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant...
Welcome to Canada !! This is what we face every day, we have no choice of not purchasing University copies with PPR (Public Performance Rights) like you lucky folks do in the US. John Potter-Smith Library - Audiovisual Technician Kwantlen Polytechnic University Coast Capital Savings Library Phone: 604-599-2405 Fax: 604-599-2106 [cid:image001.png@01CAF1E8.10150480]The Library ... Your Information Destination From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Merle J. Slyhoff Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:31 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Old topic, new rant... $300.00 for a video for universities and colleges vs $25.00 for a video for home use and one faculty member wants to view it to maybe show to a seminar of 15 students... and I have to say no because I can't fit it into the budget at $300.00. No one will ever convince me that this cost differential is justifiable when it's being used in the classroom for 15 students. OK, said it, no need to reply because I know what you'll all say. :) Merle *** Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 Resource Sharing LibrarianE: mslyh...@law.upenn.edu Biddle Law Library University of Pennsylvania 3460 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-3406 <>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
