Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
Hi Julie, Toledo PL has hoopla, so feel free to contact me by phone to discuss. Tracy Tracy Montri Manager, Audiovisual Department Toledo-Lucas County Public Library 325 Michigan Toledo, Ohio 43604 419-259-5229 tracy.mon...@toledolibrary.org From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Bradford [jbradf...@lcplin.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:50 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Hello Collective Wisdom, I am curious to see if any of the public librarians reading this have Midwest Tapes' Hoopla...? Does anyone have any experience with it or know of anyone who has it? Our library is thinking about jumping on, but I just wanted to know if anyone can comment on it. How well does it work, pluses and minuses, etc. Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to contact me off list. Thanks, Julie Julie Bradford Lake County Public Library Merrillville, IN 46410 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
I've been trying to follow the conversation but I'm out of the country. We don't own any steaming content to my knowledge. But we do own the DVDs of everything we stream. At least so far. Wait that's not Entirely true. We license the group package statewide from Alexander Street press ... That's a lot of video, None of it we own. But it's not an on demand setup. I'll ask our col-dev person about it. Cheers! - Reply message - From: "Laura Jenemann" To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Date: Thu, Aug 8, 2013 6:04 pm Randal, does the library ever own the streaming content after a certain amount of views? Now I'm wondering if any of the streaming vendors have tried out the patron driven acquisition model being used for e-books. Regards, Laura From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Randal Baier Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:43 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Hi Laura, well here are two examples in the shape of an "idee"not an answer. We own and stream "killing us softly 4" which cost us about $350 inc. the streaming Fee. We have at least 700 people per year watching that film at least once, so $0.50 per view. On the other hand we own "sweetgrass, " which i bought for both aesthetic and sociological reasons, at about the same price, and we have maybe 6 viewings per year. what is that, $50+ per view per year? maybe somewhere there is a better balance overall from a collection point of view . That's all, i have no real answer, but i think some of the "pay per class" rent when you need it schemes might work. The one thing that does concern me is the Neo-liberal "everyone pays their own way" concept that seems to be behind some of this. Yet another fee added to student course costs, etc. Cheers, Randal Baier - Reply message - From: "Laura Jenemann" mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu>> To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>" mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>> Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Date: Thu, Aug 8, 2013 3:49 pm Hello videolib, How do videolibbers feel about the pay-per-circ pricing model? Just curious. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian Johnson Center Library George Mason University 4400 University Drive MS 1A6 Fairfax VA, 22030 Phone: 703-993-7593 Email: ljene...@gmu.edu<mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu> -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:11 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? No experience with the services, but did just see these articles re Hoopla and other subscription streaming for libraries: http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/hoopla-wants-to-be-a-free-netflix-for-library-users/ http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2013/07/media/more-vendors-help-libraries-stream-video/ Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu<mailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
If anyone does, feel free to share with the class! Becky Tatar Periodicals/Audiovisuals Aurora Public Library 1 E. Benton Street Aurora, IL 60505 Phone: 630-264-4100 FAX: 630-896-3209 blt...@aurora.lib.il.us www.aurorapubliclibrary.org -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Bradford Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 5:51 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Hello Collective Wisdom, I am curious to see if any of the public librarians reading this have Midwest Tapes' Hoopla...? Does anyone have any experience with it or know of anyone who has it? Our library is thinking about jumping on, but I just wanted to know if anyone can comment on it. How well does it work, pluses and minuses, etc. Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to contact me off list. Thanks, Julie Julie Bradford Lake County Public Library Merrillville, IN 46410 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
Randal, does the library ever own the streaming content after a certain amount of views? Now I'm wondering if any of the streaming vendors have tried out the patron driven acquisition model being used for e-books. Regards, Laura From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Randal Baier Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:43 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Hi Laura, well here are two examples in the shape of an "idee"not an answer. We own and stream "killing us softly 4" which cost us about $350 inc. the streaming Fee. We have at least 700 people per year watching that film at least once, so $0.50 per view. On the other hand we own "sweetgrass, " which i bought for both aesthetic and sociological reasons, at about the same price, and we have maybe 6 viewings per year. what is that, $50+ per view per year? maybe somewhere there is a better balance overall from a collection point of view . That's all, i have no real answer, but i think some of the "pay per class" rent when you need it schemes might work. The one thing that does concern me is the Neo-liberal "everyone pays their own way" concept that seems to be behind some of this. Yet another fee added to student course costs, etc. Cheers, Randal Baier - Reply message - From: "Laura Jenemann" mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu>> To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>" mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>> Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Date: Thu, Aug 8, 2013 3:49 pm Hello videolib, How do videolibbers feel about the pay-per-circ pricing model? Just curious. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian Johnson Center Library George Mason University 4400 University Drive MS 1A6 Fairfax VA, 22030 Phone: 703-993-7593 Email: ljene...@gmu.edu<mailto:ljene...@gmu.edu> -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:11 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? No experience with the services, but did just see these articles re Hoopla and other subscription streaming for libraries: http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/hoopla-wants-to-be-a-free-netflix-for-library-users/ http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2013/07/media/more-vendors-help-libraries-stream-video/ Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu<mailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
We have seen variations on this them over the last decade or so for ebooks and digital media. It can be an administrative and budgeting nightmare. The more successful models allow access to a selection for users, the library pays for a predetermined number of uses with the option for additional use. Sometimes a certain level of use triggers a purchase(patron driven acquisition). It is a reality. Nell Chenault VCU Libraries On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Randal Baier wrote: > Hi Laura, well here are two examples in the shape of an "idee"not an > answer. > > We own and stream "killing us softly 4" which cost us about $350 inc. the > streaming Fee. We have at least 700 people per year watching that film at > least once, so $0.50 per view. > > On the other hand we own "sweetgrass, " which i bought for both aesthetic > and sociological reasons, at about the same price, and we have maybe 6 > viewings per year. what is that, $50+ per view per year? > > maybe somewhere there is a better balance overall from a collection point > of view . > > That's all, i have no real answer, but i think some of the "pay per class" > rent when you need it schemes might work. > > The one thing that does concern me is the Neo-liberal "everyone pays their > own way" concept that seems to be behind some of this. Yet another fee > added to student course costs, etc. > > Cheers, Randal Baier > > > - Reply message - > From: "Laura Jenemann" > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? > Date: Thu, Aug 8, 2013 3:49 pm > > > > > Hello videolib, How do videolibbers feel about the pay-per-circ pricing > model? Just curious. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media > Services Librarian Johnson Center Library George Mason University 4400 > University Drive MS 1A6 Fairfax VA, 22030 Phone: 703-993-7593 Email: > ljene...@gmu.edu -Original Message- From: > videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: > videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:11 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? No experience with > the services, but did just see these articles re Hoopla and other > subscription streaming for libraries: > http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/hoopla-wants-to-be-a-free-netflix-for-library-users/ > http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2013/07/media/more-vendors-help-libraries-stream-video/Barb > Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota > State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.bergman@mnsu.eduVIDEOLIB > is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries > and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an > effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and > lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, > acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and > evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped > that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, > as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational > institutions, and video producers and distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
Hi Laura, well here are two examples in the shape of an "idee"not an answer. We own and stream "killing us softly 4" which cost us about $350 inc. the streaming Fee. We have at least 700 people per year watching that film at least once, so $0.50 per view. On the other hand we own "sweetgrass, " which i bought for both aesthetic and sociological reasons, at about the same price, and we have maybe 6 viewings per year. what is that, $50+ per view per year? maybe somewhere there is a better balance overall from a collection point of view . That's all, i have no real answer, but i think some of the "pay per class" rent when you need it schemes might work. The one thing that does concern me is the Neo-liberal "everyone pays their own way" concept that seems to be behind some of this. Yet another fee added to student course costs, etc. Cheers, Randal Baier - Reply message - From: "Laura Jenemann" To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Date: Thu, Aug 8, 2013 3:49 pm Hello videolib, How do videolibbers feel about the pay-per-circ pricing model? Just curious. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian Johnson Center Library George Mason University 4400 University Drive MS 1A6 Fairfax VA, 22030 Phone: 703-993-7593 Email: ljene...@gmu.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:11 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? No experience with the services, but did just see these articles re Hoopla and other subscription streaming for libraries: http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/hoopla-wants-to-be-a-free-netflix-for-library-users/ http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2013/07/media/more-vendors-help-libraries-stream-video/ Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
I would also be interested in hearing responses to Hoopla. Thanks, David -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Marsha Loyer Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:00 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Just had a demonstration on Hoopla yesterday! I would also be very interested in any responses. It looks really good! Sincerely, Marsha Loyer Mishawaka-Penn-Harris Public Library 209 Lincoln Way East Mishawaka, IN 46544 574-259-5277 x 200 -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Bradford Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:51 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Hello Collective Wisdom, I am curious to see if any of the public librarians reading this have Midwest Tapes' Hoopla...? Does anyone have any experience with it or know of anyone who has it? Our library is thinking about jumping on, but I just wanted to know if anyone can comment on it. How well does it work, pluses and minuses, etc. Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to contact me off list. Thanks, Julie Julie Bradford Lake County Public Library Merrillville, IN 46410 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
Hello videolib, How do videolibbers feel about the pay-per-circ pricing model? Just curious. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian Johnson Center Library George Mason University 4400 University Drive MS 1A6 Fairfax VA, 22030 Phone: 703-993-7593 Email: ljene...@gmu.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:11 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? No experience with the services, but did just see these articles re Hoopla and other subscription streaming for libraries: http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/hoopla-wants-to-be-a-free-netflix-for-library-users/ http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2013/07/media/more-vendors-help-libraries-stream-video/ Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
No experience with the services, but did just see these articles re Hoopla and other subscription streaming for libraries: http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/hoopla-wants-to-be-a-free-netflix-for-library-users/ http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2013/07/media/more-vendors-help-libraries-stream-video/ Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla??
Just had a demonstration on Hoopla yesterday! I would also be very interested in any responses. It looks really good! Sincerely, Marsha Loyer Mishawaka-Penn-Harris Public Library 209 Lincoln Way East Mishawaka, IN 46544 574-259-5277 x 200 -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Julie Bradford Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:51 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Public Librarians... Hoopla?? Hello Collective Wisdom, I am curious to see if any of the public librarians reading this have Midwest Tapes' Hoopla...? Does anyone have any experience with it or know of anyone who has it? Our library is thinking about jumping on, but I just wanted to know if anyone can comment on it. How well does it work, pluses and minuses, etc. Thanks in advance for your help. Feel free to contact me off list. Thanks, Julie Julie Bradford Lake County Public Library Merrillville, IN 46410 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.