Re: [Videolib] Vietnamese Film
Sorry I have been known to misspell my own name ( but oddly I never misspell Greg Maddux ) . I am psycho sensitive re youtube because folks here have posted it NOT as sarcasm and it often used by professors. Honestly the NY Times thing is important because it is the difference between knowing whether a film ever had US distribution. I would never mean to be snarky with YOU. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Elena Wayne wrote: > Jessica... Pardon my snarky response. Ive known you for at least > twenty five years.. it's ELENA NOT ELANA AND PLEASE NOTE THE ;-) it is > meant as SARCASM! I was NEVER suggesting the use of the youtube copy > AND yes your snark is showing.. Have a Great Week... > Everybody.. stay warm... > > ELENA > > > > Quoting Jessica Rosner : > > > Elana & Rhonda > > The Times did NOT review it, that is merely a summery. I am not trying to > > snarky , the difference is crucial. The Times is basically the only > > publication that reviews all films that have theatrical openings in the > US > > ( unless they never open in NYC) and the real reviews do list the > > distributor. Variety is by far the better source for a film without US > > distribution. I don't see anything on the BFI site that has contact info > > but certainly Phouc Sang is who you want to reach. > > > > Also wile I realize you were trying to helpful it is never a good idea to > > use bootlegs on youtube. They are worse than pirate DVDs. I have had the > > misfortune MANY times of people listing films I am working on youtube > LONG > > before we can get them out in the US and it is one the key factors in why > > it is so much harder to distribute foreign films in the US. I was also > > recently in touch with someone who spend YEARS to clear the rights of > > classic film including a writers estate and TWO studios and he just saw > it > > up on youtube. It is not a rare film so libraries would clearly get legal > > copies but the point is virtually every feature film on Youtube is > illegal > > and it really does effect the ability of filmmakers and distributors to > put > > out high quality and legal copies when people use Youtube as a resource. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Elena Wayne > wrote: > > > >> Hello Rhonda, > >> > >> Here is a link to info on Phuoc Sang Films It appears it was reviewed > >> by the NY Times. > >> > >> > http://vietnamnews.vn/sunday/inner-sanctum/231237/director-prefers-artistic-films-but-money-rules.html > >> > >> BFI has this studio listed > >> http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/organisation/216332 > >> > >> Might also try this Linkedin group... > >> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=1933262&trk=anet_ug_hm > >> > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/379673/The-White-Silk-Dress/overview > >> > >> And of course here it is.. on YOUTUBE: ;-) > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3twvSiZWxo > >> > >> Quoting Rhonda Pancoe : > >> > >> > Jessica, > >> > > >> > I appreciate your quick and very informative reply to my inquiry. It > >> > certainly will help me with this and future requests I know I will > >> > receive. I had already asked the student group to help track it down > as > >> I > >> > could not find that it was released in the US either. > >> > > >> > Rhonda Pancoe > >> > Media Acquisitions Coordinator > >> > Colgate University > >> > 13 Oak Drive > >> > Hamilton, NY 13346 > >> > 315-228-7858 Phone > >> > 315-228-6227 Fax > >> > rpan...@colgate.edu > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Jessica Rosner < > maddux2...@gmail.com > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> OK guys I am going to do this for the last time since there are a > lot of > >> >> posts like this. > >> >> > >> >> First probably 99% of films made outside of the US NEVER PICK UP US > >> >> DISTRIBUTION this does NOT mean they do not have a rights holder but > it > >> >> means you are going to have to track them down outside the US which > is > >> >> tricky and often insanely expensive but to be fair there are > sometimes > >> >> happy stories just not a lot. > >> >> > >> >> This film was made in 2006 and it is clear it was never distributed > in > >> the > >> >> US. I am not even clear if it ever showed in festivals. Actually the > >> VERY > >> >> first place I try is of all things ROTTEN TOMATOES for the critics > >> reviews. > >> >> This will make it clear if the film ever had US distribution in this > >> case > >> >> it did not. There are no US reviews. It does however have a Variety > >> review > >> >> which is the BEST place to get info in these situations. Variety > reviews > >> >> will usually list both producers, production company and SALES agent > and > >> >> that is where you will have to go. In this case it is listed as the > >> HANOI > >> >> MEDIA GROUP but I can't find them. In many cases you will find it > may be > >> >> one of the large European companies like Studio Canal, MK2, Gaumont > etc > >> and > >> >> they are not the friendliest types. > >> >> > >> >> I don't know how libra
Re: [Videolib] Vietnamese Film
Jessica... Pardon my snarky response. Ive known you for at least twenty five years.. it's ELENA NOT ELANA AND PLEASE NOTE THE ;-) it is meant as SARCASM! I was NEVER suggesting the use of the youtube copy AND yes your snark is showing.. Have a Great Week... Everybody.. stay warm... ELENA Quoting Jessica Rosner : > Elana & Rhonda > The Times did NOT review it, that is merely a summery. I am not trying to > snarky , the difference is crucial. The Times is basically the only > publication that reviews all films that have theatrical openings in the US > ( unless they never open in NYC) and the real reviews do list the > distributor. Variety is by far the better source for a film without US > distribution. I don't see anything on the BFI site that has contact info > but certainly Phouc Sang is who you want to reach. > > Also wile I realize you were trying to helpful it is never a good idea to > use bootlegs on youtube. They are worse than pirate DVDs. I have had the > misfortune MANY times of people listing films I am working on youtube LONG > before we can get them out in the US and it is one the key factors in why > it is so much harder to distribute foreign films in the US. I was also > recently in touch with someone who spend YEARS to clear the rights of > classic film including a writers estate and TWO studios and he just saw it > up on youtube. It is not a rare film so libraries would clearly get legal > copies but the point is virtually every feature film on Youtube is illegal > and it really does effect the ability of filmmakers and distributors to put > out high quality and legal copies when people use Youtube as a resource. > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Elena Wayne wrote: > >> Hello Rhonda, >> >> Here is a link to info on Phuoc Sang Films It appears it was reviewed >> by the NY Times. >> >> http://vietnamnews.vn/sunday/inner-sanctum/231237/director-prefers-artistic-films-but-money-rules.html >> >> BFI has this studio listed >> http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/organisation/216332 >> >> Might also try this Linkedin group... >> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=1933262&trk=anet_ug_hm >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/379673/The-White-Silk-Dress/overview >> >> And of course here it is.. on YOUTUBE: ;-) >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3twvSiZWxo >> >> Quoting Rhonda Pancoe : >> >> > Jessica, >> > >> > I appreciate your quick and very informative reply to my inquiry. It >> > certainly will help me with this and future requests I know I will >> > receive. I had already asked the student group to help track it down as >> I >> > could not find that it was released in the US either. >> > >> > Rhonda Pancoe >> > Media Acquisitions Coordinator >> > Colgate University >> > 13 Oak Drive >> > Hamilton, NY 13346 >> > 315-228-7858 Phone >> > 315-228-6227 Fax >> > rpan...@colgate.edu >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Jessica Rosner > >wrote: >> > >> >> OK guys I am going to do this for the last time since there are a lot of >> >> posts like this. >> >> >> >> First probably 99% of films made outside of the US NEVER PICK UP US >> >> DISTRIBUTION this does NOT mean they do not have a rights holder but it >> >> means you are going to have to track them down outside the US which is >> >> tricky and often insanely expensive but to be fair there are sometimes >> >> happy stories just not a lot. >> >> >> >> This film was made in 2006 and it is clear it was never distributed in >> the >> >> US. I am not even clear if it ever showed in festivals. Actually the >> VERY >> >> first place I try is of all things ROTTEN TOMATOES for the critics >> reviews. >> >> This will make it clear if the film ever had US distribution in this >> case >> >> it did not. There are no US reviews. It does however have a Variety >> review >> >> which is the BEST place to get info in these situations. Variety reviews >> >> will usually list both producers, production company and SALES agent and >> >> that is where you will have to go. In this case it is listed as the >> HANOI >> >> MEDIA GROUP but I can't find them. In many cases you will find it may be >> >> one of the large European companies like Studio Canal, MK2, Gaumont etc >> and >> >> they are not the friendliest types. >> >> >> >> I don't know how librarians feel about this but since this is a request >> >> from a student group I think the onus should be on them to track it down >> >> and see if they can obtain rights and provide the school with clear >> >> documentation. >> >> >> >> Bottom line is a bitch to track this kind of stuff down and there is no >> >> right to show a film to an audience if you can't clear the rights so >> >> sometimes students or even professors will have to live with not being >> able >> >> to show the film. In this case I doubt one could even find a legal copy >> for >> >> classroom use since I don't see any overseas reviews except one >> relatively >> >> obscure one. >> >> >> >> Good luck >> >> >> >> >> >> On
Re: [Videolib] Vietnamese Film
Elana & Rhonda The Times did NOT review it, that is merely a summery. I am not trying to snarky , the difference is crucial. The Times is basically the only publication that reviews all films that have theatrical openings in the US ( unless they never open in NYC) and the real reviews do list the distributor. Variety is by far the better source for a film without US distribution. I don't see anything on the BFI site that has contact info but certainly Phouc Sang is who you want to reach. Also wile I realize you were trying to helpful it is never a good idea to use bootlegs on youtube. They are worse than pirate DVDs. I have had the misfortune MANY times of people listing films I am working on youtube LONG before we can get them out in the US and it is one the key factors in why it is so much harder to distribute foreign films in the US. I was also recently in touch with someone who spend YEARS to clear the rights of classic film including a writers estate and TWO studios and he just saw it up on youtube. It is not a rare film so libraries would clearly get legal copies but the point is virtually every feature film on Youtube is illegal and it really does effect the ability of filmmakers and distributors to put out high quality and legal copies when people use Youtube as a resource. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Elena Wayne wrote: > Hello Rhonda, > > Here is a link to info on Phuoc Sang Films It appears it was reviewed > by the NY Times. > > http://vietnamnews.vn/sunday/inner-sanctum/231237/director-prefers-artistic-films-but-money-rules.html > > BFI has this studio listed > http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/organisation/216332 > > Might also try this Linkedin group... > http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=1933262&trk=anet_ug_hm > > http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/379673/The-White-Silk-Dress/overview > > And of course here it is.. on YOUTUBE: ;-) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3twvSiZWxo > > Quoting Rhonda Pancoe : > > > Jessica, > > > > I appreciate your quick and very informative reply to my inquiry. It > > certainly will help me with this and future requests I know I will > > receive. I had already asked the student group to help track it down as > I > > could not find that it was released in the US either. > > > > Rhonda Pancoe > > Media Acquisitions Coordinator > > Colgate University > > 13 Oak Drive > > Hamilton, NY 13346 > > 315-228-7858 Phone > > 315-228-6227 Fax > > rpan...@colgate.edu > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Jessica Rosner >wrote: > > > >> OK guys I am going to do this for the last time since there are a lot of > >> posts like this. > >> > >> First probably 99% of films made outside of the US NEVER PICK UP US > >> DISTRIBUTION this does NOT mean they do not have a rights holder but it > >> means you are going to have to track them down outside the US which is > >> tricky and often insanely expensive but to be fair there are sometimes > >> happy stories just not a lot. > >> > >> This film was made in 2006 and it is clear it was never distributed in > the > >> US. I am not even clear if it ever showed in festivals. Actually the > VERY > >> first place I try is of all things ROTTEN TOMATOES for the critics > reviews. > >> This will make it clear if the film ever had US distribution in this > case > >> it did not. There are no US reviews. It does however have a Variety > review > >> which is the BEST place to get info in these situations. Variety reviews > >> will usually list both producers, production company and SALES agent and > >> that is where you will have to go. In this case it is listed as the > HANOI > >> MEDIA GROUP but I can't find them. In many cases you will find it may be > >> one of the large European companies like Studio Canal, MK2, Gaumont etc > and > >> they are not the friendliest types. > >> > >> I don't know how librarians feel about this but since this is a request > >> from a student group I think the onus should be on them to track it down > >> and see if they can obtain rights and provide the school with clear > >> documentation. > >> > >> Bottom line is a bitch to track this kind of stuff down and there is no > >> right to show a film to an audience if you can't clear the rights so > >> sometimes students or even professors will have to live with not being > able > >> to show the film. In this case I doubt one could even find a legal copy > for > >> classroom use since I don't see any overseas reviews except one > relatively > >> obscure one. > >> > >> Good luck > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Rhonda Pancoe >wrote: > >> > >>> I have a student group that wants to screen Au lua Ha Dong - The White > >>> Silk Dress by Luu Huynh. Does anybody know who has the rights to this > >>> film? > >>> > >>> Rhonda Pancoe > >>> Media Acquisitions Coordinator > >>> Colgate University > >>> 13 Oak Drive > >>> Hamilton, NY 13346 > >>> 315-228-7858 Phone > >>> 315-228-6227 Fax > >>> rpan...@colgate.edu > >>> > >>> VIDEOLIB is in
Re: [Videolib] Vietnamese Film
Hello Rhonda, Here is a link to info on Phuoc Sang Films It appears it was reviewed by the NY Times. http://vietnamnews.vn/sunday/inner-sanctum/231237/director-prefers-artistic-films-but-money-rules.html BFI has this studio listed http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/organisation/216332 Might also try this Linkedin group... http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=1933262&trk=anet_ug_hm http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/379673/The-White-Silk-Dress/overview And of course here it is.. on YOUTUBE: ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3twvSiZWxo Quoting Rhonda Pancoe : > Jessica, > > I appreciate your quick and very informative reply to my inquiry. It > certainly will help me with this and future requests I know I will > receive. I had already asked the student group to help track it down as I > could not find that it was released in the US either. > > Rhonda Pancoe > Media Acquisitions Coordinator > Colgate University > 13 Oak Drive > Hamilton, NY 13346 > 315-228-7858 Phone > 315-228-6227 Fax > rpan...@colgate.edu > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: > >> OK guys I am going to do this for the last time since there are a lot of >> posts like this. >> >> First probably 99% of films made outside of the US NEVER PICK UP US >> DISTRIBUTION this does NOT mean they do not have a rights holder but it >> means you are going to have to track them down outside the US which is >> tricky and often insanely expensive but to be fair there are sometimes >> happy stories just not a lot. >> >> This film was made in 2006 and it is clear it was never distributed in the >> US. I am not even clear if it ever showed in festivals. Actually the VERY >> first place I try is of all things ROTTEN TOMATOES for the critics reviews. >> This will make it clear if the film ever had US distribution in this case >> it did not. There are no US reviews. It does however have a Variety review >> which is the BEST place to get info in these situations. Variety reviews >> will usually list both producers, production company and SALES agent and >> that is where you will have to go. In this case it is listed as the HANOI >> MEDIA GROUP but I can't find them. In many cases you will find it may be >> one of the large European companies like Studio Canal, MK2, Gaumont etc and >> they are not the friendliest types. >> >> I don't know how librarians feel about this but since this is a request >> from a student group I think the onus should be on them to track it down >> and see if they can obtain rights and provide the school with clear >> documentation. >> >> Bottom line is a bitch to track this kind of stuff down and there is no >> right to show a film to an audience if you can't clear the rights so >> sometimes students or even professors will have to live with not being able >> to show the film. In this case I doubt one could even find a legal copy for >> classroom use since I don't see any overseas reviews except one relatively >> obscure one. >> >> Good luck >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Rhonda Pancoe wrote: >> >>> I have a student group that wants to screen Au lua Ha Dong - The White >>> Silk Dress by Luu Huynh. Does anybody know who has the rights to this >>> film? >>> >>> Rhonda Pancoe >>> Media Acquisitions Coordinator >>> Colgate University >>> 13 Oak Drive >>> Hamilton, NY 13346 >>> 315-228-7858 Phone >>> 315-228-6227 Fax >>> rpan...@colgate.edu >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >>> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> > Elena Wayne Docuseek2.com ewa...@docuseek2.com 847-537-0606 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Vietnamese Film
Jessica, I appreciate your quick and very informative reply to my inquiry. It certainly will help me with this and future requests I know I will receive. I had already asked the student group to help track it down as I could not find that it was released in the US either. Rhonda Pancoe Media Acquisitions Coordinator Colgate University 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, NY 13346 315-228-7858 Phone 315-228-6227 Fax rpan...@colgate.edu On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: > OK guys I am going to do this for the last time since there are a lot of > posts like this. > > First probably 99% of films made outside of the US NEVER PICK UP US > DISTRIBUTION this does NOT mean they do not have a rights holder but it > means you are going to have to track them down outside the US which is > tricky and often insanely expensive but to be fair there are sometimes > happy stories just not a lot. > > This film was made in 2006 and it is clear it was never distributed in the > US. I am not even clear if it ever showed in festivals. Actually the VERY > first place I try is of all things ROTTEN TOMATOES for the critics reviews. > This will make it clear if the film ever had US distribution in this case > it did not. There are no US reviews. It does however have a Variety review > which is the BEST place to get info in these situations. Variety reviews > will usually list both producers, production company and SALES agent and > that is where you will have to go. In this case it is listed as the HANOI > MEDIA GROUP but I can't find them. In many cases you will find it may be > one of the large European companies like Studio Canal, MK2, Gaumont etc and > they are not the friendliest types. > > I don't know how librarians feel about this but since this is a request > from a student group I think the onus should be on them to track it down > and see if they can obtain rights and provide the school with clear > documentation. > > Bottom line is a bitch to track this kind of stuff down and there is no > right to show a film to an audience if you can't clear the rights so > sometimes students or even professors will have to live with not being able > to show the film. In this case I doubt one could even find a legal copy for > classroom use since I don't see any overseas reviews except one relatively > obscure one. > > Good luck > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Rhonda Pancoe wrote: > >> I have a student group that wants to screen Au lua Ha Dong - The White >> Silk Dress by Luu Huynh. Does anybody know who has the rights to this >> film? >> >> Rhonda Pancoe >> Media Acquisitions Coordinator >> Colgate University >> 13 Oak Drive >> Hamilton, NY 13346 >> 315-228-7858 Phone >> 315-228-6227 Fax >> rpan...@colgate.edu >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Vietnamese Film
OK guys I am going to do this for the last time since there are a lot of posts like this. First probably 99% of films made outside of the US NEVER PICK UP US DISTRIBUTION this does NOT mean they do not have a rights holder but it means you are going to have to track them down outside the US which is tricky and often insanely expensive but to be fair there are sometimes happy stories just not a lot. This film was made in 2006 and it is clear it was never distributed in the US. I am not even clear if it ever showed in festivals. Actually the VERY first place I try is of all things ROTTEN TOMATOES for the critics reviews. This will make it clear if the film ever had US distribution in this case it did not. There are no US reviews. It does however have a Variety review which is the BEST place to get info in these situations. Variety reviews will usually list both producers, production company and SALES agent and that is where you will have to go. In this case it is listed as the HANOI MEDIA GROUP but I can't find them. In many cases you will find it may be one of the large European companies like Studio Canal, MK2, Gaumont etc and they are not the friendliest types. I don't know how librarians feel about this but since this is a request from a student group I think the onus should be on them to track it down and see if they can obtain rights and provide the school with clear documentation. Bottom line is a bitch to track this kind of stuff down and there is no right to show a film to an audience if you can't clear the rights so sometimes students or even professors will have to live with not being able to show the film. In this case I doubt one could even find a legal copy for classroom use since I don't see any overseas reviews except one relatively obscure one. Good luck On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Rhonda Pancoe wrote: > I have a student group that wants to screen Au lua Ha Dong - The White > Silk Dress by Luu Huynh. Does anybody know who has the rights to this > film? > > Rhonda Pancoe > Media Acquisitions Coordinator > Colgate University > 13 Oak Drive > Hamilton, NY 13346 > 315-228-7858 Phone > 315-228-6227 Fax > rpan...@colgate.edu > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
