[VIHUELA] Re: dyslexia and reading music

2007-11-01 Thread robert fallis
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:04:49 -, bill kilpatrick  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



do you think there's a correlation between dyslexia
and an inability to read music? - bill


Bill,
I'm a 69 year old dyslexic,, I have real problems reading staff notation,  
I was taught the voilin at a early age,
and still read staff notation,in violin fingering, about ten years ago I  
took up the lute,and now the vihuela, I struggled a bit
with tablature, but now I read it well, no way will I go back to staff, if  
I use it I still struggle, perhaps one of the reasons people have  
difficulty with reading music, is the staff and the way it's written


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[VIHUELA] Re: dedillo

2007-11-01 Thread RALPH MAIER
Hello again,

Thanks to all for your comments. There aren't many players in this part of the 
country to bounce ideas off of, and its nice to have your feedback. 

I wrote the article a few years ago as a final project for a grad seminar to 
help me come to terms with what I saw as a few basic fundamentals outlined in 
the sources and already discussed by others, and to clarify what was for me a 
newly adopted instrument and playing style. The examples are laid out roughly 
in order of difficulty, with the intention of serving as a starting point for 
players. A good way of learning dedillo would be to use the article as a 
template and supplement it with similar passages from the sources. 

One of my first concert outings with the vihuela was a recital sponsored by the 
Classical Guitar Society here in Calgary, in which I decided to play some of 
the Mudarra fantasias - great examples of dedillo. Before playing them, I 
talked a bit about the instrument and the idea of dedillo. After the concert, I 
was approached by several collegues - both respectable players and teachers - 
who confessed not really being able to hear much of a difference between 
dedillo and dos dedos. The fact is that even up close the difference in sound 
can be subtle. Still, there are many situations where using dedillo is a 
lifesaver, and its a great thing to help round out your toolbox. Cheers.

Ralph





- Original Message -
From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:24 am
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
To: Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu

 thank you, monica.  actually, i knew that ... just got
 a little disoriented with all these wizzing fingers.
 
 i'm sure there's a degree of subtility to be gained
 from finger picking - as opposed to plectrum picking -
 and effects as yet unknown to me ... but so far, i
 much prefer the pick.  it's louder, for one thing and
 makes a consistant, syncopated sound that in finger
 picking sounds just a little mechanical - imho.
 
 but with all effects i've noticed that paired courses
 make a fuller, more musical sound.
 
 - bill

 --- Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes - the vihuela must have been played with a
  plectrum originally.  It was 
  called a vihuela de pendula I think - to distinguish
  it from the vihuela de 
  mano and vihuela de arco..
  
  In fact most plucked stringed instruments, including
  the lute and the guitar 
  were played with plectra as a matter of course until
  the end of the 15th 
  century - and  probably played only a single line.  
  Playing finger style in 
  several parts began to be deveolped towards the end
  of the 15th century - as 
  I understand it.
  
  Monica
  - Original Message - 
  From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: RALPH MAIER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: 'Vihuela Net' vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu;
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:35 PM
  Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
  
  
   thank you - my thumb over technigue doesn't exist
  and
   it's a relief to know that sig. fuenilana
  preferred
   the (to me, infinitly more natural) thumb-under.
  
   was the vihuela - any vihuela - ever played with a
   plectrum?
  
   bienvenuto - bill
  
   --- RALPH MAIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   The other two are do dedos (thumb and finger like
   most lutenists), and index and middle finger
  (like
   modern guitarists). The last was apparently
   Fuenllana's fingering of choice.
  
   Ralph
  
   - Original Message -
   From: bill kilpatrick
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:03 pm
   Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
   To: 'Vihuela Net' vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
archiving (is that a word?) problems from your
   address
might be spam related.  it happened to me
  once
   and i
felt just awful about it (my italian server was
  to
blame ...)
   
in ralph maier's excellent article there's a
  quote
   in
translation from miguel de fuenllana which
   mentions
... three ways [in] which [they] customarily
  are
played on this instrument, the vihuela.  only
  one
   -
dedillo - is elaborated.
   
please, what are the other two?
   
- bill
   
--- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Wayne has told me that the archive computer
  has
 decided it doesn't like
 me...and is refusing to archive my posts. I'm
   trying
 not to take this
 personally.

 BTW, Ralph Maier, he of the online article re
 dedillo (and excellent vihuela
 playing) has joined our list. Welcome,
  friend.

 Rob

 www.rmguitar.info





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[VIHUELA] Re: dyslexia and reading music

2007-11-01 Thread Alexis Blumberg
No, it is Petra Vermote. For those who wonder, I asked her permission to
reveal her name. She did not mind at all.

Alexis

-Original Message-
From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 1 november 2007 15:49
To: Alexis Blumberg
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] dyslexia and reading music

Cathy Towbin perchance?
RT

From: Alexis Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 seems that it does not have to be an obstacle. A colleague and friend 
 of mine is one the foremost composers in Belgium and she is dyslexic. 
 Somehow she managed to overcome her problem during childhood. She is 
 one of the best score readers I know. Her own scores are mostly for 
 ensembles and orchestras and are extremely complicated to read. She 
 told me once that reading staff helped her to overcome her dyslexia in 
 general. I have never noticed any problem with her reading or writing 
 text or music.

 Alexis

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