Absolutely...de Gallot was probably a common surname and there may have been
no connection between the guitar Gallots and others.
Monica
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From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
To: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl
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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:16 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Other de Gallot families
I think we need to be cautious in considering them part of the same
family. I'm not sure how common a name de Gallot was at the time but
it's probable that many families with little apparent connection had
the name.
MH
--- On Sun, 20/3/11, Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl wrote:
From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl
Subject: [LUTE] Odp: Re: Other de Gallots
To: mathias.roe...@t-online.de mathias.roe...@t-online.de
Cc: l...@cs.dartmouth.edu l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2011, 17:35
Dear friends,
Dnia 20-03-2011 o godz. 16:23 [1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de
napisaAA'(a):
Dear Martyn, Grzegorz, Martin,
the Gallots seemingly were quite a large family, that much seems to
be
true ... I only tried to make clear that Jacques was the name of at
least two members of the gang.
I still have at least two questions.
1. The print of Pieces de Luth Composees sur differents Modes is more
often than not dated ca. 1670. But if the allemande Le Bout that it
contains, was taken from Denis Gaultier's second print, Livre de
tablature etc., then it must be after 1672. Correct?
Probably yes. I did not examined and played these pieces.
2. If Antoine and Alexandre were often confused, then who is the
author
of Le Canon contained in the Milleran ms.?
This is good question. But the main problem is we know not much about
Antoine Gallot's music. More evidence could be find about Alexander.
Both died before compiled Ms. Milleran (dated in among other things in
Meyer to ca. 1690), so it could be no possibilities to find there
autograph by Antoine and Alexander. But we possess traces which
indicate to Alexander: e.g. concordances, style his music and
inscriptions - there are some helpful traces to know his music. So e.g.
for Le Canon in
ms. Milleran (f. 30v) we have two concordances (
[2]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=2type=mslang=deums=F-Pn823st=
0 ). One from there is very interesting: F-B279152 (p. 15). There are
inscription with Vieux Gallot. But in his time it was normal to get
pieces from others composers. When we examine others pieces by Vieux
Gallot and Alaxander Gallot we could conclude that mentioned Le Canon
could be attribute to Alexander. Result of this kind of work you could
find in mentioned OEuvres des
Gallot, [CLF], Paris 1987 and e.g. Gallot Jacques, Pieces de Luth, ed.
FranAS:ois Lesure, Faksimile, GenAve 1978 (reprint). Sometimes it is
very hard to determine which one Gallot wrote some pieces even we have
this some traces, because in one source we could find attribute to one
Gallot in other source to other Gallot, like in La canon example.
But still too few evidence to could compare music by Antoine Gallot
with other composers.
Mathias
And Martin, you mentiond about 'Tombeau de Charles De Gallot par De
Gallot d'Irelande'. This article could be intersting also for you: M.
Rollin, Le tombeau chez les luthistes Denis Gautier, Jacques Gallot,
Charles Mouton, XVIIe siAcle, (1954) no. 21-22, pp. 463-79.
Best wishes
Grzegorz
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Odp: Other de Gallots
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:40:26 +0100
From: Martyn Hodgson [3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
To: Grzegorz Joachimiak [4]gjoachim...@wp.pl
Cc: lute List [5]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martin Shepherd
[6]mar...@luteshop.co.uk
What about the guitar de Gallot: Henri Francois de Gallot (ignore
the
computer glich below). The dates in the Ms (Oxford, Bodleian
Library,
Ms. Mus.Sch. C.94) suggest it was complied between 1660 and 1684
and
in England.
There's also possibly even more plucking de Gallots, since on f.
128
is a 'Tombeau de Charles De Gallot par De Gallot d'Irelande'
suggesting two more in addition to Henri Francois..
The 'de Gallot d'Angleterre' mentioned in the Ms is probably Henri
Francois himself, but if not then yet another one surfaces.
MH
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--- On Sun, 20/3/11, Grzegorz Joachimiak [7]gjoachim...@wp.pl
wrote:
From: Grzegorz Joachimiak [8]gjoachim...@wp.pl
Subject: Odp: [LUTE] Other de Gallots
To: Martyn Hodgson [9]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk,
[10]mathias.roe...@t-online.de
Cc: lute List [11]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martin Shepherd
[12]mar...@luteshop.co.uk
Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2011, 14:17
Dear Martin and Mathias,
I would like to pay your attention that Antoine Gallot
