[VIHUELA] Re: Definitions

2014-01-12 Thread Edward C. Yong
Hello!

Well, yes, I know they're specific forms, but it'd be intersting to know how 
each is defined - a specific harmonic progression, a certain rhythm, etc…

Edward Chrysogonus Yong
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On 12 Jan, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Well, you could try the Gaspar Sanz manuscripts :)  Actually, that's a lame 
 joke, but in a way the definition is the music itself, no?  They are specific 
 song forms -- but I'm sure you know that.  You might be looking for the 
 history of each one?  That would indeed be interesting.
 
 From: Edward C. Yong edward.y...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:27 AM
 Subject: [VIHUELA] Definitions
 
 Hi all!
 
 Could anyone advise where I might find definitions of the terms 'Canarios', 
 'Marionas', and so on? Google is no help :(
 
 Thanks!
 
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[VIHUELA] Re: Definitions

2014-01-12 Thread Chris Despopoulos
   Well, turning to Sanz, I can see that a Canarios is based on hemiola,
   is in a major key, moving from I - IV - I - V.  Not being a scholar, I
   can't say with any statistical certainty whether this is definitive
   across all of Spain, the New World, and the rest of Europe.  But it
   seems pretty common to me.
   I'm not trying to be glib.  I think there's plenty of interesting
   material to be found in this question.  I suspect there might be papers
   written about individual song forms, and maybe that's what you should
   be looking for.  For example, I believe the Canarios did transform in
   the New World, but I can't say exactly how, why, or when.  I just know
   I've heard versions that seem to have an American influence.
   OTOH, for reference Sanz lays out the chord structures for most of the
   popular hits of the era in his Alfabeto section, complete with simple
   strumming patterns.  So in a way, that really is a dictionary...
   cud
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   From: Edward C. Yong edward.y...@gmail.com
   To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com
   Cc: Vihuela List vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:35 AM
   Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Definitions
   Hello!
   Well, yes, I know they're specific forms, but it'd be intersting to
   know how each is defined - a specific harmonic progression, a certain
   rhythm, etca|
   Edward Chrysogonus Yong
   [1]edward.y...@gmail.com
   On 12 Jan, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Chris Despopoulos
   [2]despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Well, you could try the Gaspar Sanz manuscripts :)  Actually, that's
   a lame joke, but in a way the definition is the music itself, no?  They
   are specific song forms -- but I'm sure you know that.  You might be
   looking for the history of each one?  That would indeed be interesting.
   
From: Edward C. Yong [3]edward.y...@gmail.com
To: Vihuela List [4]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Definitions
   
Hi all!
   
Could anyone advise where I might find definitions of the terms
   'Canarios', 'Marionas', and so on? Google is no help :(
   
Thanks!
   
Edward Chrysogonus Yong
[5]edward.y...@gmail.com
   
   
   
   
   
   
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