[VIHUELA] Re: Definitions

2014-01-13 Thread Rockford Mjos
Here are a few notes from Esses and Russell that easily at hand to add to 
Monica's comments.


You can get a good taste of Esses' wonderful book(s) at:
http://books.google.com/books?id=L_HDx_z2AaICprintsec=frontcover#v=onepageqf=false
and
http://books.google.com/books?id=g5H9mXHncccCprintsec=frontcover#v=onepageqf=false


Canarios — (danza y baile) Some sources repeat the story that it came from the 
Canary Islands. Arbeau disagreed and said it derived from a composed 
masquerade/ballet where costume used colorful, dyed feathers. Some characterize 
this dance as dignified and courtly, while others claim it to be a 
light-hearted folk dance.  [Russell 1995]

Spain conquered Canary Islands in 1496. One Spanish writer said this 
dance was a graceful type of Saltarello. [Esses 1992] 


Mariones — (baile) Given that marión is a fish (usually sturgeon), the dance 
may have referred originally to fishermen or sailors. But by the mid-17th c. 
the dance may have lost any connection to the sea. Snappy rhythms are jubilant 
and infectious. [Russell 1995]



Spanish made a distinction between two major groups of dances — Danzas and 
bailes. Danzas were stately with a minimal amount of hand movement. Bailes 
(most of them newer than the danzas) were more carefree and used expressive arm 
and hand gestures, often accompanied by castanets. Beginning in the 17th 
century, the bailes become more popular while the danzas’ popularity waned.  By 
the 18th century a number of dances were old standards: españoletas, jacaras, 
foliás, canarios, and villanos. The trendy new-comers: el amor, baylad 
caracoles, la chamberga, imposibles, marsellas,  and las sombras. [Russell 1995]


C.H. Russell: Santiago de Murcia's ‘Códice Saldívar No.4’: a Treasury of 
Secular Guitar Music from Baroque Mexico (Champaign, IL, 1995)


M. Esses: Dance and Instrumental ‘Diferencias’ in Spain During the 17th and 
Early 18th Centuries, i: History and Background, Music and Dance (New York, 
1992)


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On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monica Hall wrote:

 Briefly these things are dances defined by
 
 a.the harmonic sequence on which they are based
 
 b.the metre in which they are played
 
 The canarios is in a major key, based on the harmonic progession I  IV  I V 
 and in 6/8-3/4 time.   The name is supposed to reflect the fact that the 
 dance originated in the Canary Isles.
 
 The marionas is also in a major key, based on the sequence  I   V   vi   IV V 
 and in triple time with similar hemiola.  The origin of the name is a bit 
 obscure.
 
 and so on.
 
 The most weighty tome  (actually 3 tomes) on the subject is Maurice Esses 
 Dance and instrumental diferencias in Spain during the 17th and early 18th 
 centuries.
 
 Monica
 
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 Hi all!
 
 Could anyone advise where I might find definitions of the terms
 'Canarios', 'Marionas', and so on? Google is no help :(
 
 Thanks!
 
 Edward Chrysogonus Yong
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[VIHUELA] Re: Definitions

2014-01-12 Thread Edward C. Yong
Hello!

Well, yes, I know they're specific forms, but it'd be intersting to know how 
each is defined - a specific harmonic progression, a certain rhythm, etc…

Edward Chrysogonus Yong
edward.y...@gmail.com



On 12 Jan, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Well, you could try the Gaspar Sanz manuscripts :)  Actually, that's a lame 
 joke, but in a way the definition is the music itself, no?  They are specific 
 song forms -- but I'm sure you know that.  You might be looking for the 
 history of each one?  That would indeed be interesting.
 
 From: Edward C. Yong edward.y...@gmail.com
 To: Vihuela List vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 
 Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:27 AM
 Subject: [VIHUELA] Definitions
 
 Hi all!
 
 Could anyone advise where I might find definitions of the terms 'Canarios', 
 'Marionas', and so on? Google is no help :(
 
 Thanks!
 
 Edward Chrysogonus Yong
 edward.y...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 To get on or off this list see list information at
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 
 





[VIHUELA] Re: Definitions

2014-01-12 Thread Chris Despopoulos
   Well, turning to Sanz, I can see that a Canarios is based on hemiola,
   is in a major key, moving from I - IV - I - V.  Not being a scholar, I
   can't say with any statistical certainty whether this is definitive
   across all of Spain, the New World, and the rest of Europe.  But it
   seems pretty common to me.
   I'm not trying to be glib.  I think there's plenty of interesting
   material to be found in this question.  I suspect there might be papers
   written about individual song forms, and maybe that's what you should
   be looking for.  For example, I believe the Canarios did transform in
   the New World, but I can't say exactly how, why, or when.  I just know
   I've heard versions that seem to have an American influence.
   OTOH, for reference Sanz lays out the chord structures for most of the
   popular hits of the era in his Alfabeto section, complete with simple
   strumming patterns.  So in a way, that really is a dictionary...
   cud
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   Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Definitions
   Hello!
   Well, yes, I know they're specific forms, but it'd be intersting to
   know how each is defined - a specific harmonic progression, a certain
   rhythm, etca|
   Edward Chrysogonus Yong
   [1]edward.y...@gmail.com
   On 12 Jan, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Chris Despopoulos
   [2]despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Well, you could try the Gaspar Sanz manuscripts :)  Actually, that's
   a lame joke, but in a way the definition is the music itself, no?  They
   are specific song forms -- but I'm sure you know that.  You might be
   looking for the history of each one?  That would indeed be interesting.
   
From: Edward C. Yong [3]edward.y...@gmail.com
To: Vihuela List [4]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Definitions
   
Hi all!
   
Could anyone advise where I might find definitions of the terms
   'Canarios', 'Marionas', and so on? Google is no help :(
   
Thanks!
   
Edward Chrysogonus Yong
[5]edward.y...@gmail.com
   
   
   
   
   
   
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