[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee cyrillienne

2009-08-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Thanks for word.  I hope Oleg's trip proves fruitful.

Eugene


> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> Behalf Of Roman Turovsky
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:57 AM
> To: 'Stuart Walsh'; Eugene C. Braig IV
> Cc: 'Vihuelalist'
> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee cyrillienne
> 
> Oleg is in Kiev, Ukraine on the Fullbright, and he has no internet yet. So
> he won't be able to offer any insight for now.
> RT
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" 
> To: "'Stuart Walsh'" 
> Cc: "'Vihuelalist'" 
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:48 AM
> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee cyrillienne
> 
> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Stuart Walsh [mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:20 AM
> >> To: Eugene C. Braig IV
> >> Cc: 'Vihuelalist'
> >> Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee
> >>
> >> Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
> >> > Oleg is a great scholar and fine player now based in Iowa City, but
> his
> >> > "goes to eleven."
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Timofeyev
> >> >
> >> > Eugene
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Interesting. I got the information about the Russian 10-string guitar
> >> from Oleg's Ph.D thesis (page 58). When I was looking around online I
> >> could only find information (via MO's site) about 11-string Russian
> >> guitars:7+4.
> >>
> >> Oleg is saying, in his thesis, that Russian guitars with extra basses
> >> have the same range as ordinary Russian guitars tuned down a tone.
> Maybe
> >> he has changed his mind. I've never seen music for Russian guitars with
> >> extra basses.
> >>
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >
> > [Eugene C. Braig IV] I'm fairly certain Oleg would be happy to discuss
> > such
> > matters.  I haven't been very faithful about patrolling it for a while,
> > but
> > when I was there with frequency, Oleg was a semi-regular at this forum
> > (requires registration):
> > http://lists.topica.com/lists/guitar-summit
> >
> > Oleg's own site:
> > http://www.semistrunka.com/
> >
> > I've handled Oleg's 11-string guitar, but I just cannot remember the
> maker
> > or details.  I believe it to be a product of the later 19th c.  It is
> very
> > much in the style of the ca. 1860 10-string instruments of the Austrian
> > school typified by Scherzer, but sporting a label in Cyrillic characters
> > (of
> > which I have no ken), 11 strings, and a funny tuning (of course, a core
> of
> > D-G-B-d-g-b-d').  If you do a Google video search for "Oleg Timofeyev",
> > you'll find many examples of him playing it, often in duo.
> >
> > Best,
> > Eugene
> >
> >
> > PS Organologists note: I made up that subject designation.  It is word
> > play
> > only and not a proper reference to any instrument type of which I am
> > aware,
> > so please chuckle rather than hassle me for it.
> >
> >
> >
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >
> 
> 





[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee cyrillienne

2009-08-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
Oleg is in Kiev, Ukraine on the Fullbright, and he has no internet yet. So 
he won't be able to offer any insight for now.

RT


- Original Message - 
From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" 

To: "'Stuart Walsh'" 
Cc: "'Vihuelalist'" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:48 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee cyrillienne



-Original Message-
From: Stuart Walsh [mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:20 AM
To: Eugene C. Braig IV
Cc: 'Vihuelalist'
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
> Oleg is a great scholar and fine player now based in Iowa City, but his
> "goes to eleven."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Timofeyev
>
> Eugene
>
>
Interesting. I got the information about the Russian 10-string guitar
from Oleg's Ph.D thesis (page 58). When I was looking around online I
could only find information (via MO's site) about 11-string Russian
guitars:7+4.

Oleg is saying, in his thesis, that Russian guitars with extra basses
have the same range as ordinary Russian guitars tuned down a tone. Maybe
he has changed his mind. I've never seen music for Russian guitars with
extra basses.


Stuart



[Eugene C. Braig IV] I'm fairly certain Oleg would be happy to discuss 
such
matters.  I haven't been very faithful about patrolling it for a while, 
but

when I was there with frequency, Oleg was a semi-regular at this forum
(requires registration):
http://lists.topica.com/lists/guitar-summit

Oleg's own site:
http://www.semistrunka.com/

I've handled Oleg's 11-string guitar, but I just cannot remember the maker
or details.  I believe it to be a product of the later 19th c.  It is very
much in the style of the ca. 1860 10-string instruments of the Austrian
school typified by Scherzer, but sporting a label in Cyrillic characters 
(of

which I have no ken), 11 strings, and a funny tuning (of course, a core of
D-G-B-d-g-b-d').  If you do a Google video search for "Oleg Timofeyev",
you'll find many examples of him playing it, often in duo.

Best,
Eugene


PS Organologists note: I made up that subject designation.  It is word 
play
only and not a proper reference to any instrument type of which I am 
aware,

so please chuckle rather than hassle me for it.



To get on or off this list see list information at
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[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee cyrillienne

2009-08-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Walsh [mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:20 AM
> To: Eugene C. Braig IV
> Cc: 'Vihuelalist'
> Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee
> 
> Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
> > Oleg is a great scholar and fine player now based in Iowa City, but his
> > "goes to eleven."
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Timofeyev
> >
> > Eugene
> >
> >
> Interesting. I got the information about the Russian 10-string guitar
> from Oleg's Ph.D thesis (page 58). When I was looking around online I
> could only find information (via MO's site) about 11-string Russian
> guitars:7+4.
> 
> Oleg is saying, in his thesis, that Russian guitars with extra basses
> have the same range as ordinary Russian guitars tuned down a tone. Maybe
> he has changed his mind. I've never seen music for Russian guitars with
> extra basses.
> 
> 
> Stuart
> 

[Eugene C. Braig IV] I'm fairly certain Oleg would be happy to discuss such
matters.  I haven't been very faithful about patrolling it for a while, but
when I was there with frequency, Oleg was a semi-regular at this forum
(requires registration):
http://lists.topica.com/lists/guitar-summit

Oleg's own site:
http://www.semistrunka.com/

I've handled Oleg's 11-string guitar, but I just cannot remember the maker
or details.  I believe it to be a product of the later 19th c.  It is very
much in the style of the ca. 1860 10-string instruments of the Austrian
school typified by Scherzer, but sporting a label in Cyrillic characters (of
which I have no ken), 11 strings, and a funny tuning (of course, a core of
D-G-B-d-g-b-d').  If you do a Google video search for "Oleg Timofeyev",
you'll find many examples of him playing it, often in duo.

Best,
Eugene


PS Organologists note: I made up that subject designation.  It is word play
only and not a proper reference to any instrument type of which I am aware,
so please chuckle rather than hassle me for it.



To get on or off this list see list information at
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