[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
Interesting to hear them played in this way! I always thought they wer intended to be sung! Kremberg spent his later years in England and was buried in St. Anne's Church in Soho! I'll have to go and see if I can find his grave sometime. Rob might like to know that in 1702 Kremberg was lute teacher to the children of Lady Griseli Baillie of Mellerstain House in Berwickshire. According to the entry for him in the latest edition of Groves (written by Peter Holman) Kremberg was one of the more incompetant composers of the period but that didn't stop him writing full scale works including some operatic scenes to a play by the Duke of Buckingham! Monica - Original Message - From: "Stuart Walsh" To: "Mjos & Larson" ; "vihuelalist" Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Kremberg pieces as suite Rocky Mjos has made an edition of selected pieces from Kremberg's 'Musicalische Gemuths-Ergotzung' (1689): http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos and I've mad a little suite of seven of them (lasts 5mins 45 seconds!): http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Kremberg.mp3 Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
2009/2/18 Monica Hall <[1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Rob might like to know that in 1702 Kremberg was lute teacher to the children of Lady Griseli Baillie of Mellerstain House in Berwickshire. As was Sainte Colombe the younger... Rob -- References 1. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
That's interesting - tell me more. When did he arrive in Scotland. Monica - Original Message - From: [1]Rob MacKillop To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Stuart Walsh ; [4]Vihuelalist Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite 2009/2/18 Monica Hall <[5]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Rob might like to know that in 1702 Kremberg was lute teacher to the children of Lady Griseli Baillie of Mellerstain House in Berwickshire. As was Sainte Colombe the younger... Rob -- References 1. mailto:luteplay...@googlemail.com 2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 4. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
I have it somewhere, but will have to get back to you. His name is in her account books. Rob 2009/2/18 Monica Hall <[1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> That's interesting - tell me more. When did he arrive in Scotland. Monica - Original Message - From: [1]Rob MacKillop To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Stuart Walsh ; [4]Vihuelalist Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite 2009/2/18 Monica Hall <[5][2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Rob might like to know that in 1702 Kremberg was lute teacher to the children of Lady Griseli Baillie of Mellerstain House in Berwickshire. As was Sainte Colombe the younger... Rob -- References 1. mailto:[3]luteplay...@googlemail.com 2. mailto:[4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. mailto:[5]s.wa...@ntlworld.com 4. mailto:[6]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:[7]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. mailto:luteplay...@googlemail.com 4. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 5. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 6. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
From David Johnson's 'Music and Society in Lowland Scotland' [OUP 1972 - but there is an updated reprint from - I think - two years ago]. I've copied all the spellings from this book. The entries [from Lady Grisell Bailie (1665-1746)] date from 1701 to 1714... To Grisies (the daughter) singing master Krenberg 14 pounds 4 For Grisies singing to Mr Krenberg 7 pounds 8 To Mr Kramberg, Grisells singing master for the mounth past 7pounds 8 To Grisis singing master Cremberg 7pounds 8 For mounthes at the violl to Grisie with Sinc kolum - 12pounds For 2 mounth to Grisie with St Culume on the vyolle, etc 15pounds 3 [There are many more payments for musical services, but none mention either Kramberg or St Colombe] Rob: There is a manuscript of 6-string viol music by St Colombe from this period in Durham Cathedral library, and much of it has been recorded by my partner in crime, Jonathan Dunford. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Bravo! Very nicely played, Stuart. I suspect it is a world premiere recording, too! Thanks for giving such a nice voice to those tablature notes and for sharing this playing with the group. -- Rocky On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: > http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Kremberg.mp3 -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
Is it too late to get some Kremberg on your new Scottish CD? On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: From David Johnson's 'Music and Society in Lowland Scotland' [OUP 1972 - but there is an updated reprint from - I think - two years ago]. I've copied all the spellings from this book. The entries [from Lady Grisell Bailie (1665-1746)] date from 1701 to 1714... To Grisies (the daughter) singing master Krenberg 14 pounds 4 For Grisies singing to Mr Krenberg 7 pounds 8 To Mr Kramberg, Grisells singing master for the mounth past 7pounds 8 To Grisis singing master Cremberg 7pounds 8 For mounthes at the violl to Grisie with Sinc kolum - 12pounds For 2 mounth to Grisie with St Culume on the vyolle, etc 15pounds 3 [There are many more payments for musical services, but none mention either Kramberg or St Colombe] Rob: There is a manuscript of 6-string viol music by St Colombe from this period in Durham Cathedral library, and much of it has been recorded by my partner in crime, Jonathan Dunford. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
Fascinating. Many thanks. Monica - Original Message - From: "Rob MacKillop" To: "Monica Hall" Cc: "Vihuelalist" Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite From David Johnson's 'Music and Society in Lowland Scotland' [OUP 1972 - but there is an updated reprint from - I think - two years ago]. I've copied all the spellings from this book. The entries [from Lady Grisell Bailie (1665-1746)] date from 1701 to 1714... To Grisies (the daughter) singing master Krenberg 14 pounds 4 For Grisies singing to Mr Krenberg 7 pounds 8 To Mr Kramberg, Grisells singing master for the mounth past 7pounds 8 To Grisis singing master Cremberg 7pounds 8 For mounthes at the violl to Grisie with Sinc kolum - 12pounds For 2 mounth to Grisie with St Culume on the vyolle, etc 15pounds 3 [There are many more payments for musical services, but none mention either Kramberg or St Colombe] Rob: There is a manuscript of 6-string viol music by St Colombe from this period in Durham Cathedral library, and much of it has been recorded by my partner in crime, Jonathan Dunford. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: Kremberg pieces as suite
Looks like I'll need to propose Volume 2... Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html