Re: [Viking-devel] Out of date maps

2012-11-10 Thread Greg Troxel

Phil phil_...@bigpond.com writes:

 On 09/11/12 11:06, Greg Troxel wrote:

 You could edit OSM to make your town up
 to date (without copying from proprietary maps, of course).  I've done
 that in my town, including entering trails, so that OSM is now the best
 map available.


 It turns out that adding a couple missing streets to OSM was nowhere 
 near as difficult as I had imagined.

I'm glad to hear it.  I hope you will find it fun to keep adding other
details.  I had a plan to make trail maps all by myself, long ago
(around 1999), but found it too daunting and never got to it, and was
glad to discover OSM, with tools, the database, and the community
already there.

A bit OT, but something I think most viking users would find
interesting: the program mkgmap (described on the OSM wiki) converts OSM
data to Garmin format, for use with etrex/nuvi/oregon/etc.  There is
also 'osmand' that runs on android to display maps (from offline vector
data).

 The only minor problem that I have not solved yet is how to have Viking 
 download the new map rather than use the existing cached map. If I 
 change the zoom level then the new map is downloaded. Perhaps the 
 simplest option is to delete the cached map?

Right-click on the 'mapnik' layer on the layer pane, and find 'reload
all onscreen maps'.  I think that will cause you to reload tiles that
you know are out of date, but not burden the server re-requesting
everything.

By default, viking caches OSM tiles for a long time, to comply with
OSM's tile usage policy (basically due to limited resources to provide
tile service to the world).


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[Viking-devel] Viking 1.3 Screen Cast

2012-11-10 Thread Robert Norris

I've finally got around to making a screen cast

http://vimeo.com/53209746

Also see:
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/viking/index.php?title=Screencast

Let me know what you think.

I don't think I'll give up my day job for a career in broadcasting...

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[Viking-devel] Viking manual under Kubuntu

2012-11-10 Thread Phil
Thank you for reading this and I hope it's not an off-topic question.

Firstly, I have searched Google for a solution, exhausted all 
possibilities on the Kubuntu mailing list and installed all likely packages.

I have two Linux distributions, one that I've used for 17 years 
(including it's ancestors) and now I'm trialling Kubuntu. I have 
installed the same Viking source file (version 1.3.2.1) under both 
installations but the manual is not displayed under Kubuntu. I've also 
installed the Ubuntu Viking package and the result is the same - no 
manual when help or F1 is pressed. There are no messages displayed on 
the console even when the debug or verbose options are used. The Viking 
directories are identical under both installations.

I'm wondering if I'm the only person on the planet to have this problem 
or if this a known issue with a solution.

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Re: [Viking-devel] Viking manual under Kubuntu

2012-11-10 Thread Robert Norris


 Firstly, I have searched Google for a solution, exhausted all
 possibilities on the Kubuntu mailing list and installed all likely packages.

 I have two Linux distributions, one that I've used for 17 years
 (including it's ancestors) and now I'm trialling Kubuntu. I have
 installed the same Viking source file (version 1.3.2.1) under both
 installations but the manual is not displayed under Kubuntu. I've also
 installed the Ubuntu Viking package and the result is the same - no
 manual when help or F1 is pressed. There are no messages displayed on
 the console even when the debug or verbose options are used. The Viking
 directories are identical under both installations.

 I'm wondering if I'm the only person on the planet to have this problem
 or if this a known issue with a solution.


Interesting, as I've only just been looking at some of this today.

Viking's help should be installed in /usr/share/gnome/help/viking/C/viking.xml
(possibly /usr/local/share/gnome/help/viking/C/viking.xml if installed from the 
source)

I'm not quite sure of how the installation for the help is actually controlled.

My Ubuntu 12.10 system works fine in opening the help. IIRC 12.04 seemed to 
work OK too.

Which version of Ubuntu are you using? Older Ubuntu versions used even older 
versions Viking which have various shortcomings.

Some other things you can try:

See if the main help text is anywhere on your system(s) try on the command line:

locate viking.xml

The help is invoked is via this C call gtk_show_uri ('ghelp:viking') 

I suspect the Kubuntu doesn't support the 'ghelp' mechanism without yelp and/or 
other stuff installed.



Try on the command line:

yelp ghelp:viking

I note we don't check the return value of gtk_show_uri, nor the error code it 
returns. So ATM it will fail silently.

I will fix this. NB There is also a small chance it doesn't use gtk_show_uri(), 
but it fails silently there too. 

By the way I have been working a little bit on the manual, and the latest 
version has been updated on the Wiki.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/viking/index.php?title=Users_Manual

(Now includes a little bit about the Map Cache Scheme)

HTH.
  
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