Re: [Viking-devel] Segmentation fault with git HEAD

2014-08-03 Thread Nick Allen

Hi,

Sorry, most of the technical stuff referred to is above my head, but I 
may be able to help with an explanation of why the technical people put 
a loop in.


At one point, when the age limit for a tile was reached, and the 
programme was started, it immediately deleted the old tile(s) before it 
tried to download the new. No issue most of the time, but if for 
instance you downloaded tiles before going on a holiday so you could use 
viking whilst away but without internet, you could find after a week or 
so that all of your map tiles had deleted!


Thanks for your work on this.

Nick

On 03/08/14 12:12, Mike wrote:

Rob,

Thanks for diving in this, also been on holiday.

I agree with your understanding:


There are two data structures in the mapcache:
1. An actual hash containing keys against map tiles - this makes sense.
2. A circular linked list queue (using own implementation - I don't think there 
is a glib support for ringbuffers)

I don't understand the point of the second one. The queue seems to be 
equivalent of the hash cache and used just to compare the keys stored in 
deciding which ones can be removed.

   After further thought, I now believe the second data structure has
use of a LIFO queue, so that when the maximum cache size is reached it
removes the oldest tiles (in terms of being added to the map cache).

I still not get though why some kind of circular list was used, that
only complicates things.
If the need indeed is to remove the oldest tiles a singly-linked list
(g_slist) should suffice and make things clearer.

   I have committed a basic fix for this which checks tmp before trying
to use it.
I did a git pull and tried to compile things but got an compile error:

$ gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
-DVIKING_DATADIR=\/usr/local/share/viking\
-DVIKING_SYSCONFDIR=\/usr/local/etc/viking\ -Wall -g -D_GNU_SOURCE
-pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/libpng12
-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/libpng16
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -g -O2 -MT
mapcache.o -MD -MP -MF $depbase.Tpo -c -o mapcache.o mapcache.c \
mv -f $depbase.Tpo $depbase.Po
mapcache.c: In function ‘a_mapcache_init’:
mapcache.c:67:3: warning: ‘g_mutex_new’ is deprecated (declared at
/usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/deprecated/gthread.h:272)
[-Wdeprecated-declarations]
mc_mutex = g_mutex_new();
^
mapcache.c: In function ‘cache_add’:
mapcache.c:73:8: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
if ( g_hash_table_insert ( cache, key, pixbuf ) ) {
^
make[3]: *** [mapcache.o] Error 1

$ /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.18 (git ), by Roland
McGrath et al.

Indeed, at least some glib versions,
https://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.26/glib-Hash-Tables.html#g-hash-table-insert,
return void for g_hash_table_insert, so did a cache_remove as first step
op the cache_add.

While doing so I saw this g_hash_table_insert problem,
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692815, could it be related
to the root cause of problems?

   However since the map cache is 'working' well enough, I'm
concentrating on adding other features.

Sure, let me see how stable it is for me and if not, try to come up with
a patch.

Mike.

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 12:16:51 +0100
Subject: Re: [Viking-devel] Segmentation fault with git HEAD


Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:35:49 +0200
From: em...@gmx.net
To: viking-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Viking-devel] Segmentation fault with git HEAD

Not sure if the intention is that the Viking git master branch is
always clean but I did try it anyhow.

I compiled the code based on git index 4200b261[*] and see that I can
easily trigger a Segmentation fault:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x9f851b40 (LWP 6998)]
0x080b41b6 in a_mapcache_remove_all_shrinkfactors (x=x@entry=1051,
y=y@entry=675, z=0, type=13, zoom=zoom@entry=6) at mapcache.c:187
187 if ( strncmp(tmp-key, key, len) == 0 )


We've traced this due to the variable tmp being NULL, thus trying to perform 
tmp-key results in the crash.

Further I don't understand the circumstances that leads to this condition, 
however it has caused me to look at the code in mapcache in general.

I have committed a basic fix for this which checks tmp before trying to use it.


There are two data structures in the mapcache:
1. An actual hash containing keys against map tiles - this makes sense.
2. A circular linked list queue (using own implementation - I don't think there 
is a glib support for ringbuffers)

I don't understand the point of the second one. The queue seems to be 
equivalent of the hash cache and used just to compare the keys stored in 
deciding 

Re: [Viking-devel] License dialog (Was: Viking 1.5 Plan to Release by Sept 6th)

2013-09-13 Thread Nick Allen

Hi,

A couple of thoughts on this;

The OSM front page with the map merely has an attribution at the bottom 
right of the screen in exactly the same way as Viking does after the OSM 
Mapnik map has been loaded. You are not required to acknowlege the 
attribution before you zoom or search on the site.


OSM itself has data derived from other sources, and it acknowledges this 
by having a page on its wiki which you have to search for;  
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors


My conclusion is, the suggestion of having something that does not 
interrupt the flow i.e. Perhaps can we keep an in-the-flow dialog, 
but storing the choice on disk in order to avoid answering the same 
question again and again. by Guilhem is an excellent one, as is an 
'about' page where you can click on the link if you wish to. As you can 
maps from alternative sources, I don't know if you need to consider this 
before making a decision? -  could get a little complicated! Perhaps a 
general statement somewhere to the affect that users should only use the 
maps in accord to the individual owner / suppliers licence.


I use OSM data on my Garmin  on my Android phone (Osmand for 
navigation, and NeonGeo or C:Geo for geocaching), and no other source 
reminds me every time that I load it that there is a licence which I 
have to acknowledge, so it may be time to move on. My Garmin satnav 
using Garmin mapping just loads  works.


Licence / License - I think it depends where in the world you are - From 
Wikipedia - The verb *license* or *grant license* means to give 
permission. The noun *license* (American English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences) 
or *licence* (British English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences,^[1] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License#cite_note-1 Indian English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_English,^[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License#cite_note-2 Canadian English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_English,^[3] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License#cite_note-3 Australian English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English,^[4] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License#cite_note-4 New Zealand English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_English,^[5] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License#cite_note-5 South African English 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_English^[6] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License#cite_note-6 ) refers to that 
permission as well as to the document recording that permission.
Personally I seem to have been spelling it both/either way for years  
didn't realise there was a difference until you mentioned it.


Regards

Nick (Tallguy)

On 13/09/13 11:30, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote:

Hi,

2013/9/13 Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com 
mailto:rw_nor...@hotmail.com


Well, I'm nearing completion for 1.5 - which will now be after
this coming weekend - to give anyone a chance to use the latest
source.

There is one last item I would appreciate feedback on (with this
patch attached) - this hasn't be applied to the code repository yet...

Originally I noticed I had spelt license 'wrong' - I had used
licence''. So I was just going to align the spelling, but then it
got me thinking:

Why do we introduce the About this License dialog, every time
one adds a map?

No other software as far as I know generates such a warning with
an interruption to one's work flow.

So instead I just shifted it to be an 'About' menu action from the
map layer.

Thus this license information is always available, which it wasn't
before.


I introduced this About this license dialog. Originally, I do so 
because it seems really really important to ensure user is informed 
about the license related to data he works with. I don't know how 
other similar tools treat such topic. I just know that some other 
tools working with license (like Eclipse when you install plugins) 
insert a dialog where the user must accept or decline license, even 
open-source related licenses.


It is good to have such info in a About menu, but this cannot be the 
only solution as it is less informative: a not skilled user won't open 
such dialog to discover subtilities of map's license, IMHO.


Perhaps can we keep an in-the-flow dialog, but storing the choice on 
disk in order to avoid answering the same question again and again.

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Re: [Viking-devel] skip-same patch

2012-01-18 Thread Nick Allen
Rob,

Sorry if I've wasted anyones time looking into what appeared initially 
to be a viking problem.

Having experimented a little more I now know that viking is not 
responsible for my laptop crashing - it has now crashed several times 
using other programmes only, and it's problems don't seem to be related 
to the 'load'. The screen does not dim when it crashes. The screen 
remains showing whatever I was working on,  the keyboard  mouse become 
unresponsive - it does not recover from this no matter how long it is 
left. Not a viking problem.

In terms of the screen dimming when loading a number of tracks at once, 
this is only a minor problem for me as the laptop always recovers 
(except sometimes in my case when using the defective laptop!).

Regards

Nick

On 13/01/12 02:39, Robert Norris wrote:

 All my tracks, hiking, car  cycle, are 1 second interval,  I
 frequently deal with multiple tracks created during the course of a
 days cycling or walking.

 The majority of my tracks are created by a Garmin Oregon 300. When I
 load the tracks (generally using file / append) my laptop screen dims
 everything freezes for several seconds, but always recovers. If there
 After loading each individual gpx file, Viking generates a redraw at the view 
 to see all of that gpx.

 This means if there's a map layer present it will load/download tiles
 for that view too (reading lots map tiles from disk times a little time)



 At present it's not clever enough to only do the redraw when the last gpx is 
 opened.



 This should be simple to generate the code improvement.



 are several tracks with many waypoints the programme may become slower
   ^^

 Using many waypoints* will slow Viking down as it's written using the 
 traditional (i.e. slow Gdk API graphics functions)**.


 But there is a workaround by adjusting the TrackWaypoint Layer Properties, 
 Waypoints tab:



 1. Turn off 'Draw Labels'

   - This seems to make the biggest difference as drawing text to the viewport 
 is slow (especially when panning the screen around)



 2. Turn off 'Draw Waypoint Symbols'***





 * Interestingly only just discovered this - helped by using some 1000 
 Waypoint gpxs.

 I use Viking with massive tracklogs, so I don't really notice this issue.
 Behaviour is worse on my laptop then the desktop, presumably since the laptop 
 is of a lower spec.



 ** Rewriting Viking to use cairo / champlain for the main view is a
 possibility  but don't hold your breath for this little volunteer
 project.



 *** There might be a way for this to scale up better, however the main
 slow down is in point 1, so IMHO there's not much incentive to attempt
 to address this.

 but still functions. However, I need to save the file at an early
 stage, and then keep saving at regular intervals as I edit the tracks,
 combining them, removing duplicates, and uploading them to OSM etc. If
 I don't regularly save the whole laptop will freeze and not recover,
 necessitating holding the power button for a few seconds to switch it
 off, and then starting again. I don't have evidence of this, but
 creating a track/route seems to use even more resources, so my laptop
 may crash more often - again frequent saving stops this.
 The whole laptop freezing seems a symptom of allocation vast amounts of 
 memory and the system locks up. Eventually the OOM Killer may kick in a 
 removes a lucky program. I don't think there are any severe memory leaks or 
 memory allocations in Viking (other then DEMs) 

 The only cause I know of in Viking is opening *lots* of DEMs (i.e. over 50 or 
 more).
 Redrawing with DEMs is also very slow as they recalculate every point on 
 display.
 For using DEMs (this is how I do it:), is to load them in for your area - my 
 machine copes with coverage of the UK for example *but keep the layer 
 invisible*.
 Since you probably have OSM tiles for map view anyway, the DEMs don't need to 
 be visible but they'll still be used the other DEM functionality: the cursor 
 height readout, track creation and track property elevation display.


 It may be that a feature that regularly saves to disk at 2 minute
 intervals would alleviate this?
 This maybe something to add.

 I hasten to add, this is not a complaint - you asked, so I'm answering.
 I'm a long term fan of viking  recommend it to friends. I also think
 that Ubuntu may be partially to blame here, as the performance of the
 laptops seems to have reduced over the last 2 versions of Ubuntu. It's
 difficult for me to say if other programmes can cause similar effects,
 but I do know that 'Evolution' the PIM programme is resource heavy and
 can slow my system causing similar problems. I think the problems
 partially depend on the other programmes running - Thunderbird causes
 less problems than Evolution, Chromium causes less problems than
 Firefox.
 I'm glad you're a fan.

 My computer is a laptop, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz  with

Re: [Viking-devel] skip-same patch

2012-01-11 Thread Nick Allen

Greg,

All my tracks, hiking, car  cycle, are 1 second interval,  I 
frequently deal with multiple tracks created during the course of a days 
cycling or walking.


The majority of my tracks are created by a Garmin Oregon 300. When I 
load the tracks (generally using file / append) my laptop screen dims  
everything freezes for several seconds, but always recovers. If there 
are several tracks with many waypoints the programme may become slower 
but still functions. However, I need to save the file at an early stage, 
and then keep saving at regular intervals as I edit the tracks, 
combining them, removing duplicates, and uploading them to OSM etc. If I 
don't regularly save the whole laptop will freeze and not recover, 
necessitating holding the power button for a few seconds to switch it 
off, and then starting again. I don't have evidence of this, but 
creating a track/route seems to use even more resources, so my laptop 
may crash more often - again frequent saving stops this.


It may be that a feature that regularly saves to disk at 2 minute 
intervals would alleviate this?


I hasten to add, this is not a complaint - you asked, so I'm answering. 
I'm a long term fan of viking  recommend it to friends. I also think 
that Ubuntu may be partially to blame here, as the performance of the 
laptops seems to have reduced over the last 2 versions of Ubuntu. It's 
difficult for me to say if other programmes can cause similar effects, 
but I do know that 'Evolution' the PIM programme is resource heavy and 
can slow my system causing similar problems. I think the problems 
partially depend on the other programmes running - Thunderbird causes 
less problems than Evolution, Chromium causes less problems than Firefox.


My computer is a laptop, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz  with 
4GB of ram, running Ubuntu 11.10 (can also boot into windows 7, where 
there is a version of Viking as well, but I rarely do this  don't know 
if a similar problem exists). My laptop currently uses Viking 1.2.1 from 
the ubuntu repository, but I have used other versions loaded from git 
with the same results. I also make use of other laptops of various 
specs.  other versions of viking with similar results.


I'm quite happy to try different versions, but you may have to keep the 
instructions simple as I'm definitely a user as opposed to a programmer!


Thanks for your work on Viking.

Regards

Nick (OSM = Tallguy)On 09/01/12 00:47, Greg Troxel wrote:

It looks like someone (Rob?) has integrated my skip_same patch to only
draw points if they are different from the previous - thanks!

I am curious what people think of the drawing speed, especially those
who routinely take 1s tracklogs when hiking.




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[Viking-devel] 'Open Recent File'

2011-12-22 Thread Nick Allen
Hi,

I'm using viking 1.2.1 from the Ubuntu repository (thanks to whoever got
the version updated for Ubuntu).

When opening viking, under 'File menu' there is an option to select a
recently used file. However, whichever one in the list I click on (with
mouse), viking always loads the top one in the list.

Keep up the good work, it is appreciated.

Regards

Nick 
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Re: [Viking-devel] tile age 30s ???

2011-05-25 Thread Nick Allen
Hi,

As a 'user' as opposed to a developer, this would get my vote  would
save me firing up the calculator!

'
  I've just found the Tile usage policy of OSM. They request
  downloaders use HTTP Expiry Header or 1 week age per default. We have
  to change the value in Viking's code.

  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy

OK, so in order to be good OSM citizens

  change the units to days (I don't see why not)

  set the default value to 7 (days) (definitely)

  only allow 7 and up for a config (probably)

  people who want to reload things can use 'reload all onscreen tiles'

Regards

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[Viking-devel] OSM NoName

2009-07-19 Thread Nick Allen
Hi,

Most of my use of Viking is to do with surveying  updating on OSM.  It
would really make this a lot easier if one of the map layers available
to me was 'OSM NoName'.

I'm afraid I don't know enough to do any 'coding' for this, and in fact
will have to wait for an update on Ubuntu before I can benefit from any
changes that are made, unless someone can point me towards an idiots
guide to how to update Viking to the latest version.

Even if this can't be done, quick vote of thanks for the work so far -
using Viking has made my OSM editing a lot easier  also helps me to
actually use the mapping information.

Thanks again

Nick


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