Re: Vim 8 enhancements
--- Martin Stubenschrott [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Now that there are many new - good, or not - ideas coming up. I think it would be a great idea, if the voting page on: http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php becomes updated with new ideas, and old ones get deleted/changed. Agreed. I was updating my votes to remove features that have been implemented, and i really wished i had a few new features to vote for. Due to the growing lack of options, i voted several times for the same features :-D __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: BOF Vim 8 - Suggestions
--- A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Georg Dahn wrote: Hi! --- A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These two are V7 only, so: if exists(*pumvisible) inoremap expr Down pumvisible() ? \ltDown : \ltC-Ogj inoremap expr Up pumvisible() ? \ltUp : \ltC-Ogj else inoremap Down C-Ogj inoremap Up C-Ogk endif (...) noremap S-Down gj noremap S-Up gk inoremap S-Down C-OghC-Ogj inoremap S-Up C-OghC-Ogk nnoremap S-Down ghC-Ogj nnoremap S-Up ghC-Ogk With these mappings invoking the selection mode works more consistently with above mappings. This is getting complicated... That's why i suggested a single command that unified all of this, and would not conflict with pop-up menus or anything. __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: BOF Vim 8 - Suggestions
--- A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: I have files where I intentionally have long lines and I use gj and gk (so much that I've remapped them to Up and Down). I don't see why you gripe about a bunch of mappings: the mappings I need, or want, are in my vimrc or in some other script, and they are part of my Vim settings -- they don't count as a bunch, since I don't have to do them over every time Vim starts. To edit long lines, i have a script that does the work. But i don't use it all the time, so i havent put it in vimrc. Vim already has a few options that are responsible for setting other options, such as 'binary' and :behave. Maybe it could have more of this kind of settings (something like this has been suggested earlier in this thread, but i guess the comparison with 'binary' and :behave had not been made yet). If the user wants to edit long lines, (s)he cannot write a quick mapping on-the-fly, because he needs something like this: map buffer silent up gk imap buffer silent up C-ogk map buffer silent down gj imap buffer silent down C-ogj map buffer silent home ghome imap buffer silent home C-oghome map buffer silent end gend imap buffer silent end C-ogend ***May i suggest a new command (or a standard plugin that is easy to find) that would do all of the above in one easy step?*** Optionally, the user could want this too: setlocal linebreak setlocal nolist Necessary for linebreak setlocal display+=lastline I'm not sure if it's OK or if it's going too far :-) I use these mappings too: imap F12 C-ogwip nmap F12 gwip vmap F12 gw But I agree that they are just personal preference and would not integrate seamlessly with the Vim command structure. BTW, I also miss Ctrl+A (increment number) in Windows mode and Ctrl+Q is a weird alternative for Ctrl+V, but i can live with that ;-_). However, the Ctrl+X functionality is not lost, since cut only works if there is something selected. __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: BOF Vim 8 - Suggestions
--- A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
This approach has already been attempted, not just once as Bram said, but at
least twice (evim and mswin.vim), and the results are far from convincing:
easy vim is actually harder to use, and mswin.vim makes some useful Vim
features inacessible, and for others, forces constant reminders everywhere in
the help and in support mailing lists: If you use Ctrl-V to paste, use
Ctrl-Q
instead whenever the help says to use Ctrl-V.
Cream for Vim may be a third attempt but I'm not sure, I haven't looked
into it.
I think i must defend mswin.vim here (and :behave mswin) ;-)
Some shortcuts are really invaluable:
Ctrl+S (save, compare to :w; i use Ctrl+S a lot!), Ctrl+Tab (next window,
compare to Ctrl+W, W), Ctrl+Z (undo... i'm so used to Ctrl+Z...),
Others, such as Ctrl+A (select all) and Ctrl+V (paste) do conflict with other
commands, but compare them to ggVG and +p
Sometimes i miss Ctrl+Backspace (for delete word backward) and Ctrl+Delete
(delete word forward).
My main gripe about Vim commands is that gj and gk are almost unusable without
a bunch of mappings, and formatting a paragraph takes 4 keys (gwip - i hav
mapped it to F12). Well, if you format the paragraph you don't need gj and gk,
but you get the idea... ;-)
I do like Vim commands, but the commands Ctrl+{A,Z,X,C,V,Y,Tab} are so widely
available that i'm used to use them in Vim too.
Marcus
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