Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he doesn't have such an executable. I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. Hello! Thank you for your suggestions -- as I mentioned, I'll be including a synopsis in netrw's help. Looks like there're four solutions: putty, openssh, gnuwin32, and including a couple of files from cygwin (although for that last case I'm not sure how one would get just the two without downloading the entire distribution). It'll be netrw-problem #8 (:help netrw-P8). Regards, Chip Campbell The Cygwin distribution is made up of a large number of small packages which can be downloaded separately. You can opt for the large economy package with bells, whistles, and Christmas gift wrapping, or else download one small set of basic functions required by all the rest, plus whatever additional software packages you want. I suggested GnuWin32 on general principles, but I haven't actually checked whether it offers an ssh program. Best regards, Tony.
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he doesn't have such an executable. I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. Hello! Thank you for your suggestions -- as I mentioned, I'll be including a synopsis in netrw's help. Looks like there're four solutions: putty, openssh, gnuwin32, and including a couple of files from cygwin (although for that last case I'm not sure how one would get just the two without downloading the entire distribution). It'll be netrw-problem #8 (:help netrw-P8). Regards, Chip Campbell
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "A.J.Mechelynck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2006-12-01 04:58:02: >> For individual Unix-like programs needed for work in a native-Windows >> environment, I recommend getting them from the GnuWin32 project on >> sourceforge >> if it has them ( http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ or something like that; > not >> 100% sure of the URL). Unlike Cygwin, which sets up a Unix-like virtual >> machine on top of Windows, GnuWin32 is a rewrite of Unix utilities with >> Windows system calls, and its programs works quite well in the cmd. >> exe "Dos box". >> >> I have also occasionally tested unxutils but not with as much success. > > A virtual machine emulates things so that the performance degrades. If > Cygwin is really an emulation engine to build a virtual machine, it will > have poor performance. But that is not the case. Compile the same source > within Cygwin and Visual C++, chances are that you will get better > performance in Cygwin! > > Cygwin is not setting up a unix-like virtual machine, instead, it redirect > Unix system call to Windows system call at source level, so the performance > is as good as Windows Native applications. > > An example: I had compiled 3 versions of LAME 3.97, on Cygwin, Visual C++ 7 > and Ubuntu Linux, and had done a thorough test, the Cygwin version of the > lame.exe has the best performance. it is even faster than the same > application compiled under linux in the same computer with the same version > of gcc. > > -- > Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606 > > I'm not talking about the programs produced by the MinGW-for-Cygwin compiler and linker (gcc compiler with -mno-cygwin and gcc linker with -mwindows), which is a cross-compiler and cross-linker, but about the cygwin1.dll and the programs which use it. These programs are doing Unix system calls, which the cygwin1.dll translates into Windows system calls. The programs you talk about (including Steve Hall's Vim for Windows) are doing Windows system calls at the C-object-library level, even though they were compiled by a compiler and linker issuing Unix system calls to the cygwin1.dll. With Windows plus cygwin1.dll you have a "virtual Unix kernel" emulated by the DLL running on top of Windows. I stand my case. Best regards, Tony.
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
* El 30/11/06 a las 11:21, Charles E Campbell Jr chamullaba: > Hello! > > I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he > doesn't have such an executable. > I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home > instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. > > So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? > > I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. Chip, I don't use windows at all, and I don't know how much flexibility you need on the client, but it appears to me that PUTTY is one of the most widely used modern SSH clients for windows, because it is simple and reasonably complete (for example, it allows you to easily make a ssh tunneling to some host to use its SOCKS server; very useful if you can only access some site from some hosts, and you are on another). However, I have no idea how 'scriptable' is putty, if you want to use VIM with it. Hope this helps, Luis.
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
Marlin Unruh wrote: > Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he >> doesn't have such an executable. >> I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home >> instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. >> >> So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? >> >> I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. >> >> Thank you, >> Chip Campbell >> >> >> > > Here is a program I use and it works fine. It's just a single exe. > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html > > -- > Marlin Unruh I support that. PuTTY rules!
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
On 11/30/06, Charles E Campbell Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? I would recommend putty, especially if you just need scp and sftp for netrw - you can use pscp and psftp from here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: Hello! I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he doesn't have such an executable. I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. Thank you, Chip Campbell For individual Unix-like programs needed for work in a native-Windows environment, I recommend getting them from the GnuWin32 project on sourceforge if it has them ( http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ or something like that; not 100% sure of the URL). Unlike Cygwin, which sets up a Unix-like virtual machine on top of Windows, GnuWin32 is a rewrite of Unix utilities with Windows system calls, and its programs works quite well in the cmd.exe "Dos box". I have also occasionally tested unxutils but not with as much success. Best regards, Tony.
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30-Nov-06, at 11:21 AM, Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he doesn't have such an executable. Putty is the most common solution - although I haven't used it in conjunction with Vim... http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFbyHjGnOmb9xIQHQRAgTOAKDY8CQ/KaD2sYrQKq8N7EofC+LwOgCdHStV /NoJZqDAcRlJqogH9rXCFd8= =WZMF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: Hello! I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he doesn't have such an executable. I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. Thank you, Chip Campbell Here is a program I use and it works fine. It's just a single exe. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html -- Marlin Unruh
Re: suggestions for ssh under windows
Hi, Maybe he can try OpenSSH for windows from here : http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ It doesn't need the full Cygwin package. Best regards, Vissale 2006/11/30, Charles E Campbell Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello! I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he doesn't have such an executable. I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. Thank you, Chip Campbell
suggestions for ssh under windows
Hello! I have a netrw user using WinXP who wants to use ssh; currently, he doesn't have such an executable. I tend to use cygwin, but that's like asking one to build a home instead of new cabinets for the kitchen. So, where can he get ssh for WinXP? I'm likely to put a synopsis of any answers in netrw's help. Thank you, Chip Campbell
