Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2018-02-12 Thread Felipe M. Vieira
Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the valuable suggestions.

The method I found out to be the most suitable, dependecy free and sane
(this is highly personal) was to write bash tests which in turn invokes
vim with a given number of flags and which sources a given script which
ends with either "qall!" (exit code 0) or "cquit!" (exit code 1). You
can check an example of such tests in:

1. https://github.com/python-mode/python-mode/blob/develop/tests/test.sh
2. https://github.com/fmv1992/vim_dictionary/blob/dev/tests/test.sh

Example:

Bash invokes:
$ vim -i NONE -u /tmp/vimdict_vimrc -c 'source 
./test_procedures_vimscript/lookup1.vim' /tmp/vimdict_disposable.py

File `./test_procedures_vimscript/lookup1.vim` has:
~~
" [...]
" Put assertions before.
call assert_true(bufexists('vim_dictionary-scratch'))

if len(v:errors) > 0
echom "Exiting lookup1 with errors" . join(v:errors, '|')
cquit!
else
qall!
endif
~~

It is also worth noting that vim's `verbosefile` option is valuable as
well.

Best wishes for the vim community,

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-23 Thread Lifepillar

On 19/10/2017 23:36, Marcin Szamotulski wrote:

On 11:10 Thu 19 Oct , Felipe Vieira wrote:

Hi everyone,

I've been trying to develop a plugin and I'm used to writing testing for the
softwares I develop. The problem is that I cannot find a suitable testing
platform for vim plugins. 

>
> [...]
>

Hi Felipe,

I've been missing a testing suite for vim too.  One possible solution is
to use the same technique that vim is using itself to test the code.
There are now bunch of assert functions (:h assert_equal(), etc.).


Here you may find a minimal script based on Vim functions:

https://gist.github.com/lifepillar/b5018945561e024eeb9fc57650fc5d61

Just write the tests at the top of the script using the above-mentioned
assert functions, then source it.

Depending of what you are looking for, that might be all you need. For
something more sophisticated than that, you may take a look at Vim's
own test suite, from which my snippet is derived.

Enjoy,
Life.

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-22 Thread Felipe M. Vieira
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Hey all,

thanks for all of your replies. I will dutifully check those soon!

With so many options I feel like I was not looking at the right places.

I shall give a feedback on those in a couple of weeks.

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-20 Thread Charles Campbell
Felipe Vieira wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been trying to develop a plugin and I'm used to writing testing for the
> softwares I develop. The problem is that I cannot find a suitable testing
> platform for vim plugins. This makes me feel uncomfortable in pushing
> improvements made on my own fork of a bigger project (this may adversely 
> impact
> hundreds of users, and I think the codebase is complex enough; tests would
> force some adherence to what is already coded and improve the plugin itself).
>
> I have tried a couple of other vim plugins for testing with little/no success.
> 
Have you tried pchk?  (http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#PCHK)

The idea: create a file with a number of commands.

 * Run :PChkTry and fix your plugin until you have it working.  (your
plugin will be running in a separate vim window)
 * Run :PChkMake  -- this will, at every PChkSnapshot, take a hash of
the display of the remote vim window's contents and save it (along with
some geometry information, such as qty of windows, size of windows, etc)
 * In the future: use :PChk  -- that will compare the current plugin
performance with that of its previous performance (ie. if the hash is
the same, pretty much the display has not changed)

An excerpt from its help:

*PChkTry* *PChkMake* *PChk* *PChkStep*
Start a test by editing it, then run one of the following four commands:

:PChkTry  : try the test.  Will stop at :PChkSnapshot lines
:PChkMake  : make an Expected/tst###.out file
:PChk  : compare snapshot hashes currently obtained
with previously obtained expected test results
:PChkStep  : step through each line of a test, not just at
  :PChkSnapshots.


Test File Commands *PChkSnapshot* *PChkFeedkeys* *PChkPause*

:PChkSnapshot  : runs a hashing algorithm over the remote display.
Result is saved in/compared with Expected/tst###.out
:PChkFeedkeys ... : send keys to server.  ^X transla  
*PChkTry* *PChkMake* *PChk* *PChkStep*
Start a test by editing it, then run one of the following four commands:

:PChkTry  : try the test.  Will stop at :PChkSnapshot lines
:PChkMake  : make an Expected/tst###.out file
:PChk  : compare snapshot hashes currently obtained
with previously obtained expected test results
:PChkStep  : step through each line of a test, not just at
  :PChkSnapshots.


Test File Commands *PChkSnapshot* *PChkFeedkeys* *PChkPause*

:PChkSnapshot  : runs a hashing algorithm over the remote display.
Result is saved in/compared with Expected/tst###.out
:PChkFeedkeys ... : send keys to server.  ^X translates to control
characters (ie. ^M is a ENTER)
:PChkPause  : pause the test (uses |input()|).  One may
*  =continue
* c=check
* s=step
* t=try
:..cmd  : send cmd to server to execute..
^\s*#...  : echomsg comment in client vim (will not be sent
to server)
..cmd..  : send cmd to server to execute as a normal command
*..reply..  : netrw issues prompt; reply to it with this string
tes to control
characters (ie. ^M is a ENTER)
:PChkPause  : pause the test (uses |input()|).  One may
*  =continue
* c=check
* s=step
* t=try
:..cmd  : send cmd to server to execute..
^\s*#...  : echomsg comment in client vim (will not be sent
to server)
..cmd..  : send cmd to server to execute as a normal command
*..reply..  : netrw issues prompt; reply to it with this string


An example of a test file (for netrw):  (in a file called tst003)

# Make a file: %  (called TmpFile)
# Delete the file
:let g:netrw_pchk= 1
:cd dir001
:e .
:PChkSnapshot
%
*TmpFile
:call setline(1,"testing")
:PChkSnapshot
:w
:e .
:PChkSnapshot
:call search("TmpFile","wc")
:PChkSnapshot
D
*y
:PChkSnapshot

The :... commands are vim commands.  Without a ":" are vim normal-mode
commands/maps.

Hope that helps,
Chip Campbell

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-20 Thread Marcin Szamotulski
On 10:10 Fri 20 Oct , Luc Hermitte wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > However my concerns are broader as I'm trying to figure out ways of
> > having a
> > vim project maintained by different people but enforcing that their
> > coding
> > standards/modifications adhere to a test framework.
> 
> So, you're not looking for unit testing as there exists quite a few projects, 
> but for linters it seems like vint 
> https://github.com/Kuniwak/vint
> 
> I've even seen an external tool for github (1) that automatically tries to 
> execute the linter on code pushed -- alas I can't remember the name, or did 
> it stop supporting vim, I can't tell.
> 
> Anyway, I usually just unit-test my plugin with a mixture of my vim-UT (1) 
> and of vimrunner (3) that I've even registered in travis-ci which gives me 
> little nice badges (4).
> 
> (1) https://github.com/marketplace
> (2) https://github.com/LucHermitte/vim-UT/
> (3) https://github.com/LucHermitte/vim-UT/blob/master/doc/rspec-integration.md
> (4) https://github.com/LucHermitte/lh-vim-lib#lh-vim-lib-v400---
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Nice work, thanks for the links.

Best regards,
Marcin

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-20 Thread tyru
2017/10/20 16:29 "lith" :

> I have tried a couple of other vim plugins for testing with little/no
success.

Which one did you try? Are you looking for something like vader <
https://github.com/junegunn/vader.vim>?


Or if you want a full stack one, themis.vim is also the thing.
https://github.com/thinca/vim-themis


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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-20 Thread Luc Hermitte
Hi,

> However my concerns are broader as I'm trying to figure out ways of
> having a
> vim project maintained by different people but enforcing that their
> coding
> standards/modifications adhere to a test framework.

So, you're not looking for unit testing as there exists quite a few projects, 
but for linters it seems like vint 
https://github.com/Kuniwak/vint

I've even seen an external tool for github (1) that automatically tries to 
execute the linter on code pushed -- alas I can't remember the name, or did it 
stop supporting vim, I can't tell.

Anyway, I usually just unit-test my plugin with a mixture of my vim-UT (1) and 
of vimrunner (3) that I've even registered in travis-ci which gives me little 
nice badges (4).

(1) https://github.com/marketplace
(2) https://github.com/LucHermitte/vim-UT/
(3) https://github.com/LucHermitte/vim-UT/blob/master/doc/rspec-integration.md
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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-20 Thread lith
> I have tried a couple of other vim plugins for testing with little/no success.

Which one did you try? Are you looking for something like vader 
?

Regards

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-20 Thread Marcin Szamotulski
On 23:49 Thu 19 Oct , Felipe M. Vieira wrote:
> On Thu, October 19, 2017 at 23:36, Marcin Szamotulski wrote:
> > On 11:10 Thu 19 Oct , Felipe Vieira wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I've been trying to develop a plugin and I'm used to writing testing for 
> > > the
> > > softwares I develop. The problem is that I cannot find a suitable testing
> > > platform for vim plugins. This makes me feel uncomfortable in pushing
> > > improvements made on my own fork of a bigger project (this may adversely 
> > > impact
> > > hundreds of users, and I think the codebase is complex enough; tests would
> > > force some adherence to what is already coded and improve the plugin 
> > > itself).
> > >
> > > I have tried a couple of other vim plugins for testing with little/no 
> > > success.
> > >
> > > **What currently is the best practice for developing vim plugins?**
> > > (preferably an official vim testing platform for plugins)
> > >
> > > It is needless to say how important is to develop tests for software 
> > > (this is
> > > beyond the point here).
> > >
> > > I don't thinks this information is very relevant but:
> > >
> > > * I have some experience with vimscript
> > > * I program in python most of the time
> > > * The plugin is: https://github.com/python-mode/python-mode (my own fork:
> > >   https://github.com/fmv1992/python-mode)
> > > * I am willing to learn whatever it takes to be able to develop testing 
> > > for my
> > >   plugin (as long as it is something 'official/stable')
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Felipe.
> >
> > Hi Felipe,
> >
> > I've been missing a testing suite for vim too.  One possible solution is
> > to use the same technique that vim is using itself to test the code.
> > There are now bunch of assert functions (:h assert_equal(), etc.).
> >
> > Another thing that would be awesome is to have a PureScript backend
> > for VimL and develop vim plugins in a strongly typed language.  That would
> > rule out a lot of bugs.  There is Python backend for Purescript which
> > one could use to write plugins that are using vim python interface.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Marcin
> 
> Marcin,
> 
> thanks for the tips.
> 
> I was aware of the 'assert_' family. They are useful if someone is checking
> function correctness and the like.
> 
> However my concerns are broader as I'm trying to figure out ways of having a
> vim project maintained by different people but enforcing that their coding
> standards/modifications adhere to a test framework.
> 
> As such I was thinking of ways of vim syntax checking (if proposed git/github
> modifications were syntactically correct) and their results as well (for
> instance having a vim command issued like 'PythonEnfoceCodingStandard' and be
> sure that a test buffer changed).
> 
> And to be 100% honest I don't know exactly what I want. That's why I do know
> that there is a gap/need to contribute to vim in this point but I don't think 
> I
> have enough practice with coding to tackle this issue myself.
> 
> I'll let everyone know if I stumble upon something useful. Meanwhile lets hope
> others contribute to this post.
> 
> Best,

For testing syntax one could use `synstack()` and `synIDaddr()` to test
if the file has the right syntax groups.

Best regards,
Marcin

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-19 Thread Felipe M. Vieira
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On Thu, October 19, 2017 at 23:36, Marcin Szamotulski wrote:
> On 11:10 Thu 19 Oct , Felipe Vieira wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've been trying to develop a plugin and I'm used to writing testing for the
> > softwares I develop. The problem is that I cannot find a suitable testing
> > platform for vim plugins. This makes me feel uncomfortable in pushing
> > improvements made on my own fork of a bigger project (this may adversely 
> > impact
> > hundreds of users, and I think the codebase is complex enough; tests would
> > force some adherence to what is already coded and improve the plugin 
> > itself).
> >
> > I have tried a couple of other vim plugins for testing with little/no 
> > success.
> >
> > **What currently is the best practice for developing vim plugins?**
> > (preferably an official vim testing platform for plugins)
> >
> > It is needless to say how important is to develop tests for software (this 
> > is
> > beyond the point here).
> >
> > I don't thinks this information is very relevant but:
> >
> > * I have some experience with vimscript
> > * I program in python most of the time
> > * The plugin is: https://github.com/python-mode/python-mode (my own fork:
> >   https://github.com/fmv1992/python-mode)
> > * I am willing to learn whatever it takes to be able to develop testing for 
> > my
> >   plugin (as long as it is something 'official/stable')
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Felipe.
>
> Hi Felipe,
>
> I've been missing a testing suite for vim too.  One possible solution is
> to use the same technique that vim is using itself to test the code.
> There are now bunch of assert functions (:h assert_equal(), etc.).
>
> Another thing that would be awesome is to have a PureScript backend
> for VimL and develop vim plugins in a strongly typed language.  That would
> rule out a lot of bugs.  There is Python backend for Purescript which
> one could use to write plugins that are using vim python interface.
>
> Cheers,
> Marcin

Marcin,

thanks for the tips.

I was aware of the 'assert_' family. They are useful if someone is checking
function correctness and the like.

However my concerns are broader as I'm trying to figure out ways of having a
vim project maintained by different people but enforcing that their coding
standards/modifications adhere to a test framework.

As such I was thinking of ways of vim syntax checking (if proposed git/github
modifications were syntactically correct) and their results as well (for
instance having a vim command issued like 'PythonEnfoceCodingStandard' and be
sure that a test buffer changed).

And to be 100% honest I don't know exactly what I want. That's why I do know
that there is a gap/need to contribute to vim in this point but I don't think I
have enough practice with coding to tackle this issue myself.

I'll let everyone know if I stumble upon something useful. Meanwhile lets hope
others contribute to this post.

Best,

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Re: Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-19 Thread Marcin Szamotulski
On 11:10 Thu 19 Oct , Felipe Vieira wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I've been trying to develop a plugin and I'm used to writing testing for the
> softwares I develop. The problem is that I cannot find a suitable testing
> platform for vim plugins. This makes me feel uncomfortable in pushing
> improvements made on my own fork of a bigger project (this may adversely 
> impact
> hundreds of users, and I think the codebase is complex enough; tests would
> force some adherence to what is already coded and improve the plugin itself).
> 
> I have tried a couple of other vim plugins for testing with little/no success.
> 
> **What currently is the best practice for developing vim plugins?**
> (preferably an official vim testing platform for plugins)
> 
> It is needless to say how important is to develop tests for software (this is
> beyond the point here).
> 
> I don't thinks this information is very relevant but:
> 
> * I have some experience with vimscript
> * I program in python most of the time
> * The plugin is: https://github.com/python-mode/python-mode (my own fork:
>   https://github.com/fmv1992/python-mode)
> * I am willing to learn whatever it takes to be able to develop testing for my
>   plugin (as long as it is something 'official/stable')
> 
> Best,
> 
> Felipe.

Hi Felipe,

I've been missing a testing suite for vim too.  One possible solution is
to use the same technique that vim is using itself to test the code.
There are now bunch of assert functions (:h assert_equal(), etc.).

Another thing that would be awesome is to have a PureScript backend
for VimL and develop vim plugins in a strongly typed language.  That would
rule out a lot of bugs.  There is Python backend for Purescript which
one could use to write plugins that are using vim python interface.

Cheers,
Marcin

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Advice needed: best practices for vim plugin testing

2017-10-19 Thread Felipe Vieira
Hi everyone,

I've been trying to develop a plugin and I'm used to writing testing for the
softwares I develop. The problem is that I cannot find a suitable testing
platform for vim plugins. This makes me feel uncomfortable in pushing
improvements made on my own fork of a bigger project (this may adversely impact
hundreds of users, and I think the codebase is complex enough; tests would
force some adherence to what is already coded and improve the plugin itself).

I have tried a couple of other vim plugins for testing with little/no success.

**What currently is the best practice for developing vim plugins?**
(preferably an official vim testing platform for plugins)

It is needless to say how important is to develop tests for software (this is
beyond the point here).

I don't thinks this information is very relevant but:

* I have some experience with vimscript
* I program in python most of the time
* The plugin is: https://github.com/python-mode/python-mode (my own fork:
  https://github.com/fmv1992/python-mode)
* I am willing to learn whatever it takes to be able to develop testing for my
  plugin (as long as it is something 'official/stable')

Best,

Felipe.

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