Performa 250
Hi all, I'm new to this group and decided to join because my folks have just informed me that they have found an old Performa 250 in our house in Malaysia and they want me to bring it back to the UK with me when I head over in December for a holiday. I'm planning on keeping it but wanted to ask you guys a couple of things: 1. Is there anything interesting I could put it to use for as a computer these days? 2. My mum wants to know how much roughly collectors pay for one of these? (I am not gonna let her sell it off but she will want an answer so any rough estimates would be grand) Thanks everyone! Arivind Abraham --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Performa 250/software/links
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_performa/stats/mac_performa_250.html This still is a nice machine for writing (although the screen is too small), and for a few games. To find out what exists, I recommend the macintoshgarden.org. There's any kind of app and system components for free (discontinued software). Any system before 8 can be loaded from the official Apple site for free as well, btw. And for furthermore questions, join the retromaccast.ning.com ! Lars from Germany > >Hi all, > >I'm new to this group and decided to join because my folks have just >informed me that they have found an old Performa 250 in our house in >Malaysia and they want me to bring it back to the UK with me when I >head over in December for a holiday. > >I'm planning on keeping it but wanted to ask you guys a couple of >things: > >1. Is there anything interesting I could put it to use for as a >computer these days? > >2. My mum wants to know how much roughly collectors pay for one of >these? (I am not gonna let her sell it off but she will want an answer >so any rough estimates would be grand) > >Thanks everyone! > >Arivind Abraham > >> --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 400k and 800k disks
CORRECTION On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Abel Ortiz Monasterio wrote: > I read on this forum a few months ago that if you put tape over > the hole on the center of the disk it will ^^^ Let's try 'The corner' of the disk. 'The Center' will mess things up royally. Chuck D. > read as an 800k of curse the tape can fall off over item so it is > only a short term solution. > > some SE's will say super drive (those are 1.44MB) but the others > are 800 > > Hope this helps > > Abel > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:25 PM, d.colvin d.colvin > wrote: > > I'm going to look at an SE that I was thinking about buying. I > don't have any 800k or 400k disks. How can I check the floppy > drive to see if it works? Of course, > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 400k and 800k disks
I knew that taping "the center" was a mis-understanding. You are right, a faulty drive shouldn't stop me from buying it. Thanks! On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Charles Davis wrote: > > CORRECTION > > On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Abel Ortiz Monasterio wrote: > > > I read on this forum a few months ago that if you put tape over > > the hole on the center of the disk it will > > ^^^ > Let's try 'The corner' of the disk. 'The Center' will mess things up > royally. > > Chuck D. > > > read as an 800k of curse the tape can fall off over item so it is > > only a short term solution. > > > > some SE's will say super drive (those are 1.44MB) but the others > > are 800 > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Abel > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:25 PM, d.colvin d.colvin > > wrote: > > > > I'm going to look at an SE that I was thinking about buying. I > > don't have any 800k or 400k disks. How can I check the floppy > > drive to see if it works? Of course, > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need boot disk for a compact mac.
where are you located? --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Eric wrote: > From: Eric > Subject: Need boot disk for a compact mac. > To: "Vintage Macs" > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 11:38 PM > > I need a boot disk for a original compact mac. I'm pretty > sure that it > got the 512k RAM upgrade. Also if you have any assorted > software it > would be nice if you could include that too. > Email me at edasmal...@gmail.com > if you can help > Thanks! > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Strange hard drive behavior
Hi there, after having formatted my Seagate ST51080N 1 GB I wanted to create partitions on it. I started Lilo to do this. After a rebott there were no volumes. So I opened Lilo again but now it just says "OSErr = 5 Bad SCSI Command: phase error." Neither Lilo nor Apple's SD HD Setup want's to do anything. Both the termination and the connection are ok. Is the disk "dead"? -- Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Freezing Macintosh SE
Hi there, I was able to format and mount an SCSI HD (meanwhile it died - look the other thread) and I even installed System D-7.5.5. The problem is, that sometimes the mac "freezes". It's difficult to describe, but sometimes it just freezes and I can't do anything, sometimes a "bomb" appears with errors like "a system error occured" with some cryptic numbers but the buttons have no text and sometimes just a white flashing rectange appears with neither buttons nor text on it. RIGHT NOW: I pressed the "power on" key on the keyboard and the message "Sorry, a system error occured. adress error". Is it possible, that these errors are caused by either the RAM upgrade I performed or the "hot" hard drive? I know that the hard drive gets quite hot. Before I was upgrading the RAM everything was well... I hope someone's able to help me. -- Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Freezing Macintosh SE
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:38:02 -0700 (PDT), Alex wrote: > quite hot. Before I was upgrading the RAM everything was well... I think that you've just said what the problem is: the RAM. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Portable Problems
Thanks to everyone who responded to this. :) Regards Susan On 30 Aug 2009, at 02:04, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Susan Platter wrote: > >> From: Susan Platter >> Subject: Re: Mac Portable Problems >> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com >> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:19 PM >> >> What setting do you use to stop the hot dry cycle from >> going through? >> Regards > > Depends on the dishwasher. Search The Fine Internet for a manual for > yours. You want whatever cycle does NOT use the heating element in > the bottom of the tub. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Freezing Macintosh SE
- Original Message > From: Alex > Is it possible, that these errors are caused by either the RAM upgrade > I performed or the "hot" hard drive? I know that the hard drive gets > quite hot. Before I was upgrading the RAM everything was well... RAM is the prime suspect. Go back to the old RAM and see if that fixes the problem. The HDD could also be the problem but I would check the RAM first --glen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Portable Problems
Energy saver mode or turning off Heat Dry. I used two drops of Dawn dishwashing soap (no detergents) and ran it through one cycle and let air dry for two days. worked finetemporary fix. I've replaced caps on three boards thus far, with good results. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Susan Platter wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who responded to this. :) > Regards > Susan > > On 30 Aug 2009, at 02:04, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Susan Platter wrote: > > > >> From: Susan Platter > >> Subject: Re: Mac Portable Problems > >> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:19 PM > >> > >> What setting do you use to stop the hot dry cycle from > >> going through? > >> Regards > > > > Depends on the dishwasher. Search The Fine Internet for a manual for > > yours. You want whatever cycle does NOT use the heating element in > > the bottom of the tub. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Freezing Macintosh SE
> RAM is the prime suspect. Go back to the old RAM and see if that > fixes the problem. I went back to the old RAM and everything is well now but I am a bit sad now, because the system is English. I wanted the computer for my little brother and it would be very nice to have the system in German (System 6 - System 7 is too fat now). > The HDD could also be the problem but I would check the RAM first -- > glen I have ordered an aditional cooler to fix that problem, if there is one. -- Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Freezing Macintosh SE
glen wrote: > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Alex > >> Is it possible, that these errors are caused by either the RAM upgrade >> I performed or the "hot" hard drive? I know that the hard drive gets >> quite hot. Before I was upgrading the RAM everything was well... > > > RAM is the prime suspect. Go back to the old RAM and see if that fixes the > problem. > > The HDD could also be the problem but I would check the RAM first --glen Also, try removing and re-installing the memory, re-arranging it if possible. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Freezing Macintosh SE
I looked a bit closer at the RAM SIMMs. The "original ones" have the suffix -10. My "added ones" have the suffix -70. Am I right, that the original ones are 110 ns and my new ones 70 ns? > I think that you've just said what the problem is: the RAM. I do think so, too. :-D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Portable Problems
Thanks! Any advice on capacitor replacement? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---