Re: 128k M0001P error with sad face

[Hardware Mack]

yes ALL bad.. especially the apple logo'd ones... You get it working
by changing one or 2... then 2 months one more,  then 6 months 1 or 2
more.  etc. The 128k and some Apple IIc 's with that apple logo
suffer.

changing all 16 chips is a big nasty job... but i am really good at it
and complete it with repeatable success.  Its the best way to go, get
it done and your good.

Charles

PS: Techknight from 68kmla suggested the ram might have been rushed to
production, and contamination might of been the issue.  Problems with
the ram have been quite an issue.


On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Dylan McDermond  wrote:
>
>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Britt Dodd  wrote:
>>
>> I think something in the error code (last set of numbers maybe) indicate 
>> *which* bank is bad. I'd say it would be highly unlikely all of them would 
>> be bad.
>
> In my experience, when one goes bad, the rest will follow soon if not 
> immediately. The best course of action is to replace them all when you have 
> it apart.
>
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Re: 128k M0001P error with sad face

[Wesley Furr]

Gotcha...that makes sense now.  I'm sure it is a pain if they aren't
socketed!

Wesley


On Mon, February 1, 2016 3:57 pm, Hardware Mack wrote:
> yes ALL bad.. especially the apple logo'd ones... You get it working by
> changing one or 2... then 2 months one more,  then 6 months 1 or 2 more.
> etc. The 128k and some Apple IIc 's with that apple logo suffer.
>
> changing all 16 chips is a big nasty job... but i am really good at it and
> complete it with repeatable success.  Its the best way to go, get it done
> and your good.
>
> Charles
>
>
> PS: Techknight from 68kmla suggested the ram might have been rushed to
> production, and contamination might of been the issue.  Problems with the
> ram have been quite an issue.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Dylan McDermond 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Britt Dodd 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I think something in the error code (last set of numbers maybe)
>>> indicate *which* bank is bad. I'd say it would be highly unlikely all
>>> of them would be bad.
>>
>> In my experience, when one goes bad, the rest will follow soon if not
>> immediately. The best course of action is to replace them all when you
>> have it apart.
>>
>> - Dylan
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Re: 128k M0001P error with sad face

[Wesley Furr]

*All* bad?  That seems unlikely...unless there is something I don't know
about early Mac's that can cause failure of all of them?  I've heard talk
in PC circles about piggybacking a good chip on top of them temporarily in
order to find the bad chip...would something like that work to narrow it
down?

Wesley


On Mon, February 1, 2016 10:26 am, Charles wrote:
> the ram is bad… all of the 16 ram chips need to be replaced.  i do
> offer this service. Charles
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> On Jan 31, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Barry Richardson 
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>> Tested my 128K Mac recently (bought it in 1984) and got the "bong" but
>> sad face with the numbers 048360. Spent hours trying to interpret with
>> no luck. I've removed the HD (disk ejector was sluggish) which turned a
>> little when I inserted the system disk nut now does not. Also
>> resoldered the yolk - analogue board connections. If I can't fix the
>> error, can I use bits from a 1MB or classic Mac (which I have, neither
>> works properly). Be really grateful for help.
>> brlund...@gmail.com (Melbourne Australia)
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Re: 128k M0001P error with sad face

[Britt Dodd]

I think something in the error code (last set of numbers maybe) indicate
*which* bank is bad. I'd say it would be highly unlikely all of them would
be bad.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:34 PM Wesley Furr  wrote:

> *All* bad?  That seems unlikely...unless there is something I don't know
> about early Mac's that can cause failure of all of them?  I've heard talk
> in PC circles about piggybacking a good chip on top of them temporarily in
> order to find the bad chip...would something like that work to narrow it
> down?
>
> Wesley
>
>
> On Mon, February 1, 2016 10:26 am, Charles wrote:
> > the ram is bad… all of the 16 ram chips need to be replaced.  i do
> > offer this service. Charles
> > MacCaps.com
> >
> >
> > On Jan 31, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Barry Richardson 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Tested my 128K Mac recently (bought it in 1984) and got the "bong" but
> >> sad face with the numbers 048360. Spent hours trying to interpret with
> >> no luck. I've removed the HD (disk ejector was sluggish) which turned a
> >> little when I inserted the system disk nut now does not. Also
> >> resoldered the yolk - analogue board connections. If I can't fix the
> >> error, can I use bits from a 1MB or classic Mac (which I have, neither
> >> works properly). Be really grateful for help.
> >> brlund...@gmail.com (Melbourne Australia)
> >>
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Re: 128k M0001P error with sad face

[Dylan McDermond]

> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Britt Dodd  wrote:
> 
> I think something in the error code (last set of numbers maybe) indicate 
> *which* bank is bad. I'd say it would be highly unlikely all of them would be 
> bad.

In my experience, when one goes bad, the rest will follow soon if not 
immediately. The best course of action is to replace them all when you have it 
apart.

- Dylan

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Re: 128k M0001P error with sad face

[Charles]

the ram is bad… all of the 16 ram chips need to be replaced.  i do offer this 
service.
Charles
MacCaps.com

On Jan 31, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Barry Richardson  wrote:

> Tested my 128K Mac recently (bought it in 1984) and got the "bong" but sad 
> face with the numbers 048360. Spent hours trying to interpret with no luck. 
> I've removed the HD (disk ejector was sluggish) which turned a little when I 
> inserted the system disk nut now does not. Also resoldered the yolk - 
> analogue board connections.
> If I can't fix the error, can I use bits from a 1MB or classic Mac (which I 
> have, neither works properly).
> Be really grateful for help.
> brlund...@gmail.com (Melbourne Australia)
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Re: 128k M0001P error with sad face

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I have an original 128K Mac that I bought back in 1984 and have tried to sell 
from time to time since I have long stopped using it. It boots up and the 
screen is fine. It was updated to a 512 "Fat Mac" shortly after I bought it. I 
have all original manuals, carrying bag, working image writer. $1,500 FIRM. 
Buyer pays shipping. I'll even throw in the very first MacWorld issue!
Regards,Mikesouthwoodmike at yahoo dot com
 

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the ram is bad… all of the 16 ram chips need to be replaced.  i do offer this 
service.CharlesMacCaps.com
On Jan 31, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Barry Richardson  wrote:

Tested my 128K Mac recently (bought it in 1984) and got the "bong" but sad face 
with the numbers 048360. Spent hours trying to interpret with no luck. I've 
removed the HD (disk ejector was sluggish) which turned a little when I 
inserted the system disk nut now does not. Also resoldered the yolk - analogue 
board connections.
If I can't fix the error, can I use bits from a 1MB or classic Mac (which I 
have, neither works properly).
Be really grateful for help.
brlund...@gmail.com (Melbourne Australia)

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