Re: TONS of old apple hardware and software

[Louis Ciotti]

Was not trying to be mean or anything, probably came off wrong.  If you
want to generate real interest you have to give people some idea of what
you have, most times for old computers I don't know I want it until I
actually see it, so a post like I have a huge amount of stuff with not even
a small list of the "major" items just leaves me with well what does he
have that I might want?

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:26 PM,  wrote:

> As a newbie to this group, I certainly did not mean to cause confusion,
> Louis. I guess I was actually wondering if some one or some business bought
> bulk collections where it could all just be loaded up and taken away. But
> that's probably not realistic. However, I was PLEASANTLY surprised to see
> so much INDIVIDUAL interest there is in some of the older stuff.
>
> A list is certainly a reasonable request. Frankly, I don't even know what
> all I have. But again, I just wasn't expecting this conversation to go in
> that direction.
>
> I do have a lot going on in my life at the moment, including some
> unplanned, high priority issues in my personal life and my family. So while
> this forum has given me incentive to come up with some type of list, I
> provided that information hoping folks will understand my "list" will not
> be available immediately.
>
> THANKS to all who have sent me notes. I'm honestly not in position to
> offer any immediate sales or whatever. And I have no clue what any shipping
> costs are. But I do appreciate your comments and your interest.
>
> Please allow me some time and I will follow though. Hopefully I can help
> someone!
>
> Thanks again!
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Re: WTB: CD-Rom drive and bezel for centris 660av

[Louis Ciotti]

AS others have stated the 660av would have a caddy drive.  Any yes I am
looking for the internal drive and front faceplate.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:24 PM, NODEraser <nodera...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you looking for an internal drive and the faceplate that goes with
> it? You won't need a caddy for those, they're the tray-loading sort
> like most of them; I think the only drives that used caddies were
> external. Regardless, I'm pretty sure I've got it all, just have to do
> some searching through boxes in the basement.
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Louis Ciotti <lciot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No I am still looking
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, NODEraser <nodera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Louis Ciotti <lciot...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Looking to add a cd-rom drive to my centris 660AV.  I will need a
> >> > working
> >> > drive, a caddy or two and the front bezel to make it look nice.
> >> >
> >> > Reply off list with cost plus shipping to zip code 13424.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Have you found one yet? Pretty sure I have everything you need, but
> >> will have to do some digging through boxes.
> >>
> >>
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Re: WTB: CD-Rom drive and bezel for centris 660av

[Louis Ciotti]

No I am still looking

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, NODEraser <nodera...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Louis Ciotti <lciot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looking to add a cd-rom drive to my centris 660AV.  I will need a working
> > drive, a caddy or two and the front bezel to make it look nice.
> >
> > Reply off list with cost plus shipping to zip code 13424.
> >
>
> Have you found one yet? Pretty sure I have everything you need, but
> will have to do some digging through boxes.
>
>
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WTB: CD-Rom drive and bezel for centris 660av

[Louis Ciotti]

Looking to add a cd-rom drive to my centris 660AV.  I will need a working 
drive, a caddy or two and the front bezel to make it look nice.

Reply off list with cost plus shipping to zip code 13424.

Thanks!

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Re: Phone Net Questions

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Thanks for the information.  Sounds like I am thinking correctly.  

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Phone Net Questions

[Louis Ciotti]

So my house phone wiring all goes to one location in the basement, nothing 
is daisy chained.  I have not actually counted the number of pairs, but I 
believe they used CAT 5 so it has 4 pairs.  Looking at the phone-net 
instructions, it looks like I only need one pair. Is this correct?  If that 
is the case what I want to do is use the house wires to network my old 
SE/30 in one room to my Centris in another room.  I know that is what 
phone-net was make for, I just want to verify that I understand the 
wiring.  It looks like I would build what is called a passive star if I 
were to add more nodes to this.  What are the limits on a passive star?

Thanks in advance.  I never dealt with apple talk/phone net before, so I am 
probably over thinking this!

Lou

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Re: Palm Desktop on Centris w/System 7.6.1

[Louis Ciotti]

Thanks!

I have the cable and everything, just need software to actually sync it 
with.


From searching It looks like I need version 1.0 of the software.  I 
found an archive of it on an FTP server out in Greece, but it has a 
password... The same place had the 2.0 software, and that looks like PPC 
only as again the Palm Desktop is greyed out.  It also has some old 
manuals, even one for the MacPac 2.0 which from the text, it looks like 
"Now Synchronize" is another software package that will work.


Thanks Again!

Robert Hesson wrote:
I recall being able to use it on my quadra 650... I have the disk here 
somewhere. I'll look for it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2016, at 3:23 AM, 'Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs 
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That version only supports PPC Macintosh. Palm was very quick to drop 
68K support. Some searching found that only the earliest Palm Desktop 
versions were for 68K, but I was unable to find any of them. 
Macintosh Garden doesn't have it, nor does Macintosh Repository.


You might get it to work with Claris Organizer, which 3Com bought way 
back when and made over into the original Palm Desktop.
Here's a contact manager that supports Palm 
http://brewstersoftware.com/features.htm


A few things here ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/mac/mirrors/info-mac/pilot/ 
You'll also need a serial cradle for the Centris or a serial to 
Infrared adapter for synching. IIRC the Visor supports both serial 
and USB, unlike earlier models from Palm that use a USB to serial 
adapter in their USB cradles and cables.




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*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 7:10 PM
*Subject:* Palm Desktop on Centris w/System 7.6.1

Hello all,

I am attempting to get my old Handspring Visor connected to My
Centris 660av.  I am running 7.6.1, and when I attempt to install
the Palm software, the palm desktop is greyed out.  From the
manual, It should work with OS 7.5.3 or greater.  Any thoughts?

I am able to install it on my G4 running OS9 from the same media.

Thanks!

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Palm Desktop on Centris w/System 7.6.1

[Louis Ciotti]

Hello all,

I am attempting to get my old Handspring Visor connected to My Centris 
660av.  I am running 7.6.1, and when I attempt to install the Palm 
software, the palm desktop is greyed out.  From the manual, It should work 
with OS 7.5.3 or greater.  Any thoughts?  

I am able to install it on my G4 running OS9 from the same media.

Thanks!

Lou

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Re: Microcontroller programming

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I have been playing with some PICs as of late and thought it would be cool to 
do it in either my OS 7 centris or my G4 OS 9 machine.  I have a pic start plus 
programmer (uses a com port) as well as the newer pick it 2 & 3 and and icd2 
but the newer ones use USB.

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Re: Microcontroller programming

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Do you recall the tools you used?

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Microcontroller programming

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So this is a general old school macintosh question.  Did anyone actually 
use a macintosh to program and develop circuits that involved 
microcontrollers (like microchip pics, or 8051s, etc.)

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Re: Mac Classic boot problem

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Grabbing and twisting just seem like the pad will get ripped off,
especially on a board that is slightly damaged from a leaky cap.

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Wesley Furr  wrote:

> Sounds good to me...but of course you're working from my play book.  :-)
> Removing the caps like that makes me nervous, but I've not yet had a
> problem...and it's so much easier and faster.  Make sure you keep twisting
> and not pulling up after it starts coming loose...if a leg is hanging on,
> that could more easily cause damage to the pad than the sideways
> twisting...or so it seems to me anyway.
>
> Wesley
>
>
> On Fri, March 4, 2016 12:10 pm, Stephen Collins wrote:
> > I have inspected around the caps, and see no evidence of leakage.
> > Regardless I think they are weak, and it's probably a matter of time.
> > Here's the procedure I'm going with (via Wesley above).
> >
> >
> > Capacitor replacement:
> > - Grab cap with pliers, push down & twist
> > - Clean area with isopropyl and q-tips
> > - Add flux, remove legs with soldering iron
> > - Clean again
> > - Use braid to wick remaining solder on pad
> > - Clean again
> > - Flow solder onto 1st pad
> > - Hold component in position and heat pad
> > - Solder in the other side
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 10:57:24 AM UTC-6, Dylan McDermond wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Stephen Collins  >>>
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Ok will do. Not as nervous about the surface mount repair since I
> >>> looked
> >> at Dave Jones' EEVlog video on the topic. Thanks for the help everyone.
> >>  Fingers crossed!
> >>
> >>
> >> Just be sure to CLEAN ti well. Not only the general surface but clean
> >> as much crust from the pads as possible. Use a high percentage isopropyl
> >> or an acetone/IPA mix. I like to tin the pads, place the cap on top,
> >> then heat each lead until it sucks down to the pad.
> >>
> >> Here is a good picture of a leaked cap (C8) on an SE/30:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.applefool.com/applefool/Macintosh_SE_30_%28Soldered%29_files
> >> /Media/DSC06831/DSC06831.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is a good picture of a replacement cap (C69) on an Quadra 840AV
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.applefool.com/applefool/Quadra_840av_files/Media/DSC07047/DS
> >> C07047.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> - Dylan
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Re: Lc 475 and over monitor

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Can you he no descriptive than this?   Which adapters did you buy,  what
monitor are you hooking it up to? Can you hear the startup tone?   Hard to
diagnose via email what all we have it it doesn't work.

Sent from my Galaxy S6.
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> I've bought 2-3 of them, but can't get it to work.
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Re: SCSI Hard Drives

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I did  not even know there was a SCSI to SD card adapter.  I ordered one 
to test it out.  And thanks for the networking link.



Dylan McDermond <mailto:dy...@mcdermond.net>
February 6, 2016 at 9:34 PM

On Feb 6, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Louis Ciotti<lciot...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am looking for 2 SCSI hard drives.  One for my SE/30 where the drive


Honestly, I would suggest one of Mike McMaster's SCSI2SD. With the price and 
frailty of SCSI drives these days, it's a solid choice.


Also is there a way to get the Centris on a "modern" network, it will make 
transferring files easier.


More than everything you ever wanted to know about connecting old macs can be 
found at http://www.applefool.com/se30

- Dylan

Louis Ciotti <mailto:lciot...@gmail.com>
February 6, 2016 at 9:03 PM
I am looking for 2 SCSI hard drives.  One for my SE/30 where the drive 
died due to stiction (sp?), and another for my Centris 660AV.  Without 
out cracking the cases open what am I looking for when I am shopping 
around for these.  The Centris works, but it is just loud, and I would 
prefer a quieter drive if possible.


Also is there a way to get the Centris on a "modern" network, it will 
make transferring files easier.  Now I use a Mac Mini with a external 
USB drive as the middle man.

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SCSI Hard Drives

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I am looking for 2 SCSI hard drives.  One for my SE/30 where the drive died 
due to stiction (sp?), and another for my Centris 660AV.  Without out 
cracking the cases open what am I looking for when I am shopping around for 
these.  The Centris works, but it is just loud, and I would prefer a 
quieter drive if possible.

Also is there a way to get the Centris on a "modern" network, it will make 
transferring files easier.  Now I use a Mac Mini with a external USB drive 
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Re: What do you use your vintage mac for

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Very cool.  I have wondered if anyone used an old mac for schematics, I am
a an electronics geek, and I have wanted to atleast make on schematic and
PCB layout using vintage mac hardware.

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> What don't I use them for... That list is smaller
>
> My Quadra 650 is my page layout machine - complete with 17" multiple scan
> display. Has 136mb ram and a 10gb disk. Runs PageMaker and a ton of other
> titles. This machine is going to need caps soon I suspect because it
> occasionally has "senior moments."
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> My quadra 800 is my graphics machine complete with a quad doubler, 80gb
> disk and a 20" multiple scan display. Runs photoshop, illustrator, mini cad
> and others and sits right next to my 650. This machine also has a canon FS
> 7210 film scanner and an apple ColorOnescanner attached.
>
> We have a performa 631 with a 15" multiple scan display and a centris 610
> with the Macintosh Color Display (my first Mac!) for the kids and they have
> a ton of games. Both have been maxed on ram but I hear the performa can
> take more than Apple listed. That machine also has a 30gb disk and the
> centris has its original 230mb drive (with an external 9.1 gb drive)
>
> Those machines print to a LaserWriter Pro 630, StyleWriter 6500 and a HP
> Designjet 600 for schematics, wiring diagrams etc.
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> I also have a 13" macbookpro that I adore and i have USB scanners and all
> modern software- I use it with my digital SLR and others. It's a great
> machine but the others are not broken and still do their tasks flawlessly.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> actually using their vintage macs for.  What software do you still find
> useful? Have you done anything to make it more useful?  My biggest thing is
> being able to print, which I have had some success by using a mac mini, but
> that requires a mac with an Ethernet connection.
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> I was using my G4 mac running OS9 for quicken, but recently stopped.
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What do you use your vintage mac for

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This is just a random question, but I am wondering what people are actually
using their vintage macs for.  What software do you still find useful? Have
you done anything to make it more useful?  My biggest thing is being able
to print, which I have had some success by using a mac mini, but that
requires a mac with an Ethernet connection.

I was using my G4 mac running OS9 for quicken, but recently stopped.

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Re: Copying OS 8 from CD to floppies

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Lee Kolb  wrote:

> First, let me emphasize that I am not a hobbyist. I use my Macs for record
> keeping, tax preparation, etc. So I am not looking to add any gadgets that
> I don't really need.
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Out of curiosity, what actual software are you using.   I am always
interested in knowing what people who use these older machine are actually
still running for software

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Re: ANOTHER: Question about Macs? // AOL shuts down AOL 4.0 and 5.0 (drat!)

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There are USB floppy drives available at reasonable cost, I have not use
them to transfer between a Mac and PC.  I have used with success an older
MAC mini as a bridge between my modern computers (mac and PC) and my older
power macs with Ethernet connections.

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> From Michael Smith, Palm Desert, CA - getting files from Mac [running
> system 7 & 8]  to PC when AOL 4.0/5.0 has been cancelled:
>
> Gee all the readers here have provided GREAT responses addressing AOL's
> cancellation of AOL 4.0 and AOL 5.0 which still works great on old System 7
> and System 8 Macs.
>
> I still need to get files FROM the PC (running VISTA) to the
> PowerMac7300/200 (which BTW is STILL a very useful machine - I used dozens
> of useful productivity programs on it including EXCEL, Word, "CAT" and more
> such as More "Outliner" that I use for scheduling and no program has yet
> been made that works as well as "MORE" ).  The POwerMac has a floppy drive,
> the Vista PC does not.  The PC has a CD drive and the POwerMac has a CD
> Drive.  What would be convenient is if the Vista PC had a floppy drive. (My
> older Dell running "XP" has a floppy but it is broken).  Since I need to
> transfer reasonably small files from the VISTA PC to the POwerMac (and used
> AOL previously to do that), I wish the PC had a floppy drive (this PC).  Is
> there a way to buy an external PC drive that could be added to the Vista
> PC?  That would solve my problem.  Anyone know?  I am going to look on
> Google as well.
>
> Have a good day.   M. Smith
>
> In a message dated 10/22/2015 12:03:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> oltma...@gmail.com writes:
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> That's probably what I was thinking of... I mean Mozilla/Thunderbird was
> basically Communicator at the beginning... ;) I remember a friend using
> Netscape Communicator for mail on a Quadra 950 back in the day.
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Doug Kiekow  wrote:
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>> Well I fired up a Quadra 800 because my memory failed on what I was using
>> for email back then, Turned out it was Netscape Communicator, and it
>> appears it did POP.
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 13·12 , Geoffrey Oltmans  wrote:
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Re: Electrical schematic software

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I looked around the website a bit more, and it appears that the page I sent
was for upgrades to licensed copies, I wonder if you can still purchase the
software and how much it is.  I would be nice to get the schematic capture
and PCB layout software.  I would live to be able to do this on my OS9
computers.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Robert Hesson rhesso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those are some great options. I am going to check them all out tomorrow.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Louis Ciotti lciot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Specifically:

 http://www.mccad.com/UpdtMenuPage.html



 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Louis Ciotti lciot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you seen this:

 http://www.mccad.com/FREEMACSTUFF.html



 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Jeff Walther t...@prismnet.com wrote:

 Forgot to mention...

 If you succeed please report back.  I have no immediate need for this,
 but it is something I would like to have.

 Jeff Walther

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Re: Electrical schematic software

[Louis Ciotti]

Have you seen this:

http://www.mccad.com/FREEMACSTUFF.html



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 Forgot to mention...

 If you succeed please report back.  I have no immediate need for this, but
 it is something I would like to have.

 Jeff Walther

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Re: Floppy Drive Issues with Old Disks

[Louis Ciotti]

Have you looked at the disks that made the noise?

I bed the material on the surface of the floppy came off and is now on the 
drive head.   

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:20 PM, TT tam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hmm, I had a known good disk, then tried the old disks that gave out high 
 pitched squeals, and then tried the known good disk, and now it won't read 
 it.  I have an Imation SuperDrive and made a couple more disks with some 
 drivers, and now those aren't working either.  I feel like something happened 
 to the disk drive, but don't know for certain.
 
 -tt
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:24 PM, J.S. Garrison garriso...@yahoo.com wrote:
 No. In rare cases the drives scar the disks.You can see the grooves in the 
 magnetic media. Usually, the disks are made in other drives and the head 
 alignment is different between drives. Often, the drive heads need 
 demagnetizing. I  owned dozens of Old Macs and would cycle through them all 
 until I found one with a drive good enough to read the disks. I then copied 
 the disk's contents to the machine with the good drive and made several 
 copies.
 
 
 Jeff
 
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 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:42 AM
 Subject: Floppy Drive Issues with Old Disks
 
 I have some old floppies that I find and they are not in the best shape.  I 
 have had this happen at least twice, so I am writing here to get some advice.
 
 When I try to test out these floppies, sometimes I put one in my IIci that 
 starts making a high pitched squealing noise as it spins the disk and the 
 Finder indicates some kind of error.  I tried a few days later a disk I know 
 is good, that I used a week ago and now the floppy drive cannot read it.  
 Are my old floppies somehow damaging my floppy drives?  What can I do to try 
 to repair them? 
 
 I kind of despise floppies as it is, but it is nice to have a working drive 
 in case I need to install some drivers.  Another floppy drive that I had a 
 similar experience with in my SE/30.  I tried fixing by cleaning and 
 lubricating the inject mechanism and cleaning the heads, but it didn't seem 
 to help very much.
 
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Re: Printing from a classic mac

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Not looking to actually connect a printer to the classic macs, rather connect 
via AppleTalk over Ethernet.   I figured it would be simple with the printer 
connected to the Mac mini running Tiger, but I can only see the file shares on 
the 6500 running OS 8.1.   Then I figured I would try using a shared printer on 
a windows 2003 server but again it sees files shares but no printers.   Is it 
because it is not a PS printer?   I am trying to share a Epson multifunction.  
I am going to try just using a PS printer that dumps it to a file later today.

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Re: Printing from a classic mac

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Well I I have successfully got the Windows server to share the workforce 
435 with the 6500 running OS 8.1.  I configured appletalk on the 6500 to 
use the ethernet port.  The windows server was setup as an appletalk router 
(I do not know if this is necessary, but it is working right now like that).

From the chooser I selected laserwriter 8 and the workforce printer shows 
up there.  After selecting it, it seemed to automatically configure it.  I 
was able to print from MS word with no problem.  Have not tried graphics 
yet, or a complext document, just one line of text so far.  More testing to 
come.

On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:42:50 PM UTC-4, Chris Tofu wrote:


 WHat dudes do with computers with rs-232 serial ports is connect that to 
 an older say pentium single boaard compter and transfer the files to be 
 printed to that and use it's facilities to drive a printer. The old macs 
 don't have rs-232, rs-422 or something, which is compatible enough for text 
 file transfers )I did it ages ago with a mac cable, can't remember which 
 one, between a mac 2 and an old hp 386). 



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 OK now my next topic.  Is it possible to print to a shared printer from a 
 classic mac (running OS 7,8 or 9). 
  
 Now that I am getting the networking things working my next hurdle is to 
 get them to print to a modern printer.  I have a PC box running windows 
 server 2003 r2.  This still has appletalk sharing on it.  I have shared a 
 printer on it, but I cannot see it via the desktop printer utility.   
  
 Sorry for all the questions here lately, but I am really an new to apple 
 stuff having only used apples briefly my first two years college around 
 1994.  Now I have the opportunity to feed my vintage computer habit, I am 
 sort of hooked on these old apples. 
  
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Classic mac networking

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Interesting I wonder why I can't install 7.6 on the 6500 then.  It boots to 
the improper version for this Macintosh screen.

I got 8.1 installed finally yesterday afternoon on the 6500.  TCP/IP works 
fine with Ethernet card it has and my router and switches that I have. It 
is not in one of the two expansion slots so I assume it is the original 
optional card.  I was hoping to have the 7.5.5 installed on the 6500 this 
but I just cannot get it to accept the 7.5.3 floppies I created from the 
Apple downloads.  I am hoping the restore CD will have 7.5.5 on it.

Now to get the 660AV on the network using the Apple AAUI to Ethernet 
adapter.  I suspect this one will and the se/30 will not like the router 
and switches I use.



On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:39:00 PM UTC-4, Jordan Utolia wrote:

 I was not aware of this. Good to know. 

 On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:37:33 AM UTC-6, Joao Encarnado wrote:

 The 6500 comes from the 5500... You talk about a optional ethernet card 
 so it must the card on comm slot. Those cards usually don't have handshake 
 so they can't link on modern switch/routers. You will need a old ethernet 
 10Mbit hub to connect the 6500 and link it up to the router.

 Joao.)


  BTW. System 7.6 doesn't have enablers. (
 http://support.apple.com/kb/ta28948) Enablers were eliminated with 7.5.3. 
 I would offer you Mac OS 8 on floppies but seeing that there are 27 install 
 disks, I'd think you'd like to reconsider that CD drive. :)


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Re: Install 7.5.3 without CD drive

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Just read that link below.  This explains my problem getting 7.6 installed:

I - These computers shipped with 7.5.5 and require the enabler with it. 
These do not support Mac OS 7.6. They do support Mac OS 7.6.1. 




On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:39:00 PM UTC-4, Jordan Utolia wrote:

 I was not aware of this. Good to know. 

 On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:37:33 AM UTC-6, Joao Encarnado wrote:

 The 6500 comes from the 5500... You talk about a optional ethernet card 
 so it must the card on comm slot. Those cards usually don't have handshake 
 so they can't link on modern switch/routers. You will need a old ethernet 
 10Mbit hub to connect the 6500 and link it up to the router.

 Joao.)


  BTW. System 7.6 doesn't have enablers. (
 http://support.apple.com/kb/ta28948) Enablers were eliminated with 7.5.3. 
 I would offer you Mac OS 8 on floppies but seeing that there are 27 install 
 disks, I'd think you'd like to reconsider that CD drive. :)


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Printing from a classic mac

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OK now my next topic.  Is it possible to print to a shared printer from a 
classic mac (running OS 7,8 or 9).

Now that I am getting the networking things working my next hurdle is to 
get them to print to a modern printer.  I have a PC box running windows 
server 2003 r2.  This still has appletalk sharing on it.  I have shared a 
printer on it, but I cannot see it via the desktop printer utility.  

Sorry for all the questions here lately, but I am really an new to apple 
stuff having only used apples briefly my first two years college around 
1994.  Now I have the opportunity to feed my vintage computer habit, I am 
sort of hooked on these old apples.

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Re: Install 7.5.3 without CD drive

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Well I actually got the 6500 ethernet card working last night.  I plugged 
it directly into the mac mini and gave it a static IP address and bam it 
worked.  Then plugged it into the switch it worked.  Even with DCHP.  But 
not I hosed the CD attempting to put the computer back into the original 
state.  So Now unless I can figure out how to get an OS installed on it I 
have to wait until the restore CD I purchased comes it.  :-/

I have 7.6.1 floppies, but they all state they will not work with this 
machine.  I am assuming it is because the system enabler is incorrect.  I 
tried to replace it, but there is not enough room on the floppy disk even 
after removing everything else but the system folder.

On Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:34:05 PM UTC-4, Jordan Utolia wrote:

 We'll have to do a little more investigation on the 6500 -- assuming it 
 has a problem, which it probably doesn't, because as Matt Burch said, if 
 it's not on fire, it's a software problem. 

 You can connect computers directly with a cross-over cable in an 
 emergency, skipping troublesome routers and switches. Some newer computers, 
 I think the Mac mini G4 is among them, have automatic cross-over or 
 straight switching but I wouldn't rely on that. 

 You can absolutely use the SCSI adapter with the SE/30. Better bet is to 
 get a PDS NIC for it, but those are about 40-50 bucks and don't always show 
 up often. (SE/30s are genuinely desirable and NICs for them are usually 
 complementary.) You'll *need* the driver for the SCSI thing, you can find 
 either one on macdrivermuseum or other places. While you're at it, you 
 might want to think about how you can make your Emergency Network Access 
 Disks -- I have a section on the Guide that talks about those. 

 Sit tight for a little bit on the Guide -- it sounds like it would be 
 quite useful for you. The site host has posted here recently so I'm sure 
 he's still kicking ;)


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Classic Mac Network

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I suppose I could use linux but I would like to keep it an all mac 
network with the mini being the bridge to the rest of the network.  But I 
suppose a linux server would also work just as well...

Here is my vision 

Have my SE/30, 660av and 6500 on an appletalk network.  I even have an old 
laserwriter that I am going to see if it still works and put that on the 
network.  Then I need a bridge to the outside world where I can migrate 
stuff to and from the appletalk network.

On Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:07:01 PM UTC-4, Jordan Utolia wrote:

 Most Mac mini's won't work very well as a central file server for anything 
 older than OS 9.1 (unless they ran Tiger) because the AFP versions are 
 incompatible. You could however, use Linux(or FTP) All of this has been 
 explained in the newbie-friendly Guide I posted the link to earlier.


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Re: Install 7.5.3 without CD drive

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Well the 6500 has the optional ethernet card, but I have not gotten it to 
work, but your comment about finding a router to work with half duplex has 
me wondering if that is the issue.  I have an new Asus GB ethernet router 
and the have only tried the 6500 connected to a GB switch that ggoes to 
that Asus router.

Good news is I also found an apple AAUI to 10BaseT adapter today, so that 
should work with the 660AV.  So I sould be able to use the one of the SCSI 
to ethernet on the SE/30 assuming I can locate the drivers for them 
correct?  If so not my only missing link is the router.  The Mac Mini is a 
G4 so Tiger would be no problem to put on it.

On Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:37:53 PM UTC-4, Jordan Utolia wrote:

 Yes I have noticed that earlier. I am sure the site owner is updating his 
 hardware or something. 

 Check back in a few days. 

 For a pure ethernet network, you'll need NICs for the SE/30 and the 6500 
 if it doesn't have a PCI or optional Ethernet card. The 660AV can just use 
 that AAUI port for an adapter, freeing up expansion slot(s) for other 
 things. Then you'll need to procure a router that won't have hiccups with 
 10BASE-T half-duplex -- I merely used a DLink WBR1610, which is an old 
 router. (I tried a NetGear WVR614v9 and it didn't work.) Add the Mac mini 
 and you'll be done -- but I don't know if it can run Tiger or not, which is 
 the last to work with all three computers at once. 

 There's other ways of doing all this, the Guide when it returns, explains 
 everything. (More to come too.)


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Re: Install 7.5.3 without CD drive

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I do have a few scsi zip drives, but would I need to load a driver on 7.1 
to get it to work.  So far it works fine.  Actually picked it up when it 
was going to be tossed at work.  Was sitting on a shelf for probably 10 
years with the external HD on top of it.  The rubber feet of the drive 
enclosure sort of melted a bit and I had to scrape it off the top of the 
centris.

It boots and runs fine so far on with 7.1 installed on it, but with no 
software to dry, I can't do much.  I may have one of those ethernet 
adapters.  There were piles of old mac related stuff that I also took, but 
I moved and it that box of stuff may have ended up in the toss pile.  I 
have to look tomorrow to see what I can find. No CD drive for it since if 
it did I would not be having this discussion.  

How many caps are involved in a complete re-cap job?  Is there a list of 
the values?

On Friday, March 14, 2014 6:08:07 PM UTC-5, Jordan Utolia wrote:

 The older Mac doesn't have to go online for it to still be useful. 
 Although I have sent an email using a late SE/30, 7.5.5, OT 1.3, iCab 
 2.9.9b and m.yahoo.com. Conventional AFP and FTP traffic doesn't require 
 Internet access -- I consider that merely a bonus since these older 
 machines are pretty slow doing that sort of stuff. 

 The half-duplex and full-duplex problem is a hardware one manifested by 
 the router. 

 The problem with CDs is probably fixable by doing MD5 or SHA1 sums of the 
 download. Any *NIX distro can $ dd it. Windows can use ImgBurn or the like. 

 The Legacy Recovery CD is a 7.6.1 bootable CD and should work very well in 
 this case, but we already ruled out the CD option. This leaves external 
 CDs, Zip disks, external MO drives, floppies, and the like. Me personally, 
 I would fix the CD drive, max out the RAM, fix any other issues like a weak 
 PSU or ill caps on the mobo and nab an AAUI adapter. Scoring a suitable HDD 
 will probably in order next. 


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Re: Big plea for datasheet

[Louis Ciotti]

Have you looked here:

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/CXA1035P-datasheet.html

From that page they state TA7774P is a similar part.  Might at least be a 
similar pin out.

At one time at work we had piles of old datasheet books, but we moved 
buildings back in October, and they all got tossed.

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:51:10 AM UTC-4, Mat Stalkman wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I am trying to locate the datasheet for a Sony IC, specifically a 
 stepper-motor driver IC labelled A1035 on the 16-pin DIP.

 I understand that the full IC ID is CXA1035P.

 I have found many references to CXA1035P and even where I can buy them but 
 all roads lead to 'No Stock'. And despite 'promises' of datasheets, the 
 resulting pages show no link to the datasheet.

 It's a very old IC, used in the 800k FDD [MF-51W-03] to operate the 
 stepper motor that moves the R/W heads. One of the units I am fixing is 
 running very hot on that chip.

 I am led to understand that Toshiba IC TA7774P is an appropriate 
 equivalent and I have the datasheet for that device. Since I have no Sony 
 datasheet with which to compare them, I don't want to order a part that is 
 useless to me.

 If anyone has access to very old [pre 1990] datasheet catalogues, I would 
 really appreciate a pin-out list please.

 When I was at Uni in '89, we constantly poured over datasheet catalogues 
 when we were trying to identify the pins on ICs for our projects.

 Many thanks,

 Keith



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Re: Install 7.5.3 without CD drive

[Louis Ciotti]

No CD-ROM.  It was optional  factory cover over the blank both plastic 
and internally still in place.  Now finding a CD-Drive for it would be 
nice, but I think that would be near impossible especially one that had the 
correct bezel to match.

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:36:08 AM UTC-4, flags wrote:

 On 3/11/14 11:52 AM, Louis Ciotti wrote: 
  I have a Centris 660av that if I cannot sell I would like to install 
  7.5.3 on it, but the image on apple's site is for a CD or HD install, 
  problem is how do this on a computer with no network or CD drive. 
  
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 Doesn't your 660av have a cdrom drive? McTracker shows one. If not then 
 the link louis gives should work. If doesn't try 
http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html 

 keep scrolling down until (see attachment off list) If I remember 
 correctly load disk images to a zip drive and using a scsi zip drive 
 copy to hard drive (it's been too long but you might be able to install 
 from zip or another HD. The key is mount all the disk images on desk top. 



 please note: my ISP is commanding an server name change. 
   brightok becomes cotc 


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Install 7.5.3 without CD drive

[Louis Ciotti]

I have a Centris 660av that if I cannot sell I would like to install 7.5.3 
on it, but the image on apple's site is for a CD or HD install, problem is 
how do this on a computer with no network or CD drive.

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SE/30 Case Screws

[Louis Ciotti]

One of my recent acquisitions is a working SE/30 with external Floppy.  My 
main problem...  all the case screws are missing (Both the SE/30 and the 
external FD).  Can someone recommend replacements that would be available 
at the local hardware store (The two on the top and the two on the bottom)? 
 The external floppy drive is missing the 4 screws on the bottom.

Thanks

Lou

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