Color Classic hard drive intermittent
My Color Classic has been intermittently failing to recognize the hard drive on reboot. Also, when idle overnight, the computer on waking is non-responsive. The mouse moves around the screen but menus don't respond and I can't select anything by clicking. Scans of the hard drive by Disk First Aid, Apple Personal Diagnostics, and Alsoft's Disk Express II seem to indicate the hard drive is fine. I have switched the hard drive out with another hard drive and have the same issues with the second hard drive and get the same results from diagnostic scans. Sometimes, not always, *Cmd+Option+P=R* to reset the pram, followed by holding the *D* key to force booting from the internal hard drive will result in booting from the hard drive. Because it doesn't always work I think it may just be coincidence when it does work. Also, the computer consistently boots from a Zip drive and the floppy drive. The computer has been recapped. Any suggestions on what to consider next? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent
Have you tried re-seating the drive connections and making sure they are firmly re-connected? Wesley On Tue, December 15, 2015 9:28 am, slaws wrote: > My Color Classic has been intermittently failing to recognize the hard > drive on reboot. Also, when idle overnight, the computer on waking is > non-responsive. The mouse moves around the screen but menus don't respond > and I can't select anything by clicking. > > Scans of the hard drive by Disk First Aid, Apple Personal Diagnostics, > and Alsoft's Disk Express II seem to indicate the hard drive is fine. I > have switched the hard drive out with another hard drive and have the same > issues with the second hard drive and get the same results from > diagnostic scans. > > Sometimes, not always, *Cmd+Option+P=R* to reset the pram, followed by > holding the *D* key to force booting from the internal hard drive will > result in booting from the hard drive. Because it doesn't always work I > think it may just be coincidence when it does work. > > Also, the computer consistently boots from a Zip drive and the floppy > drive. > > The computer has been recapped. > > > Any suggestions on what to consider next? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent
Wesley, Yes, I've swapped those drives out a couple of times during this process and so the connections have been removed and reconnected several times. Shane On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:00:59 AM UTC-5, Wesley wrote: > > Have you tried re-seating the drive connections and making sure they are > firmly re-connected? > > Wesley > > > On Tue, December 15, 2015 9:28 am, slaws wrote: > > My Color Classic has been intermittently failing to recognize the hard > > drive on reboot. Also, when idle overnight, the computer on waking is > > non-responsive. The mouse moves around the screen but menus don't > respond > > and I can't select anything by clicking. > > > > Scans of the hard drive by Disk First Aid, Apple Personal Diagnostics, > > and Alsoft's Disk Express II seem to indicate the hard drive is fine. I > > have switched the hard drive out with another hard drive and have the > same > > issues with the second hard drive and get the same results from > > diagnostic scans. > > > > Sometimes, not always, *Cmd+Option+P=R* to reset the pram, followed by > > holding the *D* key to force booting from the internal hard drive will > > result in booting from the hard drive. Because it doesn't always work I > > think it may just be coincidence when it does work. > > > > Also, the computer consistently boots from a Zip drive and the floppy > > drive. > > > > The computer has been recapped. > > > > > > Any suggestions on what to consider next? > > > -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Color Classic hard drive intermittent
Any chance the power connector is somewhat loose from lots of plugging and un-plugging? I had a PC years ago that occasionally had problems and I theorized it was a problem with the well-used power connection... Aside from that, I'm not sure what to suggest...other than maybe making sure it is terminated properly? Though I'm sure you've probably already checked that! Wesley _ From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintage-macs@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of slaws Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:44 PM To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent Wesley, Yes, I've swapped those drives out a couple of times during this process and so the connections have been removed and reconnected several times. Shane On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:00:59 AM UTC-5, Wesley wrote: Have you tried re-seating the drive connections and making sure they are firmly re-connected? Wesley On Tue, December 15, 2015 9:28 am, slaws wrote: > My Color Classic has been intermittently failing to recognize the hard > drive on reboot. Also, when idle overnight, the computer on waking is > non-responsive. The mouse moves around the screen but menus don't respond > and I can't select anything by clicking. > > Scans of the hard drive by Disk First Aid, Apple Personal Diagnostics, > and Alsoft's Disk Express II seem to indicate the hard drive is fine. I > have switched the hard drive out with another hard drive and have the same > issues with the second hard drive and get the same results from > diagnostic scans. > > Sometimes, not always, *Cmd+Option+P=R* to reset the pram, followed by > holding the *D* key to force booting from the internal hard drive will > result in booting from the hard drive. Because it doesn't always work I > think it may just be coincidence when it does work. > > Also, the computer consistently boots from a Zip drive and the floppy > drive. > > The computer has been recapped. > > > Any suggestions on what to consider next? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent
Could be the edge connectors at the front of the logic board need cleaned. On 12/15/2015 10:43 AM, slaws wrote: Wesley, Yes, I've swapped those drives out a couple of times during this process and so the connections have been removed and reconnected several times. Shane On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:00:59 AM UTC-5, Wesley wrote: Have you tried re-seating the drive connections and making sure they are firmly re-connected? Wesley --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent
I know proper termination is important and know how to check it on an external drive. I do not know how to check termination on the internal drive. How's that done? On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 9:10:10 PM UTC-5, Wesley wrote: > > Any chance the power connector is somewhat loose from lots of plugging and > un-plugging? I had a PC years ago that occasionally had problems and I > theorized it was a problem with the well-used power connection... > > Aside from that, I'm not sure what to suggest...other than maybe making > sure it is terminated properly? Though I'm sure you've probably already > checked that! > > Wesley > > > -- > *From:* vintag...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > vintag...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *slaws > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:44 PM > *To:* Vintage Macs > *Subject:* Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent > > Wesley, > > Yes, I've swapped those drives out a couple of times during this process > and so the connections have been removed and reconnected several times. > > Shane > > On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:00:59 AM UTC-5, Wesley wrote: >> >> Have you tried re-seating the drive connections and making sure they are >> firmly re-connected? >> >> Wesley >> >> >> On Tue, December 15, 2015 9:28 am, slaws wrote: >> > My Color Classic has been intermittently failing to recognize the hard >> > drive on reboot. Also, when idle overnight, the computer on waking is >> > non-responsive. The mouse moves around the screen but menus don't >> respond >> > and I can't select anything by clicking. >> > >> > Scans of the hard drive by Disk First Aid, Apple Personal Diagnostics, >> > and Alsoft's Disk Express II seem to indicate the hard drive is fine. I >> > have switched the hard drive out with another hard drive and have the >> same >> > issues with the second hard drive and get the same results from >> > diagnostic scans. >> > >> > Sometimes, not always, *Cmd+Option+P=R* to reset the pram, followed by >> > holding the *D* key to force booting from the internal hard drive will >> > result in booting from the hard drive. Because it doesn't always work I >> > think it may just be coincidence when it does work. >> > >> > Also, the computer consistently boots from a Zip drive and the floppy >> > drive. >> > >> > The computer has been recapped. >> > >> > >> > Any suggestions on what to consider next? >> >> >> -- > -- > - > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to vintag...@googlegroups.com > > To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Vintage Macs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vintage-macs...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Color Classic hard drive intermittent
On older drives, there are three resistor packs that look like this (though maybe ugly yellow or black): http://atariage.com/forums/uploads/monthly_07_2012/post-7524-0-94809200-1342 308910.jpg On newer drives, there will be a jumper to turn it on and off. Wesley _ From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintage-macs@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of slaws Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:56 AM To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent I know proper termination is important and know how to check it on an external drive. I do not know how to check termination on the internal drive. How's that done? On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 9:10:10 PM UTC-5, Wesley wrote: Any chance the power connector is somewhat loose from lots of plugging and un-plugging? I had a PC years ago that occasionally had problems and I theorized it was a problem with the well-used power connection... Aside from that, I'm not sure what to suggest...other than maybe making sure it is terminated properly? Though I'm sure you've probably already checked that! Wesley _ From: vintag...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintag...@ googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of slaws Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:44 PM To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent Wesley, Yes, I've swapped those drives out a couple of times during this process and so the connections have been removed and reconnected several times. Shane On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:00:59 AM UTC-5, Wesley wrote: Have you tried re-seating the drive connections and making sure they are firmly re-connected? Wesley On Tue, December 15, 2015 9:28 am, slaws wrote: > My Color Classic has been intermittently failing to recognize the hard > drive on reboot. Also, when idle overnight, the computer on waking is > non-responsive. The mouse moves around the screen but menus don't respond > and I can't select anything by clicking. > > Scans of the hard drive by Disk First Aid, Apple Personal Diagnostics, > and Alsoft's Disk Express II seem to indicate the hard drive is fine. I > have switched the hard drive out with another hard drive and have the same > issues with the second hard drive and get the same results from > diagnostic scans. > > Sometimes, not always, *Cmd+Option+P=R* to reset the pram, followed by > holding the *D* key to force booting from the internal hard drive will > result in booting from the hard drive. Because it doesn't always work I > think it may just be coincidence when it does work. > > Also, the computer consistently boots from a Zip drive and the floppy > drive. > > The computer has been recapped. > > > Any suggestions on what to consider next? -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/ <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/ <http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml> lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintag...@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs...@ googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ <http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs> group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs...@ googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ <https://groups.google.com/d/optout> optout. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Vintage Macs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googl