Macintosh SE Hard Drive
Hi I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE Thanks, Dan -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
Well its definitely not IDE. That's all the input I have on that. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:48 PM, wrote: > Hi > I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: > > PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE > PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE > > Thanks, > Dan > > -- > - > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to > vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:48 AM, dzeid...@mofo.com wrote: Hi I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE The SE only has support for SCSI, no IDE. SEs shipped with 3.5" 1/2 height SCSI drives. AFAIK they only shipped with 20 Mb drives although there may have been a model with a 40Mb drive. Clark Martin Redwood City, California Macintosh / Internet Consulting / Railfan "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE if you have an adapter for 2,5 inch drives, the SCSI could work. usually the SCSI drive in the SE is a 3,5 inch drive. -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
- Original Message > From: "dzeid...@mofo.com" > To: Vintage Macs > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 2:48:10 PM > Subject: Macintosh SE Hard Drive > > Hi > I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: > > PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE > PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE > Certainly not in any stock configuration ...but there are many modders out there that may have done it or know how to do it. Perhaps a better question to ask is it possible to use those drives and how to? --glen -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
It needs to be SCSI drive (50 pin), if it is not labeled for apple you need to do something to it to get it to work but it can be done (I'm not sure of what) but I am sure that others on the forum can help you with that. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:04 PM, glen wrote: > > > > > - Original Message > > From: "dzeid...@mofo.com" > > To: Vintage Macs > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 2:48:10 PM > > Subject: Macintosh SE Hard Drive > > > > Hi > > I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: > > > > PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE > > PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE > > > > Certainly not in any stock configuration ...but there are many modders out > there that may have done it or know how to do it. > > Perhaps a better question to ask is it possible to use those drives and how > to? --glen > > > > > > -- > - > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to > vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ > -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Abel Ortiz Monasterio wrote: > It needs to be SCSI drive (50 pin), if it is not labeled for apple you need > to do something to it to get it to work but it can be done (I'm not sure of > what) but I am sure that others on the forum can help you with that. http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html <--- use that patch to initialize compatible scsi hard drives that lack a apple rom -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
On Jan 26, 1:48 pm, dzeid...@mofo.com wrote: > Hi > I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: > > PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE > PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE The Outbound Laptop Model 125, which was a Macintosh clone laptop, used the PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE, or a very similar drive. It definitely used a PrairieTek 2.5" IDE drive in the 20 MB capacity. Whether it was that exact model I couldn't say. Jeff Walther -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Jeff Walther wrote: I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE The SE ... all of them ... used a SCSI 3.5* full-height ... 1-9/16* ... drive. Often Quantum, but possibly others. At that time, Quantum made ... in Japan, by Mitsubishi ... probably the best quality, lowest power SCSI drives. Later, Quantum and others would standardize on 1* drives the so- called *half-height* drives. This is the form factor which has been used ever since, in SCSI, ATAPI and SATA. -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:17 AM, PeterH wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Jeff Walther wrote: I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives: PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE The SE ... all of them ... used a SCSI 3.5* full-height ... 1-9/16* ... drive. Often Quantum, but possibly others. At that time, Quantum made ... in Japan, by Mitsubishi ... probably the best quality, lowest power SCSI drives. Later, Quantum and others would standardize on 1* drives the so- called *half-height* drives. This is the form factor which has been used ever since, in SCSI, ATAPI and SATA. Full height drives are 3" or a little more. This referred to the original 5.25" drives. 1.6" drives are half height and 1" drives are 1/3 height, regardless of width (3.5" or 5.25"). Thus the original SE drives were 1/2 height, the smaller drives now commonly used are 1/3 height. At one time I had a half dozen 20 Mb drives that I think were all made by MiniScribe. Rodime was another brand used. The MiniScribes I had were all 1/2 height and used a stepper motor for the head positioner. As a note to anyone planning to format such drives, those early drives had no buffer on the drive so the sectors were interleaved to give the computer time to process the data before reading the next sector. SEs used 2:1 interleaving and Pluses used 3:1 interleaving. This is selected as an option Clark Martin Redwood City, California Macintosh / Internet Consulting / Railfan "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/
