Re: Mac LC II help needed/Update!

[Steven]

I received the 475 yesterday.  The computer still would not boot via the
switchbox.  I reattached the 13" monitor, and set the monitors cotrol panel
to 16 colors (I wonder if I missed this on the LC II?).  I re-booted the
Mac.  I than hooked the 475 to the switch-box, took a deep breath, and
re-booted.  Lo-and-behold, it works!!!  I am a happy camper.  No Y-adaptors
for me!

Steven

I also replaced the monitor with another 1705 that I purchased off of eBay.
I was having problems with that, too.


> > I am "brand-new" to this list.  I have a Mac LC II and a Performa 6320,
> and
> > a Packard Bell M415 PC.  Currently, My Mac Performa/PC are sharing the
> same
> > 17" monitor (Mac 1705), keyboard, mouse through a switch box/black box.
I
> > also have these 2 computers networked together via Appletalk.
> >
> > Anyway...
> >
> > My Mac LC II has the IIe card in it.  If I directly attach the 1705
> monitor
> > to the LC II, then it will work (I have to change the colors control
panel
> > and reboot in order for the desktop to look OK).  If I use my Multiple
Mac
> > monitor/ADB switch box, the monitor will NOT work on the LC II.  The
> > keyboard works just fine.  My main objective is to eliminate clutter
> > (currently I Have the LC II on top of my desk with an old 13" monitor),
> and
> > to play Lode Runner on a HUGE 17" screen.  If I network the 2 Macs
> together
> > via Appetalk, I can not utilize the IIe card, because I need to turn of
32
> > bit addressing.
> >
> > Is there any sort of Y-adaptor that will allow me to connect 1 monitor
to
> 2
> > Macs?  Are there any other suggestions?
> >
> > Any suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Steven
> >



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RAM puzzlement

[Teri Pittman]

I've been playing around with a RAM upgrade on the IIci.  I was given 4
4MB, 70ns sticks for it.  It currently shows 8MB installed with what I
assumed were 1MB sticks.  The documentation I have says this model does not
have any on board RAM.

So, I started trying different combinations, to see if it would register
the new RAM. 
4s in Bank A, 1s in Bank B
1s in Bank A, 4s in Bank B
4s in Bank B, nothing in A (chimes of death)
4s in Bank A, nothing in B

I tried zapping PRAM twice after every test.  Every time, it showed the
same thing, 8 MB onboard.  I also made sure that I had 32bit mode turned
on, no difference.

I can understand that possibly I didn't have something seated right on my
tests.  I can't understand why I'm always getting the same results.  It
seems like I would be showing 4MB on at least one of these tests.  It also
seems that the top configuration would be the correct one.  If 70ns RAM is
a bad speed for this machine, it seems like the RAM wouldn't register at
all.  Am I missing something here?  I could test this RAM in another
machine, but I am interested in why I keep getting the same results in this
one.
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Re: RAM puzzlement

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>Subject: RAM puzzlement
>Date: Fri, May 24, 2002, 5:38 AM
>

> I've been playing around with a RAM upgrade on the IIci.  I was given 4
> 4MB, 70ns sticks for it.  It currently shows 8MB installed with what I
> assumed were 1MB sticks.  The documentation I have says this model does not
> have any on board RAM.

> Teri Pittman


Read off the numbers on the front of those 4 meggers, and type 'em in here.

I'd like to also know whether they're 3-chip ram, 4-chip, six-chip.

JEff

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Re: RAM puzzlement

[the pickle]

At 05:38 -0700 on 24/05/02, Teri Pittman wrote:

>I've been playing around with a RAM upgrade on the IIci.  I was given 4
>4MB, 70ns sticks for it.  It currently shows 8MB installed with what I

Are they *really* 4MB sticks, or are they just four more 1MB sticks?
That's the only explanation I can think of for your results, and it only
explains the first two.

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Re: RAM puzzlement

[Teri Pittman]

Will do that when I get home tonight.  They are two chip, I think.  They
were in a sealed static bag, with the sticker still on them (originally
$239!)

- Original Message -
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>
> --
> >From: Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs)
> >Subject: RAM puzzlement
> >Date: Fri, May 24, 2002, 5:38 AM
> >
>
> > I've been playing around with a RAM upgrade on the IIci.  I was given 4
> > 4MB, 70ns sticks for it.  It currently shows 8MB installed with what I
> > assumed were 1MB sticks.  The documentation I have says this model does
not
> > have any on board RAM.
>
> > Teri Pittman
>
>
> Read off the numbers on the front of those 4 meggers, and type 'em in
here.
>
> I'd like to also know whether they're 3-chip ram, 4-chip, six-chip.
>
> JEff
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Re: RAM puzzlement

[Teri Pittman]

>
> Are they *really* 4MB sticks, or are they just four more 1MB sticks?
> That's the only explanation I can think of for your results, and it only
> explains the first two.
>

I thought it might be that it's still using the original settings and hasn't
refreshed since I added the RAM.  This is OS 7.1, by the way.  Unless
someone managed to pop the sticker on the package and replace the chips,
they are 4 MB sticks.  The package looked untouched.  I thought that maybe
the chips were bad, so I wasn't too surprised when it didn't pick them up
the first time.  Just can't figure out why it's not showing a change with
four of the original sticks gone.


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Re: RAM puzzlement

[the pickle]

At 08:31 -0700 on 24/05/02, Teri Pittman wrote:

>the first time.  Just can't figure out why it's not showing a change with
>four of the original sticks gone.

Another thought - you *are* looking at the Total RAM in the About This
Macintosh window, right?  As opposed to the available RAM...

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Re: RAM puzzlement

[Teri Pittman]

> Another thought - you *are* looking at the Total RAM in the About This
> Macintosh window, right?  As opposed to the available RAM...
>

Yep, but the total RAM figure includes the 16MB on disk.  I'm starting to
think it might be useful to turn that off completely and see if I get
different figures.


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Re: RAM puzzlement

[the pickle]

At 09:34 -0700 on 24/05/02, Teri Pittman wrote:

>> Another thought - you *are* looking at the Total RAM in the About This
>> Macintosh window, right?  As opposed to the available RAM...
>>
>
>Yep, but the total RAM figure includes the 16MB on disk.  I'm starting to

You have VM on?

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Re: RAM puzzlement

[Teri Pittman]

>
> You have VM on?
>

Yep, I turned it on because I was using the machine on the Net and 8MB
wasn't enough.  I didn't try turning it off last night, but will play around
with that tonight.


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Re: unsubscribe

[Frank P. Eigler]

Was there a point in posting that to the list instead of emailing the
person directly (as I did :-)

Frank

PS: Inheirent hypocrisy noted ;-)

On Fri, 24 May 2002, the pickle wrote:

> At 06:08 -0600 on 24/05/02, Paul B. Wilson wrote:
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At 11:16 -0700 on 24/05/02, Frank P. Eigler wrote:

>Was there a point in posting that to the list instead of emailing the
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Yes.

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Re: unsubscribe

[Gary]

y wood I want to unscribe?

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Was there a point in posting that to the list instead of emailing the
person directly (as I did :-)

Frank

PS: Inheirent hypocrisy noted ;-)

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Re: unsubscribe

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At 19:37 -0400 on 24/05/02, Gary wrote:

>y wood I want to unscribe?

An excellent question without any answer.

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Re: RAM puzzlement

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--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Another thought - you *are* looking at the Total
> RAM in the About This
> > Macintosh window, right?  As opposed to the
> available RAM...
> >
> 
> Yep, but the total RAM figure includes the 16MB on
> disk.  I'm starting to
> think it might be useful to turn that off completely
> and see if I get different figures.

Virtual Memory OFF and 32bit mode ON. :) Then see
what it says.

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More on the RAM

[Teri Pittman]

Since Gamba asked, here are the details.  The label on the package says
"VCI 4MB 70ns 30 pin memory SIMM single"
 It's a 2 chip simm, that sort of half height size.  Back of the chip says
HB56G18B 8A 9241 XX

It dawned on me while looking at these that there could be one more
explantaion.  We assumed these were 4MB SIMMs.  It's possible the label
means 4MB total.  If they were 1MB simms, it might make a bit more sense
(although it wouldn't explain why it doesn't read 4MB total when I have
SIMMs in just one bank.)

I'm off to turn off virtual memory and play around with these again.

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Re: RAM puzzlement

[Teri Pittman]

>
>Virtual Memory OFF and 32bit mode ON. :) Then see
>what it says.
>

That was it.  They're 1MB SIMMs.  I turned off Virtual memory, put those
SIMMs in Bank A and got 4MB total RAM. Virtual memory must have masked it
somehow.

A couple of questions that hopefully won't take us OT:  At what point does
one become jaded at playing with these machines?  Are Power Macs ever as
much fun?

Thanks for all the help!

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Re: More on the RAM

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At 18:48 -0800 on 24/05/02, Teri Pittman wrote:

>Since Gamba asked, here are the details.  The label on the package says
>"VCI 4MB 70ns 30 pin memory SIMM single"
> It's a 2 chip simm, that sort of half height size.  Back of the chip says
>HB56G18B 8A 9241 XX
>
>It dawned on me while looking at these that there could be one more
>explantaion.  We assumed these were 4MB SIMMs.  It's possible the label
>means 4MB total.  If they were 1MB simms, it might make a bit more sense

Maybe, but I sort of doubt it - it wouldn't quite make sense with "single"
in there...

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Re: RAM puzzlement

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At 19:13 -0800 on 24/05/02, Teri Pittman wrote:

>A couple of questions that hopefully won't take us OT:  At what point does
>one become jaded at playing with these machines?  Are Power Macs ever as
>much fun?

1) Never.
2) Yes.

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Re: RAM puzzlement

[Teri Pittman]

> Are Power Macs ever as
>>much fun?
>
.
>2) Yes.
>

Really??  This 6100 doesn't seem nearly as interesting as the LC520s or
II-somethings.  Did I just get a boring beige Power Mac?

I confess, I have been eyeing the stuff on Mystics & Takkys.

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Re: More on the RAM

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--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm off to turn off virtual memory and play around
> with these again.

Make sure 32bit mode is ON too! :)

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Ethernet

[Steven]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2025931917

My friend recently came across one of these (twisted-pair).  What in the
world is this?

Steven


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[Steven]

I must admit, this looked intriguing to me, so I will call my ISP on Tuesday
(closed on Moday due to Memorial Day).

Is there such a kit available to eliminate SPAM?

Steven

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Re: Ethernet

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2025931917
> 
> My friend recently came across one of these
> (twisted-pair).  What in the
> world is this?

Twisted Pair? Ever see "Jay and Silent Bob Strike
Back" or "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"?

Oh, wait, that dongle is an AAUI to 10Base-T Ethernet
Transceiver. Most of the Quadras and early PowerMacs
plus a few NuBus and apple ][ Ethernet cards had
an AAUI connector to which could be attached dongles
for 10Base-T (RJ-45 jack), 10Base-2 (BNC), Token
Ring or other network connections.

AAUI = Apple AUI
AUI = Attachment Unit Interface which uses a DB-15
female connection that you DO NOT want to mix up with
a Mac monitor or a PC joystick/MIDI connection.

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