Re: Hooking up a LW IIf to Win2k and XP

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Thomas Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to set up a fileserver on a
> Win2K box for Macs?
> Also, does an SE/30 accept PowerPC accelerators?

You need 2K Server or 2K Advanced Server and install
Services For Macintosh. 2000 has FTP and Web server
services that'll work over a LAN, but they don't
provide the Apple filing system support than SFM does.

Microsoft almost included Services For Macintosh in
XP Pro. Windows Help tells you how to install it and
MS even had the info on their TechNet site. Too bad
they never included SFM with any version of XP. :(
I'd like to hear their explanation of why the Help
files and TechNet website for XP didn't have the SFM
info removed before the release of XP.

XP Pro can print to an AppleTalk printer, it has the
same AppleTalk Printing Devices option as 2000.
There's some optional stuff you have to install to
get that port type option when installing a "local"
printer. Don't ask me why it's under local instead
of network printers.

Friends don't let friends use XP Home. ;)

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Re: Hooking up a LW IIf to Win2k and XP

[Allan Hunter]

At 10:36 AM -0500 12/11/04, Thomas Burns wrote:
Does anyone know how to set up a fileserver on a Win2K box for Macs?
Also, does an SE/30 accept PowerPC accelerators?
There are at least four ways of setting up a fileserver on a Win2K 
box for Mac clients.

a) If your Win2K is the server version, I believe the install CD 
comes with an optional AppleTalk stack (for serving only), just as NT 
Server did.  Win NT Workstation, and therefore probably Win2K 
Workstation also, did not include this feature.  If you have Server, 
you set up AppleTalk shares and then the Macs can mount those shares 
from the Mac Chooser using AppleShare/AppleTalk.  Under Win NT 
Server, the setting up of the AppleTalk shares takes place not in the 
Windows Explorer (or whatever you call the Windows "Finder thingie", 
drilling down from "My Computer"), but rather in the ancient and 
arcane Windows 3.11-ish File Manager, which has a menu item that 
pertains to Apple services sharing.  I guess chances are good that 
under Win2K they moved this functionality to some place more modern 
(Forgive me, I'm obviously more familiar with NT Server).

b) There is an aftermarket AppleTalk stack for Windows that I'll 
vouch for as easy to set up and use (at least by 
adding-protocols-to-Windows standards):  Miramar Systems' PC MacLan. 
Oops, now owned by Computer Associates which bought them out, I keep 
forgetting that.  Same product, though.  Once you've got it 
installed, you right-click any volume or folder and select AppleTalk 
Sharing, give it a name, and you're golden.   On the Mac it appears 
like any other share via the Chooser using AppleShare/AppleTalk. 
Going the other direction, you can also mount Mac shares via Network 
Neighborhood. Back when Miramar owned it you could download trial 
versions, dunno about that now that CA has the product.

c) There's a competing product I have less familiarity with, called 
XTreme Z-IP, which does the same thing as PC MacLan.  They are 
heavily marketed to IT Departments with PC servers and Mac clients. 
Dunno about individual pricing.

d) Finally, there's a reverse product that puts Windows-style 
networking on the Macintosh so that pre-MacOS X Macs can access 
ordinary PC shares:  Thursby Software Systems' DAVE.  The older 
versions of DAVE (I used it back in the System 7 days) worked with 
the older Windows Networking where you'd set up a Workgroup and enter 
various NetBIOS configuration numbers.  I don't know if these older 
versions of DAVE would play nicely with a modern Active Directory 
type of Windows Network or not.  More modern versions of DAVE do, of 
course, but I don't know if there are MacOS 9 versions (let alone 68K 
Mac versions that will run under System 7 etc.).

Regarding an accelerator for the SE/30, there were many at one time, 
although some aren't being produced any more.  There was a 50 MHz 
'030 accelerator from DayStar and there were some '040 accelerators 
as well.  Doubt that there was a PowerPC card for it.  You might find 
some used on eBay, or if you want a new accelerator I think Sonnet 
still makes an '040.

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Hooking up a LW IIf to Win2k and XP

[Thomas Burns]

Just wanted to share a tip about something I figured out about hooking a 
LaserWriter IIf to a Mac IIci, a Win2k box and an XP box.
I was trying to get this old LaserWriter IIf on the home network so all 
these computer could share it.
The IIf is hooked up to the Mac IIci which is hooked up to the homenetwork 
via ethernet. It also has localtalk bridge on.

I went into my Win2k box and went under the start menu, control panels, 
network connections, local area connection, properties, general tab, and 
highlighted internet protocol, clicked install, clicked "protocol" and added 
AppleTalk. This only works on Windows 2000, XP doesnt support AppleTalk.

Then went to start, control panels, printers, add printers, local printer, 
create a new port (type AppleTalk Printing Devices). It should detect any 
AppleTalk printers, when you click ok don't "capture" it or it will only be 
available to your 2K box.

Share the printer. Any other systems on your network should be able to print 
to it, however all your printing has to pass through your 2K box and then 
through your Mac.

Does anyone know how to set up a fileserver on a Win2K box for Macs?
Also, does an SE/30 accept PowerPC accelerators?
Tom 

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