Re: forcing macos to boot (or a lesson from the school of hard knocks... take your pick)

[Kyle Koerner]

On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Samual Acorn wrote:


 and typed 'G' and pressed enter to
close the debugger...



Sam,
I learned about this a few months ago with an LC III and a similar 
situation with System 7.1...  Once you entered the debugger and pressed 
G, it started up, and you were greeted with system errors.  On mine, I 
was able to bypass those with the debug-g thing too.  A very handy 
trick, at least in my opinion.


Kyle-


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Re: forcing macos to boot (or a lesson from the school of hard knocks... take your pick)

[Samual Acorn]

the only way to get it too boot was by entering the debugger...
holding down shift without it still got me to the 'you need to
upgrade' window and no further...

On 19/09/05, Allan Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 8:47 AM -0600 9/19/05, Samual Acorn wrote:
> >
> >a 'safe mode' would have come in handy here.. anyone out there
> >have any infos as to why this even worked??
> 
> The Mac version of safe mode is generated by holding down the Shift
> key during boot.  It disables all extensions and control panels with
> "INIT" code in them, and therefore boots a "just the basics" version
> of the operating system.
> 
> I think entering the debugger was irrelevant, it was you continuing
> to hold down the shift key that did the job.
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Re: forcing macos to boot (or a lesson from the school of hard knocks... take your pick)

[Allan Hunter]

At 8:47 AM -0600 9/19/05, Samual Acorn wrote:


a 'safe mode' would have come in handy here.. anyone out there
have any infos as to why this even worked??


The Mac version of safe mode is generated by holding down the Shift 
key during boot.  It disables all extensions and control panels with 
"INIT" code in them, and therefore boots a "just the basics" version 
of the operating system.


I think entering the debugger was irrelevant, it was you continuing 
to hold down the shift key that did the job.

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forcing macos to boot (or a lesson from the school of hard knocks... take your pick)

[Samual Acorn]

humor? usefull info? take your pick... 

in an effort to speed up startup time and save ram i removed (among
many other things) what seemed to be a useless file called 'powerbook
duo enabler' from the system folder of a duo 210 running system 7.1
(later i find out that what apple calls enablers are OS patches... i
have removed them on other macs but they werent needed because the os
had been updated... removing them then didnt do anything so i thought
the files were pointless...)  and on reboot i get a message saying
that macos 7.1 is too old to run on this hardware... and that i need
to run the setup program to reinstall/update the os (cant remember how
it put it exactly)  and the only clickable button was 'restart'
yay

but im from the PC world and even DOS 1.0 will boot on any intel
machine... regardless of how new... so i thought 'why the hell wont
macos boot on any machine .. all i need is basic functionality to put
that file back in place anyway'

so now with no floppy drive or dock i now have a powerbook duo
paperweight (or an interesting nightlight since it would just sit
there with that window open and the lcds backlight would never be
triggered to dim since there was no OS running)

out of curiosity i wondered if the debugger could be started from that
point (apple+power)... it could... so i figured i would get on the web
and look for commands for it... but due to my procrastinating ways i
just thought 'ill do it later'... and typed 'G' and pressed enter to
close the debugger...

much to my amazement when the debugger closed i got the oh-so-familiar
'welcome to macintosh' and the os started loading... complete with
system extensions... but since the patch wasnt in place when the
extension for the duos internal modem loaded the system crashed with a
rather odd error message (f-prot something... cant remember... and
im not about to replicate this situation) ... so i reset the
machine... waited for the 'you need to reinstall' message... opened
the debugger... held the shift key and typed 'G' and pressed enter
(shift key down the whole time)... got 'welcome to macintosh...
extensions disabled'...  also got the 'basic functionality' i was
looking for problem fixed (apparently procrastination has its
good points)...

a 'safe mode' would have come in handy here.. anyone out there
have any infos as to why this even worked??

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Old Macworld Mags

[Powermac]

Anybody happen to have the OCT 1992 Issue of Macworld? Was wondering if you
can scan a few pages for me of an article on Accelerators starting on page
181.

Macworld -- Oct-92
  a.. Accelerators -- pg. 181
a.. Performance/040 (33 MHz)
b.. Radius Rocket 33
c.. TokaMac II FX 33

Also if you have any Macworlds from 1990-95 you don't want anymore let me
know.


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