Re: Apple Internet Router

[Sherman Chen]

You will need to have a LocalTalk to Ethernet Bridge - you should be  
able to download that from the Apple website and possibly low end mac.


Otherwise, you will need a SCSI to Ethernet Adaptor.

Sherman
On Oct 3, 2005, at 6:47 PM, Thomas Burns wrote:


Hi,
Does anyone know how to hook a Mac Plus up to DSL via a LocalTalk  
cable and another Mac? I've got the Plus running 7.0.1 and MacTCP  
with 4mbs RAM and a 20mb HD. It's sitting next to an SE/30 with  
7.5.5 connected directly to a hub that's connected to a DSL  
router.  All my Macs can see the Plus and the Plus can see all the  
other Macs. From what I've read, I need Apple's Internet Router on  
the SE/30 and the Plus would have it's gateway set to the SE/30s IP  
address, correct? Now would this allow me to run a server off the  
Plus and can I just assign it an IP? So if I put MacHTTP on it and  
open a port, let's say 81 can someone ping it from the outside  
world? Where do I get Apple's Internet Router? I've looked around  
for it but just found patches on the old software site. Is it an  
addon that comes with system 7.5.5?


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Apple Internet Router

[Thomas Burns]

Hi,
Does anyone know how to hook a Mac Plus up to DSL via a LocalTalk cable and 
another Mac? I've got the Plus running 7.0.1 and MacTCP with 4mbs RAM and a 
20mb HD. It's sitting next to an SE/30 with 7.5.5 connected directly to a 
hub that's connected to a DSL router.  All my Macs can see the Plus and the 
Plus can see all the other Macs. From what I've read, I need Apple's 
Internet Router on the SE/30 and the Plus would have it's gateway set to the 
SE/30s IP address, correct? Now would this allow me to run a server off the 
Plus and can I just assign it an IP? So if I put MacHTTP on it and open a 
port, let's say 81 can someone ping it from the outside world? Where do I 
get Apple's Internet Router? I've looked around for it but just found 
patches on the old software site. Is it an addon that comes with system 
7.5.5?


Thanks

Thomas


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Re: Dead IIsi

[Liam Proven]

On 03/10/05, Scott Baret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the power supply is known to be good chances are
> you've got a busted logic board. I wouldn't go so far
> to scrap your IIsi but if you can find another logic
> board and it works fine you've isolated the culprit.
>
> Also check the connection of the power supply. I once
> thought an LC was dead but my problem was that I left
> the power supply disconnected (a genius idea).

The power /cable/ is known to be good. No idea about the PSU but it
becomes slightly warm if left connected overnight.

I have no other similar Macs to swap parts with. I have a 6100, 2
LC475s, a (dead) Classic II, a 7300/166, a Beige G3 and an old
Powerbook - possibly a 145, I forget. Nothing I can swap PSUs or logic
boards in and out from, though, I don't think.

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Re: email on older macs

[Ruffin Bailey]

I always enjoyed [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the "lite" version does POP3 (can't 
recall if
it does IMAP, though I'd assume so) well, at least for one account.  Runs
very fast on older Macs and has good features.  Recently when I got an old
PB 520 online I used Netscape's (v3 iirc) mail client -- there's an option
to have it boot up into the mail handler.  In spite of the fact that it's
really not so hot for browsing (Netscape 3 or the old Mac), having it boot
into the mail handler worked well, and allowed some simplistic html message
rendering.

YMMV, IANAL, LMNOP,

Ruffin Bailey 


On 10/3/05 3:30 PM, "Vintage Macs"  wrote:

> I have a qnty older macs, lc475 - 7200 and modems.  How best to set up these
> machines for email  (Anticipating the machines might be too smalll for web
> browsing).
> 
> thanks any advice


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Re: Dead IIsi

[Scott Baret]

If the power supply is known to be good chances are
you've got a busted logic board. I wouldn't go so far
to scrap your IIsi but if you can find another logic
board and it works fine you've isolated the culprit.

Also check the connection of the power supply. I once
thought an LC was dead but my problem was that I left
the power supply disconnected (a genius idea).

Scott

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> resurrect my little IIsi.
> 
> All peripherals attached; none. No hard disk. No
> floppy. Fresh battery.
> 
> Nothing makes any difference. It won't power on,
> from a known-good lead.
> 
> Can anyone suggestion any ideas, or is it a one-way
> trip to the
> trashcan for this old girl?
> 
> (Unless anyone wants a free dead Mac IIsi in the
> London area.)
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Dead IIsi

[Liam Proven]

Well, I've tried everything I can think of to resurrect my little IIsi.

All peripherals attached; none. No hard disk. No floppy. Fresh battery.

Nothing makes any difference. It won't power on, from a known-good lead.

Can anyone suggestion any ideas, or is it a one-way trip to the
trashcan for this old girl?

(Unless anyone wants a free dead Mac IIsi in the London area.)

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Re: jumping - HDDs and termination

[Mark Benson]

On 3 Oct 2005, at 07:26, John de Boer wrote:



Hello all

I have a qnty old macs, LC113, 4475 up to 6200/120, as well as a qnty
external cases for HDD and CD and zip drives (some of the external  
cases
have small HDD in them). I also have a qnty of HDDs (mostly in the  
range of
1Gb - 3gb) that I wish to put in the external cases, all are scsi.  
Some of
the external cases have internal leads from the terminator "switch  
1<>6" as

well as leads to LEDs.

Will very appreciate your advice how to work out the "jumping" on  
the HDDs
to connect up to the terminator switch and how to determine where  
to connect
the leads to the LEDs. And, if the terminator switch is not  
connected, will
jumping the pins on the HDD in a certain way result in the HDD  
having its

own terminator? In the latter case, how is the ID number determined?


All the above depend on the manufacturer and model of the drive. Try  
to work that out, there is almost always a label on the top of the  
drive that at least contains the manufacturer and model of the disk.  
Once you know you can look it up on one of these sites, or in your  
favorite search engine:


 - Hitachi and IBM hard disks

 - Seagate and Conner hard disks

 - Maxtor and Quantum hard disks

 -  
Fujitsu hard disks


 -  
HP hard disks (general support page)


 - Toshiba hard disks

Generally those pages either have a 'Search' box that yields results  
by model number or they have obvious hard disk sections. They should  
keep the setup sheets for the drives on file, I've not failed to find  
on in all the years I have been trying from one of those manufacturers.


That will tell you where your jumpers are and wether you can link  
them up to each drive.



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Re: Quantum Viking Hard Drives

[John Niven]

Thanks for all the replies - here are some responses

On Oct 2, 2005, at 2:07 AM, Mark Benson wrote:
I now flatout refuse to buy any Quantum 68-pin or 80-pin SCSI drives 
because if they have been near a Compaq, Dell, IBM or HP server the 
firmware is always butchered.


I have recently been playing with Viking II and Atlas IV drives and 
have had good success
with them. For example I have 5 Viking II 8.5Gb mounted on a five-drive 
shelf in a Quadra 950. They are hooked up to a ATTO silicon express IV 
SCSI card. I use one as a boot drive (OS 8.1), and the other four use 
REMUS V1.4 s/w to form a RAID 4 array :-)


However, I must admit that these drives came from a former employer who 
had bought them new to use in a Linux based server farm. So they would 
have had the Quantum standard firmware, which kinda proves your point.


It may be worth checking Maxtor's data sheets for the drives before 
you pitch them into a dark corner to see if there are any other ID 
setting jumpers on the drive. Most 68-pin drives have them front and 
rear.


I checked all that out before - got the datasheet from the Maxtor web 
site. But if the firmware isn't standard then my jumper info is 
probably useless.


Oddly I have no issues with them on OS X machines. I guess OS X looks 
sufficiently like UNIX to throw the firmware a curved ball ;o).


Can't run that on the Quadra 950 - even with a 66MHz PPC upgrade :-)

On Oct 2, 2005, at 3:33 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

What I usually do with SCSI drives that give me guff
on a Mac is to low level format them on an Adaptec
2940 PCI SCSI controller in a PC. There's no
operating system involved since it runs from the BIOS
on the controller.


I agree! I'm using a BusLogic device but its the same thing. I always 
format and verify on this setup first before going to a Mac platform. 
In this case I haven't got that far :-(



If you're converting SCA80 drives to some other type
of connector, make sure the adaptor has jumpers for
setting ALL the functions common on those drives.


These are 68pin and (in the Mac) I'll be using them hooked to either an 
ATTO silicon express IV or a FWB JackHammer card, both having 68pin 
"wide" connections.



Another important thing is termination power. At most
two devices should be set to send termination power
to the bus.


I'm sure I read it recommended to have all the devices supply power. I 
think they are all diode protected anyway so it shouldn't make a 
difference


On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Darren wrote:
Gregg's point's regarding the jumpers,  J3 would be best to configure 
the rear one affects the *chain* from what I read. Returning the the 
wrong scsi ID seems odd as I don't see why it would be firmware or 
what real use such a feature would have ..


On my test PC only one device is attached at a time. I removed all the 
jumpers except the small one for termination power, and I used the J3 
connector to select termination enable.



Model # please and good luck


One label says:

2275W P/N VK22W012 Rev 04-H

The main label has "Quantum Viking 3.5 series 2.2Gb SCSI DISK DRIVE" 
but also the HP logo and "HP P/N D5094-60101"



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email on older macs

[John de Boer]

hello world of mac enthusiasts

I have a qnty older macs, lc475 - 7200 and modems.  How best to set up these
machines for email  (Anticipating the machines might be too smalll for web
browsing).

thanks any advice

ps I have a qnty of cards; some of them i don't know what they are, but i
did notice a couple of e11 emulators, came out of lc's. What's the best way
identifying them

you guys are great

John

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