Re: Monitor Meltdown - did I kill my expensive monitor?
I see things like it (sometimes in color), oftentimes just as soon as a monitor starts up, just before you see the picture the computer is supposed to be sending, usually at startup. Even when the resolution was the right 1. It seems to be more a function of the video card/built-in video than the monitor. I had an ixMicro card that would often flash something like a grating pattern at startup, an ATI Mach64 card that would get horizontal lines forming progressively over the raster, even after the Happy Mac appeared, when used with a 2ary monitor on my beige G3, until some driver or something loaded, everything was fine (usually). (This is a known problem with some ATI cards used with a G3. Eventually I got tired of that, even tho' it was harmless, sold it.) Anyway, to answer your question about a PRAM battery, I've never heard of a monitor that had one. Sometimes the more high-end 1s have a flash EPROM, or non-volitile RAM. If the raster is apparent, even if only black, then the guns are firing. The only reason I can imagine that there would be no picture with several different output sources, is that maybe a pin on the connector was bent or something. Or maybe a cold solder joint on the mainboard, that just happened to manifest itself then there, perhaps under presure of an intense overdriving of the CRT? Apparently the signal is just not there. -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ And does anybody know what that BIZARRE plaid monochrome pattern that took over my screen might have been? It looked like some kind of test pattern... like something you'd use to align the monitor's settings, perhaps... maybe it was located in the monitor's firmware? Lastly, does anybody know if these monitors (Radius Intellicolor 20e) have some type of internal lithium battery that keeps alive the settings information? If so, then perhaps that battery's gone dead! Where would I find the battery (if there even is one)? Again, thanks so much in advance for your help. I eagerly await your replies. I'm in Digest mode, so I only get to see your postings once a day. Cheers, Greg Shafritz -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor Meltdown - did I kill my expensive monitor?
Help, please, if you can! TIA! All the best, Greg Does the light on the front still light up when you power on? If so, there still may be hope...maybe the card you were trying to start it up with didn't do the resolution the monitor supports, now its PRAM, so to speak, is all fouled up. Is there some way of resetting it? Some button? Some expensive monitors have flash RAM, if you start them up in a certain way, with a certain combination of buttons pushed, they revert to factory settings. -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AppleScript for 7.1.1
So if I find a copy of 7.1 on Apple's site I should be able to extract AppleScript? I don't think you will find it on Apple's site. I bought mine on Ebay. Steve I wonder if you can extract the AppleScript that came with 7.5.x from the free 7.5.3 disk tomes? It might be old/young enough to work with 7.1.1... -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 68-pin SCSI to 50/25 pin
To make things worse, SCSI voodoo, as its called, happens because sometimes (often) SCSI will appear to work even when you configure things incorrectly. This can lead to unnoticed corruption of your devices, or just a bus that works okay and lends you a false sense of security. Then one day it stops working, and you declare SCSI voodoo when what really happened is that it was wrong all along and suddenly the SCSI bus noticed. Jeff Walther A silicon circuit that suddenly pops its head up notices something. How is that not worthy of the term Voodoo? :O) -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Another toy
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:12:11 +0200 Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]Even Apple didn't know how many pages per minute it an print in draft mode (no info about that on the specs page), but it seems to print pretty fast that way, except for the fact that the result looks downright ugly in draft mode. Pretty much unusable actually. I think it is has something to do with the font because it also prints in a smaller font when printing in draft mode.[...] Draft mode is supposed to look best ( run fastest) when you set the font on the Mac (that is, on the document to be printed) in Monaco 10 (the bitmapped version). Then you set it back again when you want to print in a better mode. That's what I read in some edition of the MacWorld Secrets book. Apparently Monaco 10 corresponds most closely to the built-in font in the ImageWriter's ROM. The question is, where do you get it? None of my System Suitcases or installer files from 6.0.8 to 7.6.1 seem to have a Monaco 10 bitmap size. Just TrueType. Maybe that works just as well, but probably slower. Maybe it's in the Mac's ROM. -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 24 bit addressing !@#$!?
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 03:28 PM, Gamba wrote: The LC/LCII/ClassicII-type Macs had some special mojo put in the memory controller/ROM setup to enable them to see 10 MB, rather than the usual 8 that most System 6-capable Macs see under 24-bit addressing. Jutso If 7.1 was installed on LC/LCII/ClassicII-type Macs, and if memory control panel was set to 24 bit addressing, would that yield 8MB or 10MB of RAM? Hey Gamba, I tried it last night. On a Classic II, you get exactly the same amount of available memory (10MB, according to the about this Mac panel) for both 24bit and 32bit addressing. As these machines don't have any NuBus slots, perhaps the ROM uses the 68030 MMU to add the extra RAM into that space. I sure would like to see a memory map of these machines. OS 6.0.8L will not install on a IIci. John http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintos h_CPUs-68K_Desktop/Mac_Classic_II.pdf has some interesting remarks, see particularly pp. 10 - 12. -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 24 bit addressing !@#$!?
I've just confirmed that my Classic II, running OS 6.0.8L, has a total memory of 10,240KB, the largest free block is 9,102KB, Finder uses 160KB, while the system uses 978KB. Does this elevate the Classic II from Road Apple status as a OS 6 machine? :-) In my book no Mac that can run system 6 is a road apple. Running system 6 neutralizes one of the most important weaknesses the LC II and the Classic II have: not being able to recognize more than 10 mb Ram. So if I could get OS 6.0.8L to run on my IIci, could I get it to recognize more than 8MB? Forget it. 6.08L probably won't install on it anyway. See gamba's system 6 page for ideas on how to deal with to much memory or setup a ram disk and make your mac fly. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny The LC/LCII/ClassicII-type Macs had some special mojo put in the memory controller/ROM setup to enable them to see 10 MB, rather than the usual 8 that most System 6-capable Macs see under 24-bit addressing. Propably something similar to the way that Connectix did it, but hard-wired, so you couldn't see more than 10 even when you had more, or were under 32-bit addressing, as under System 7...hey, it's not a bug, it's a feature! You're right in that 24 bits should give you 16 megs, but Apple reserved half that for ROM/video cards, etc. If you're not using all that space, tho', products like Maxima could grab some of it for use as system memory, or for RAM disks. -- Over, Jutso http://pages.ripco.net/~jutso/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac LC questions
On Tuesday, Jan 14, 2003, at 20:25 Europe/London, Bill Judson wrote: I still have it, but it's a 475 now -- soon to be with FPU -- wish me luck not breaking any pins! The pins are pretty soft on Motorola 040 chips. I bent one over double on itself last night trying to fit it to one of my crop of LCs and managed to *carefully* straighten it out again using a razor blade and a pari if fine tipped plairs. I do have a full 040 in my Quadra 805 hack now though, so it really is a Quadra now :) -- Mark Benson I did an LC040-to-full-FPU-040 upgrade on my Performa 400 series machine yestereve, some of the pins got bent a lttle on my pull, as well as the 1 I was putting in, in the course of the makeover. Someone, I forget who, on these lists suggests using the tip of a leadless mechanical pencil to straighten the pins, placing it around the pin just twisting the pencil slightly in the needed direction. The operation went smoothly otherwise, although I got a brief panic attack when the machine wouldn't light up the monitor, although there was a chime. I quickly realized that I had allowed the PRAM batt to go soft, fortunately that's all it was. Whew! (Funny, cuz I had left the 475 unused, but plugged in all this winter...some people say that that doesn't keep the batt charged, since the LCs don't have soft power-on, so maybe that's true) -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Value 040i
I'm confused about which Macs the DayStar Value 040i will work in. Can somebody please post a list of which Macs it will work in, with or without an adapter? Gamba I have a Daystar brochure from c. 1995 that clearly states that the Value 040 is compatible with the Mac LC, LC II, Performa 400, 405, 401, 430 (all LC IIs), the Colo(u)r Classic. Doesn't say it's compatible with anything else. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Java, 68k
On Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:04:38 -0800 James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I've never seen it anywhere. I've only seen it referenced, much like MRJ 2.0 for 68k is reference on one of the Mac OS install CDs. On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 01:01 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gold version, the one they charged for, supposedly does. Of course, I've never seen such a beast... I didn't see it here. ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/ Is this it? ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Java/MRJ_2.0.sit.hqx Warning: 11 MB download! -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Java, 68k
(...The MRJ 2.0, that is!) -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIci
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:03 -0500 Charles Shannon Hendrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 03:52:18PM -0400, Sara Johnson wrote: What frightens me is that not only do I identify with this statement, but I have been wishing for a computer room for years now, and I am seriously considering remodeling the basement solely for this purpose... One day I hope to have a basement, because it's long past having been considered... :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Reninds me of something I saw on the web, on my way to look up other things: from http://avinformatics.org/newslter/1992/sepoct92.txt (towards the end) from CLOSING BITS *** To My Darling Husband Source: Copied from Hughes El Segundo's Mac-HAC'ers CLIPBOARD February 1991 - Volume 6 - Number 6 TO MY DARLING HUSBAND, I am sending you this letter via this BBS communications thing, so that you will be sure to read it. Please forgive the deception, but I thought you should know what has been going on at home since YOUR COMPUTER entered our lives TWO YEARS AGO. The children are doing well. Tommy is seven now and is a bright, handsome boy. He has developed quite an interest in the arts. He drew a family portrait for a school project, all the figures were good, and the back of your head is very realistic. You should be very proud of him. Little Jennifer turned three in September. She looks a lot like you did at that age. She is an attractive child and quite smart. She still remembers that you spent the whole afternoon with us on her birthday. What a grand day for Jenny, despite the fact that it was stormy and the electricity was out. I am doing well. I went blonde about a year ago, and discovered that it really is more fun! George, I mean, Mr. Wilson the department head, has uh, taken an interest in my career and has become a good friend to us all. I discovered that the household chores are much easier since I realized that you didn't mind being vaccumed but that feather dusting made you sneeze. The house is in good shape. I had the living room painted last spring; I'm sure you noticed it. I made sure that the painters cut holes in the drop sheet so you wouldn't be disturbed. Well, my dear, I must be going. Uncle George, uh, Mr. Wilson, I mean, is taking us all on a ski trip and there is packing to do. I have hired a housekeeper to take care of things while we are away, she'll keep things in order, fill your coffee cup and bring your meals to your desk, just the way you like it. I hope you and the computer will have a lovely time while we are gone. Tommy, Jenny and I will think of you often. Try to remember us while your disks are booting. Love, Karen *** -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mac Explorer [was Mac IIci]
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:54:50 -0500 Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 03:44:27AM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Here is the page: http://www.prgrsoft.com/pages/disktop.html Nice program, but $50 is a bit steep. That's five times the cost of my Mac... :) I believe that the earlier versions of The Macworld Book of Secrets, by Jim Heid David Pogue, had a free version of Disktop on the floppies, (or, later, CDs, but I'm not sure, since I don't have a copy with me right now. I know the latest edition has all its files on a (password-protected) website, I don't have the password, since I don't have a copy of that edition. Maybe in the public libraries...?) -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Video card OR: SCSI-10bT
At 12:17 -0500 on 26/10/02, Bill Judson wrote: Yes. I also inderstand that the 8*24 series just doesn't do 1024 x 768 at any scan rate, period, with or without an adaptor, altho' 1 would have to find a fixed-rate Apple-connector 1024x768 monitor (if such a beast exists) to prove it for 1self. I don't get why people think this. Does Apple themselves say it won't? Not in anything I've seen... -- Yes. (If it did support 1024 x 768, they would have proclaimed it proudly, no?) http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=5423 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=5422 the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:jmug;ftp.jmug.org//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Video card OR: SCSI-10bT
At 21:39 -0500 on 25/10/02, Bill Judson wrote: 72Hz is also not a typical 1024x768 frequency, which might have been part of the problem. -- The XE15 does 75 Hz also, but the 8*24 doesn't do either scan rate. With that adaptor, you mean. Yes. I also inderstand that the 8*24 series just doesn't do 1024 x 768 at any scan rate, period, with or without an adaptor, altho' 1 would have to find a fixed-rate Apple-connector 1024x768 monitor (if such a beast exists) to prove it for 1self. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:jmug;ftp.jmug.org//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIci
At 22:26 -0400 on 25/10/02, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 06:03:51PM -0400, the pickle wrote: What is it about 7.5 that is slower? Most everything. Startup time, the Finder itself, WWW browsing... I mean what is in it, what changed from 7.1, that is slower. For example, is the OS doing more work and offering more services? Or, is it just the extras that slow things down? Both. One way to speed up the general feel of operations in 7.5 ( later) is to ditch Apple Menu Options. That thing has to create/update an alias every time you open/close/save a document, necessitating a disk access. The hierarchical menu also slows things down a lot, especially if you put lots of items/folders the Apple menu. The worst thing to do is make an alias of your whole hard drive in the Apple menu, especially on an '030. Linger just a bit over that line when you scroll down with the mouse, listen to your drive churn. There are better hierarchical utilities, as has been noted. While we're on the subject of disk access, it should be noted that increasing your Disk Cache under 7.5 +, if you can spare the RAM, is a better investment to speed things up than in earlier systems. The old rule of 32k per meg installed doesn't apply any more. Some people say boost it up as far as the Memory cp will allow you (for some reason, it won't go any higher than to stop at about 8 megs on most (older) Macs. Even my 8100 with 264 MB. Anybody know why?) That way, as you go along, you will eventually have the whole System Finder, much of your apps, loaded into RAM! But I get just as good results with 1 meg, I think. Also, I might add, contrary to widespread belief, that using Appearance on an earlier system does not slow anything down substantially. Hey, I've used it on an LCII without noticeable effect! [...] -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:jmug;ftp.jmug.org//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Video card OR: SCSI-10bT
At 13:24 -0500 on 21/10/02, Bill Judson wrote: At 11:48 -0500 on 19/10/02, Bill Judson wrote: [...] resolutions above 640 x 480. It didn't do 1024 x 768, or VGA/SVGA/XGA/VESA. With what monitor? -- the pickle An NEC XE15, NEC 2V (14, but it does 1024 x 768 at 72 MHz) are what I tried those resolutions with. I take it both required an adapter? Without an adaptor, all you get is 640 x 480. (The 8*24 doesn't have sense pins to see multiple syncs at any 1 time.) With an adaptor, you also get 832 x 624 1152 x 870, if the monitor supports them. (Or if the monitor is an Apple fixed-frequency at 1 of those resolutions, it doesn't need an adaptor. The 8*24 4*8 also do 512 x 384 on a 12 RGB. I believe the GC doesn't do that, or at least that's what I've read. I've never owned 1.) 72Hz is also not a typical 1024x768 frequency, which might have been part of the problem. -- The XE15 does 75 Hz also, but the 8*24 doesn't do either scan rate. the pickle -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Video card OR: SCSI-10bT
At 11:48 -0500 on 19/10/02, Bill Judson wrote: [...] resolutions above 640 x 480. It didn't do 1024 x 768, or VGA/SVGA/XGA/VESA. With what monitor? -- the pickle An NEC XE15, NEC 2V (14, but it does 1024 x 768 at 72 MHz) are what I tried those resolutions with. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Video card OR: SCSI-10bT
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 22:31:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I should clarify a little more. It does *not* have actual vram slots, just the space for them (two rows of 68pins of little dots, no actual slots). LEM says that the 8*24 supports up to XGA (1024x768) at 24bit video. My card does have a Bt RAMDAC chip on it, but i guess it is not humongous, only about 1.5 each side. Should I try getting a used MultiScan and attempt higher resolutions (i'm only using two 12 512x384's) using the card? Don't bother buying a 15, at least not for getting higher resolutions with higher color depth with the 8*24 Apple card. LEM is wrong (*and* Gamba -- both probably got it from Apple, which had (has?) some bad info in their charts.) I had 1 that was revision B, too, but I sold it. It only did 256 colors at resolutions above 640 x 480. It didn't do 1024 x 768, or VGA/SVGA/XGA/VESA. I believe the 8*24 GC could do 16-bit at 832 x 624, at least the rev. B C cards. You also have to have an adaptor to make it work at higher resolutions with a multi-sync monitor, PC multi-syncs have to support sync-on-green. (I had NEC monitors, which do. So do most Sonys, I'm told.) Apple fixed-res monitors, like the 21, will work without the adaptor. It has to be a (rather rare) Mac-to-Mac DB-15 adaptor, however, to work with Apple-branded ( -cabled) multi-syncs. Griffin makes them. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Holy Double Display, Batman!
Does it just say AppleColor RGB or AppleColor High-Resolution RGB on the back? It makes a lot of difference: the AppleColor RGB (no High-Resolution) was made for the Apple IIGS, not the Mac IIs, it won't work on a Mac properly without some obscure video card...I should know, I was given 1 once. Another clue is that the IIgs monitor has a rounded back, whereas the Mac monitor has a square (beveled) back. Sara, if perchance you are anywhere near the Chicago, Illinois USA area, I have the real deal (the 1 for the Mac) that you could come take. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Radius mystery card (Was: Re: ...hi everybody)
It may be just a general graphics accelerator -- probably the Radius QuickColor card. Sold to be used with the early Radius 24-bit cards in the Mac II-era machines. The ones prior to the PrecisionColor series, which (mostly) had onboard acceleration -- I think they were called the DirectColor series. The QuickColor board works (not surprisingly) with the QuickColor control panel -- probably earlier releases, although maybe later versions might work -- the same-named control panel was used with the Radius PrecisionColor, PrecisionColor Pro, Thunder IV series. I have a few versions, if you want them, email me offlist. Most of the Radius DirectColor boards only supported the Radius 2-page monitors, which have a funny (i.e. nonstandard) resolution, I think 1152 x 882, except for the DirectColor GX, which supported the Apple 13 RGB, NTSC/PAL. The QuickColor card had no external connectors, it accelerated the DirectColor card thru the Nubus -- bus mastering, I suppose. I don't know if it will master other cards that will play the submissive role, like the Apple 8*24. The acceleration services it provided were just speeding up 2D QuickDraw calls, but neither Photoshop nor 3D gaming benefit. At 21:18 -0700 on 08/08/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know what the following card is: Radius Risc Processor Board It's a Nubus card with no external connector. Could it be a card that accelerates graphics? Probably a PhotoShop accelerator. Should work with up to PhotoShop 3, maybe 4. System 7.5.3 or 7.5.5 tops. You'll need the PhotoShop plugin for the card. Unless it has ATT DSPs on it, which that particuar board doesn't, it's not a Photoshop accelerator. I've seen a photo of that card once before, although it's been a while and I don't think I saved it. That board predates the Thunder and Storm boards by about two or three years. -- the pickle -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Reluctant IIcx
Thanks to everyone who replied... Unfortunately I sold my old 650, upgraded to a 7100, so I don't have it to test the PS in anymore...Aside from logic board damage, I've also read that a click-click no boot can mean that the PS is being overloaded with too heavy a demand from something. I tried booting with the hard drive (a half-height 100 MB Conner) detached, thinking maybe that's it, but still the click-click. The book where I read this advice also suggested Nubus cards as the culprit for excess power draw...but this cx had only a mere Toby Card in it, which turned out to run just fine in my 8100... it's not like there was an 8*24GC in it or some bad boy like that that's known to overdraw Apple's recommended allotment. At 21:26 -0700 on 22/07/02, J.S. Garrison wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Judson) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Subject: Reluctant IIcx Date: Mon, Jul 22, 2002, 9:14 PM Found a IIcx on the street...when I press the power key on the keyboard, or the button on the back, it just goes click-click over over refuses to turn on. From what I've heard of other Macs, I would tend to suspect the power supply. Or is there something else involved here? [...] Thanks in advance, -- Over, Jutso More likely the motherboard. There's some parts there involved in firing up the power supply when you push that button in the back, or the keyboard button. Might or might not be the keyboard, but check that PSU in a IIci, 650, or 7100 if you have one around. They all used the same PSU. If that works, you know it's not the PSU, and is most likely the startup circuit on the mobo. Gamba has a schematic on his site that you might use to diagnose it. the pickle -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: os 7.1 monitor resolution problem, it's a tough one UPDATE
Mac Rehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So get this... I started up the LC connected to my other 17monitor with which it reads as 640x480. While still on, I unplug the 17 and plug in the 15 with which has been the problem. It now displays 640x480 on the 15, Yay, but the screen still is not syncing, boo. Does this mean that the refresh rate that the LCII sends is not displayable by the 15? Could this be a marriage that was just not meant to be? Or does somebody have some magic words to tell me that will unite this couple in wedded bliss? 2 thoughts: Have you tested the 15 with other Macs? I wonder if the 15 has a separate mode that's switchable (like the switch on back of my NEC) between sync-on-green non-green? Dunno about those Sony tubes, never had 1; it's worth checking out your documentation at this point, I guess. Or: maybe the LCII needs the LC Monitors extension in order to know what it's supposed to display. It should be installable from your system disks -- no wait, I think that's Sys. 7 Pro (7.1.1) later...or is it 7.5?...not sure how the extension would sit in a plain 7.1 system. If you see a file in the Preferences folder of the System Folder called Display Preferences, trash it see what happens. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Netiquette point 14 -- Dumb question
For example, posting MACS SUCK AND MAC USERS ARE A$$HOLES! to seattle.users.macintosh would be a definite troll. The term comes from fishing where you pilot a boat really slowly, dragging bait on a hook. That's trawling. As I understood it when I 1st got on the net the word trolling was used because you're trying to pose as a troll. You eat up anyone who is stupid enough to cross your bridge (take the bait). As the old saying goes -- Don't engage in a battle of wits with half-wits; you have to lower yourself to their level they have lots more experience down there. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Netiquette point 14 -- Dumb question
At 09:11 -0500 on 19/09/01, Bill Judson wrote: For example, posting MACS SUCK AND MAC USERS ARE A$$HOLES! to seattle.users.macintosh would be a definite troll. The term comes from fishing where you pilot a boat really slowly, dragging bait on a hook. That's trawling. As I understood it when I 1st got on the net the word Not sure what trawling is but I know there are lotsa trolling motors at sporting goods stores for that exact purpose... Not a sport fisherman myself. Trolling is basically trying to get flamed or trying to start flamewars with loaded posts, generally NOT flames themselves. As the old saying goes -- Don't engage in a battle of wits with half-wits; you have to lower yourself to their level they have lots more experience down there. Ah, what a great saying. Dan Knight had one in his sig for a while, IIRC, That's probably where I got it, I think! that said something similar, along the lines of Don't argue with stupid people. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. I forget who it was attributed to. p -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Disk Express II 2.o
Disk Express II 2.0 is a somewhat dated (1996) disk optimizer and checking program. It features the ability to track the usage of files and arrange them so that the HD is more efficient. -- - Bob Poland Anybody know how late a system it's safe to run this thing under? (I.e., does it work under Sys. 8 up?) -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi video and such
Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, while dealing with another question: I must admit that the 50Mhz PowerCache in a IIci seems to play Quicktime video better than one with the 66Mhz Turbo 601, not that either one plays it very well. ;) I have noticed that QT movies don't seem to play as well (i.e. more drop-outs, etc.) on my Quadra 650 in PPC mode (w/ 66 Mhz Apple Upgrade Card), or even on my 7200/90, than on the Quadra in 68k mode. Sorrenson codec files being an exception -- but not by much! Any explanation? I haven't tried QT 4 later, tho' -- put off by its dorky interface, just too lazy as well to install it. Could it be that earlier versions don't have all the native code in there that they might have? (BTW I did _not_ throw away the QT Power Plug with these earlier versions.) -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCII acquisition
Scsi hard drive usually have a large 50 pin plug on the end.. if you know what an ide hard drive connector looks like, then you will know whether it is scsi or not.. the vram slot on the lcII is the big blue one. the LCII has a place for an FPU (68882) with solder pads.. you can solder a socket into one, which Is what I have done.. but you also need the fpu, which William Ahearn kindly sent me, but i am unsure whether he has another one, or whether you are able to solder a 68 pin socket on to the motherboard. trusy me, its not something you want to do every decade, or century :) Etienne ...Yeah, a *much* easier way to upgrade an LCII with an FPU is to put an ethernet card (whether you need networking or not) in it -- most of them had FPU sockets just for that reason. You didn't have to be networked to get the benefit of the FPU. I had an FPU once, but I've since sold it, having moved on to bigger newer (to me, anyway) machines. An FPU is not the 1st thing I would look to in upgrading it, unless you really need it for some reason (3-D graphics? -- not that I'm laughing...I actually played with StrataVision 3D for a while in the mid-90s on an FPU'ed LCII -- played is the operative word here: needless to say, word processing was the main use). But, since memory is maxed out so fast on these critters, accelerator cards are rare still for some reason still quite expensive, It is something to think of. Supposedly browsers can decode JPEGs faster with an FPU. MS Excell also calculates its spreadsheets faster. I also have a IIfx -- night day, speedwise. Save the FPU work for *that*7.0.1 on a IIfx compares favorably, I'd bet, with 9.1 on a G3...it seems the faster thay get, the bigger the software bloats up to slow 'em down...besides doing flashy new things like mp3s, which require the CPU power, I wonder if anybody has actually *seen* an increase in their day-to-day productivity convenience with computing in the last decade? -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: the power of a vintage laserwriter
Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the IIg does autoswitching. It's got a SCSI port to add a HD for font storage. AFAIK, you have to tell it whether the serial port is for LocalTalk or direct serial. It can emulate an HP LaserWriter for printing from a Windows box. Well, font storage can be handled by the computer. No need to bother about that with a seperate hard disk. I guess it will speed things up a bit, but it doesn't seem very practical. Is that direct serial you are talking about a pc only thing... I guess I don't have to worry much about that since I will only be using macs on my home network, and macs will only print via appletalk on this laserwriter. Marten -- BTW I didn't know you could have a direct serial connection with a LW...that's only for Wintel, right? I have question about serial cables: in the few stores that still carry Old World Mac cables adaptors, I see a number of cables marked for serial *or* AppleTalk connections. I thought the twain could never meet -- that AppleTalk needed special (or at least different) wiring of the pinouts. Also, what's the difference between an AppleTalk a null modem cable? Both can hook up 2 Macs, tho' with different protocols, I suppose. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Silverlining Lite SQ?
I don't know about you all out there, but I have been using SyQuest Utilities 4.0.1 for 3 years, with EZ Flyer SyJet disks, on an LCII, a Q650, a 7200, with Sys. 7.1, 7.5.3, 7.5.5, 8.1, it's worked out pretty well for me -- I mean about as well as using other drivers. ...Of course there is that 1 disk recently whose directory that got totally hosed (when I used the long verify option -- though that disk seemed to be developing a lot of other problems before that), but that also happened to me (not under exactly the same circumstances) early on with the special edition Silverlining Lite that used to ship on the SQs, I decided to use the Utilities ever since. ...I've also had several SQ disks go bad on me (bad sectors), but that seems to be a hardware issue...they all go bad sooner or later...YMMV... Bad blocks, bad blocks, watcha gonna do when they come for you -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi speedup tip (Was: NFS)
Regarding the IIsi Disk Cache speed-up, I paraphrase from Mac Power Mac Secrets by David Pogue Joseph Schorr. The IIsi uses it's 1 MB on-board RAM both for video RAM and cache RAM. Any that's left over is used by your programs, but it's much slower than using the SIMM RAM especially if you are using colors on your monitor so the trick is to cache all of the on-board RAM and force the programs to use the SIMMs, hence setting the Disk Cache to 768k. They don't mention this working with any other Macs. The IIci also can use this tip (if you have 1 MB in bank A are using the on-board video.) -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Photoshop 2.5 to 2.5.1
Greetings, all... Would someone please tell me the difference between PS 2.5 and 2.5.1? I want to use 2.5 in some vintage Macs but don't know what the .1 update enabled and whether that would even have a bearing on what I want to do. I don't have the updater and haven't found any decent info on it. TIA, Bob F Funny coincidence how the subject of old video drivers cam up earlier (not sure if it was on this list, but it was 1 of the LEM lists), this just happened to be on a link that someone suggested (it's no longer at adobe.com -- they're just not interested in supporting anything before Pshop 4): http://www.knight-tech.net/DiskImages/Radius/AdobePhotoshopUpdater.smi.hqx BTW, 2.5.1 was the 1st Pshop to be PPC-native (via a plug-in), if you're using a PPC, it's at: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/mac/info-mac/gst/grf/pshp/photoshop-ppc-plugin.hqx -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Free Sun monitor
I wrote earlier on the PCI list ( I'm posting it on the Swap list, the other lists that I brought the problem to) about the Sun 19 monitor (#365-1013) I found: Apparently it has an early type of VGA port, having only 9 pins (actually 6, but spaces for 9). Either that or it's a TTL monitor -- CGA (unlikely from Sun) or EGA, in which case I'm screwed. Presumably (considering its age, c. 1988) it was a companion to a 386I, Sun's less-than-spectacularly successful attempt to break into the Intel (not yet Wintel then) box market, so might 1 not expect it to handle at least some standard PC resolutions, like 1024x768 or 1280x1024? On further research -- I am screwed (tho' not of any money, fortunately -- always look on the Bright Side of Life) I am led to believe that it will not work with a Mac. The 386i's i/o architecture was different than a PC (in addition to their running Sun's version of Unix), even if I could find an adaptor or card that can do TTL, the monitor has a fixed resolution of 1152 x 900! It's also monochrome, (I guess in Sunspeak that means black white, 1-bit, 2-color...as opposed to Applespeak (as in the 12 Monochrome Monitor). Not to diss bw monitors, they're very sharp easy on the eyes -- I had an Apple 12 Mono, but the picture was getting twisted around somehow I didn't want to mess with adjusting the yoke, so I gave it away. I regret that now. I guess anybody who wants this baby for whatever purpose -- any Sun worshippers out there? -- can have it, too. PICKUP ONLY (believe me, you don't want to pay for shipping on this one!) No guarantees, since I can't tell if it will get a picture or not, but it does seem to power up: I can see the CRT neck light up when I turn it on. In northeastern Illinois area, U.S.A. Contact me offlist for directions. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Sun monitor
Terry Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We _really_ need to know the exact Sun model number. It's the 365- number. Terry The critical thing to find out 1st (besides: does it work?) is what sort of resolution scan rate it will support. After closer examination of the label, a Google search that brought up some UK sites that have inventories of Sun stuff, I've concluded that it's most likely the 365-1013 Sun 19 Monochrome monitor CRT with OCLI Philips M19P114A/6119 (Per http://www.exquip.com/sun/monitors.chtml) (Anybody know what OCLI means?) Everything else is either not a Philips tube, not monochrome, or not 19. I'm back to Sun's site -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Sun monitor
Thanks to all who replied. I realized that actually the # M19P 114A/6124 is the Philips OEM #. The Sun model # is something like 365-1016-01. Could be -1075- or -1078- or something. The critical thing to find out 1st (besides: does it work?) is what sort of resolution scan rate it will support. Sun.com was no help -- all they want to do is sell you new stuff. But I will look there more carefully, if I can. Monitorworld doesn't seem to know that model #, if indeed I got it right (the label was rather scratched.) I do know that it is grayscale (I can't see any color rasters when I look real close at the screen), that the back has a 9-pin port. Is this a 13W3? It doesn't have all the pins in it. If I were an expert on Sun systems, I could probably tell what sort of resolutions it supports from which sense pins are present. If I'm lucky, it will turn out to be an (early?) multi-scan. But since it's from circa 1988 (as per the label), I won't lay any bets on it. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?
Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find old pentiums on the side of the road, no cash needed, all work. Still to find any mac's, found a Apple IIe and thought my self very lucky. :) (some classic gaming there) Also the Classic II with the checkered screen [...] In in a Midwestern (US) university town, the opposite seems to be the case -- I've collected quite a number of abandonned/handmedown Macs. but until recently the only PCs I've seen junked have been 286s or less. I've uaually turned aside from taking them, but a few weeks ago, on my daily walk through the neighborhood I saw a PII/166 in an alley close to the street (too close, I guess), thought maybe this is the moment to get into the Dark Side (linux more likely, if I can wing it...), but when I came back to the spot with my car (it was a tower system, with monitor) it was gone. Probably didn't work anyway, being so relatively new Of course, being known as the local Mac nut tends to help attract 'em one's way. So far, I own 1 of each: Performa 400 - bought (my 1st Mac) IIfx - dumped by neighbor Quadra 650 -bought (used) 7200/90 - bought (used) Other Mac stuff over the years: 2 SEs - dumped by friends or neighbors, 1 sold, 1 donated by me Classic - found in alley, sold Classic II - dumped by neighbor, sold LCII - dumped from relative's workplace, donated LC 520 -found, donated 3 ImageWriter IIs - found, 1 retained, 2 donated ImageWriter LQ - dumped by neighbor, given away as damaged (?) HP DeskWriter 550 - bought new, retained HP DeskWriter 560 - found, retained Epson Stylus 500 - found, retained Numerous keyboards mice plus Numerous PC Monitors, mostly donated or given for recycling when non-functional or only 60Hz VGA (but I did retain 1 great NEC 15 in.) 1 PS/2 keyboard, given away PC (but Mac'able) SyJet drive, dumped by friend, retained 2 CD-ROM drives, given away -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: What does DC rating mean?
Many thanks to all those who replied to my posts. The Practical Peripherals 14,4 modem has no indications of the polarity on its side, although it does state the voltage amps. Judging from web searches, Practical Peripherals is long gone as an independent company. Does anyone know who, if anybody, bought them up? Maybe they have a description of the polarity for that model at their site. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
