Re: LaserWriter IIf
On 12-nov-04, at 16:01, Thomas Burns wrote: Does anyone know anything about the LaserWriter IIf? I've got it hooked up to a PC running windows 2k. I'm getting several problems with it. I havent been able to print from it yet. 1. I'm occasionally getting all 4 lights blinking. I dont think there's a paper jam. 2. I'm getting occasional smeared test pages with alternating semi smeared test pages coming out. Looks like a toner problem, correct? 3. When all 4 lights aren't blinking I just get a continuous blinking green light when I try to print to it and nothing ever comes out. Did you have a look at the user and service manual? 4. If this printer is hooked up to a PC (I previous had it on a Win95 box about 7 years ago and it worked fine) can it be shared on home network? Yes it is a network printer pur sang. That is networking via appletalk but Windows talks apple too, to printers at least. 5. A related question to printers - can you refill an old StyleWriter II cartridge with one of those injectable ink syringes? I would think so. They are canon cartridges. Did you have a look at google: 'Canon BC01 refill set'? Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIci
On 4-nov-04, at 14:24, Ian Nixon wrote: Hi, I did find out which OS it was - it was Finder 6.1.7, and System 6.0.7. The other disks did install 7.0, so I don't think I have to worry for now... Ian Worry? About 6.07? 7.0 will give you far more to worry about, It is better to upgrade to 7.1 or 6.08. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Change of List Nanny
On 30-apr-04, at 21:35, Mark Benson wrote: On Apr 30, 2004, at 07:11 pm, Darren wrote: Mark Benson wrote: Just to inform you i have relieved Marten van de Kraats as the list nanny. Any queries/reports/suggestions/complaints etc. should be directed to me in future Remember folks, a friendly list is a happy list. Good to have you back, I trust Marten is still with us, he's done a excellent job. Marten says he's going away for a week or so on holiday and i offered to deputize then he said it'd probably be better for him to hand over permanently so i took up the reigns. I hope he does stick around - his contributions are invaluable to Vintage Mac users. I'm pretty sure he just wants a break from reading everything on here and keeping tabs on us all :-) Next week I am going away on holilday for two weeks. To France. Invaluable contributions? I can't remember having posted anything for the last six months. Reading everything? I did that in the beginning, but for the last half year I just browsed through the threads. There was no need to read everything. I am glad the list seems to have become more lively. It was pretty much dead for a while after the terrible episodes of early last year (or was that two years ago?) Anyhow, have fun! Greetings, Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Who Out There Knows A Way........
I'm holding my breath waiting for a nanny to step in and squash this thread It seems to me that the price of shipping a collectable vintage mac is pretty much on topic. I myself always aim at buying the larger stuff in towns close by so I can pick it up myself. But is some time ago that I bought a computer. Don't have the time anymore to fool around with them anymore. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Who Out There Knows A Way........
Full circle. And again, nannies, I apologize. Maybe this thread is getting a bit boring indeed. I think everything is said now. You managed to fill some digests anyway. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MS will not be suporting IE
This maybe olde news for you. But for me it was/is new news. Therefore not knowing it was old news I shared. And from what I seem to be hear MAC doesn't have a real functional browser out there. For vintage macs netscape 4.7.x and icab are pretty functional, but not really. In general older macs, wether they have 68030 or 68040 or ppc601 or ppc603 processors, do not render webpages fast enough to my taste. These machines are better suited for other tasks. For newer Macs there is actually quite a lot of choice. IE may not be supported anymore by MS for the time being, but the current 5.1 version is very much up to date. Safari is quite good, but not as good as mozilla or camino. There is also icab and opera. icab isn't too bad. Overall I think I like mozilla the best. In general I have the idea that web technology isn't developing as fast as five or four years ago. All the better, I like a bit of peace and quiet. We need to get to the situation of the automobile industry where it dosn'tmatter much what vehicle you purchase to drive around town or on the highway, and any brand is just good as the next, and differences can only be found in the details. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MS will not be suporting IE
Marcin Wichary wrote: Marten? you around. :) Yes I'm watching. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ADB Mice and/or Keyboards
I have them: - Apple Square mouse = $5 - Apple Tear drop mouse=$7 - Apple Keyboard=$7 You pay shipping from CA 95829. Thanks, Terry On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:05:53 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Need any ADB Mice and/or Keyboards? Please, Take this off list or to the swap list. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card for IIfx
I didnt want to run any form of windows (maybe win 3.1 for kicks) mostly for dos just to see how it worked on the mac. The technology is old enough that I figure the cards could be found rather inexpensively. Somehow I think that running windows me or xp on a IIfx would be even more of kick! I understand that you can't go much further than 98 with a 486 card, but that would probably still be a bit more modern than 7.6.1 (the offical IIfx max) or are these systems comparable (I don't have much knowledge about the windows os)? Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi vs LCIII
What no-body has mentioned is that the IIsi can run OS 6.0.8L, which the LCIII cannot. And 6.06, 6.07 and 6.08 plain. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
He needs to have a chat with the sysadmin and find out if the switches and routers are the managed type, which can be configured over the ethernet cable using a Telnet program or if they're fancy ones with built in mini web servers, by using a web browser. There is where the various protocols can be enabled or disabled and some can be managed on a per-port basis to select the speed(s) each will work with. I will have a chat with myself about it.:-) The router can be accessed via the web, done that only once for installation. I will have another look at it. Dunno about the switch. Will have to take a look at it. Unless your network really needs such configurability (fer instance you have many 10 megabit NICs that simply refuse to work with anything faster in a hub, switch etc) it's best to stick with an unmanaged switch that blindly passes ALL data while routing it to the requested MAC address. Except for two older printers (one of which uses a localtalk to ethernet converter) and an older laptop all nics are 10/100. Most of the hubs are older 10 mbit because the newer 10/100 hubs caused a lot of problems. With the older 10 mbit hubs the network is stable. All computers access file server over IP and the printers over appletalk (planning to change that to IP too). All computers have access to the Internet via the router. The 10/100 hubs have been lying unused in a box for about 2 years now. Didn't really care about them because everything worked fine when I kept on using the older hubs. I plan to set up the newer hubs after changing the printer connections from Appletalk to IP, but I will wait until the last appletalk only printer has left the building. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Maybe in theory, but not in practice. The hubs in my office crash when someone transfers files from or to the fileserver over appletalk. The hubs can handle AFP over IP alright but as soon as appletalk turns up its head trouble starts. Only the printing over appletalk seems to work just fine. I've noticed that especially the newer hubs have trouble with AFP over Appletalk. Is it possibly a router or switch instead of a hub? A true hub won't (and can't) care about what type of traffic is being passed. There is one router, one switch and about 5 or 6 hubs. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
AppleTalk and AppleShare IP are in no way the same. Their only similarity is they are both for the Mac OS and made by Apple. AppleTalk is slower and uses older routines it is also very versatile and works over more than one medium (in other similar guises such as LocalTalk). AppleShare IP is a purely ethernet TCP/IP based protocol that is more up to date and complies with TCP/IP networking standards. Appletalk is a network protocol and not an application, while Appleshare IP is an application (server software to be precise) and not a protocol. The application Appleshare IP not only handles tcp/ip connections over ethernet, but also appletalk connections over ethernet. BTW it also supports tcp/ip and appletalk over localtalk. And all of this simultaniously if needed. Correct me if I am wrong. And while we are at it: in which way is the appletalk protocol more versatile than the the tcp/ip protocol? Maybe in recognizing hardware in the sense that it can see a printer on the network instead of having to be pointed towards it first? I've heard they used appletalk technology in the development of rendez vous (the automatic recognition of third party peripherals by Mac OS X). As for the Marten: I am not sure if a Mac 7200 crammed in a IIcx box is standard issue for this list, but that is a different issue altogether. It's a 7100 - which is the same form cactor as the Mac IIc, Q600 and Q650 - and it's as NuBus as it gets. What is more it also qualifies under the 'once removed' rule, as well as being an upgrade to a machine that this list caters for. It still says Macintosh IIcx on the case, afterall. To add tot hat it's running OS 8.1, which is an OS that should be supported on this list. And finally I'd like to add the 7100 board was not 'stuffed' anywhere - it was, through about 2 hours of hard work with a hacksaw and a set of files, integrated into an expertly adapted case. The PSU, speaker assy., reset/suspend buttons and original plastic drive bay all fitted *without* modification. So there :-P As I admitted in earlier mail: the 7100cx is a nubus mac and totally obsolete and therefore more or less within the scope of this list. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
AppleTalk is not an inferior protocol at all. It is designed for simplicity and convenience on a local area network, and does the job quite well. TCP/IP never matched the convenience of AppleTalk on a LAN until Apple recently introduced Rendevous. Modern servers and clients support AppleShare over IP, which provides the convenience of finding and logging into servers using AppleTalk, then actually transferring data using IP for higher throughput. I knew that there was some connection between rendez vous and appletallk... Of course you are absolutely right about appletalk being a lot more user friendly, in that it is superiour to tcp/ip. But it also has disadvantages, the main disadvantage being a lack of speed and the fact that modern hubs seem better at handling tcp/ip than appletalk. In a home office that does not matter much, but if you have to network some 25 clients and devices in an office building or department it is a pain in the ***. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Having updated several boxes (mac and pc) to yet another free release of mdk I'm having no trouble appletalking. Got what I paid for. :) As most of the macs covered by this list lack the ip address button in the chooser Im happy to say that its not required on this lan. Except for the original Mac II and the LC (both 68020 Macs) all the Macs supported by this list can connect to a file server via tcp/ip and are compatible with a version of the appleshare client software that puts the 'ip adress' button in the chooser. Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk The entire classic OS, if they dont support you why support them with 2 paid OS releases each year? They did not kill the classic os, it is still a part of their new OS and probably will remain so for years to come because there is nothing to gain from dropping the support, on the contrary. BTW It is one paid OS update each year. Still quite a lot.. .Must be the reason why Apple is the only pc manufacturer, apart from Dell, which isn't bleeding money. With no osX here I cant offer more advise than to double check your network settings. Its not a osX list after all. It is not, but connecting vintage macs to OS X macs is pretty much on topic, just like connecting vintage macs to linux boxes, windows 2000 fileservers etc. And I am pretty sure this list has more unix savvy people than all other lem lists combined. I am not sure if a Mac 7200 crammed in a IIcx box is standard issue for this list, but that is a different issue altogether. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
On the death of a IIfx
For anyone who wondered what the life expectancy is of IIfx without a fan, I have the answer: it is short. I have tried it with a modified IIfx (no hard disk (major heat producer), very lowend video card and enough holes to get rid of heat), it didn't work. The strain on the psu was just to much. It took the machine about 3 weeks to die. Vintage macs that can work without a fan are the LC, the LC II and the IIsi, as has been proofed by myself and other people. I am going to look for a IIsi now. Greetings, Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
What version is required to get the ip address button, I have no need for it and would like to point out that that Mark shouldn't either. Original where possible on my on topic macs. 3.8.x? I am not sure about the version. Someting like 3.7.x or 3.8.x... No one would cry over the loss of dell, mac heads would have to find another company to bash while the pc community rejoice, I guess that wont happen soon. It won't. Dell is one big sucess story, commercially anyway. Meanwhile, Apple really shouldn't turn a loss now, all things considered. Who said they were? They are doing pretty well. As I said, they are the only other (next to Dell) pc manufacturer actually earning money. I am not sure if a Mac 7200 crammed in a IIcx box is standard issue for this list, but that is a different issue altogether. 7100 rather than 7200, lets get the all important form factor right. Can't imagine why not, other upgrade paths are classed as on topic on other lists while bearing little in common with the list subject. The 7100 is vx factor and as such fits in a backwards god NO sorta way. Well it is a nubus mac and totally obsolete... That kind of fits the list requirement. Just wondered... There is a g3 upgrade for the 7100cx... What about running os x on that... Been done? Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Why should one want to use appletalk when running mac os 8.1 on the client machine? Appletalk is an inferior protocol that should be avoided when you have the alternative of IP. The only reason I am using it is because of my laserwriters being appletalk only and my personal server (fanless LC running AppleShare 3) also not being able to share via IP. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: On the death of a IIfx
Marten van de Kraats wrote: For anyone who wondered what the life expectancy is of IIfx without a fan, I have the answer: it is short. I have tried it with a modified IIfx (no hard disk (major heat producer), very lowend video card and enough holes to get rid of heat), it didn't work. The strain on the psu was just to much. It took the machine about 3 weeks to die. Vintage macs that can work without a fan are the LC, the LC II and the IIsi, as has been proofed by myself and other people. I am going to look for a IIsi now. PSU Marten? couldn't you just replace it or does that just bring you back to the fan noise again? Of course I can replace it. The IIfx is not really dead. They are very very hard to kill. -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Gray Scale SE30
on 10/28/03 9:46 PM, Michael Day at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HiI'm a lurker on this list. I have a Micron Xceed color cardit is NOT a gray-scale but it worked very nicely with a 15 Apple Multi-Scan monitor. I can't recall the resolution and I don't have a working SE/30 to test it in at the moment. Anybody have an idea what it may be worth these days?TIA Mikie Hundreds, Mikie. Hundreds.. I have two cards for the SE/30 to support an external color monitor and one for an external grayscale monitor. I bought the whole bunch for 5 euro some weeks ago. Seems I struck a good deal... I tested one of them and it worked. Maybe I should sell them on ebay or something because I don't think I will ever seriously use them. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC3 box - connecting it up
Hi Guys, I'm just starting into Mac world (I'm used to PCs, Windows and Linux). Welcome to the list. I have the base unit of an LC 3 (or is that LCIII) and power lead. Can anyone tell me the basics? Like: do I need a Mac versions of: - Screen - Keyboard - Mouse or can I use PC versions with the right cables? Considering the fact that these devices cost next to nothing secondhand I'd advise to get Mac versions. That seems to me the easiest way to get the thing running anyway. Can I connect the unit to an ethernet? Yes. There is a slot in the back for that. LC ethernet cards are pretty easy to find. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Odd 8.0/LC 475 behavior
I tried to boot an LC475 that I am setting up for acustomer from an OS 8.0 CD. I held down the 'C' key as normal and it crashed to: [Sad] [Mac] 000F 0001 Odd I thought. It was supposed to work on all 040 Macs. I rebooted assuming the hard disk (with 7.6) would boot the machine as normal, but got the same Sad Mac again. I decided to try Cmd-Opt-Shift-Del to skip booting the CD. This resulted in it booting normally into 8.0 FROM the CD. What gives??? Maybe the C key only works with Macs with internal cd-roms? My mac IIci and IIfx only boot from cd-rom with the Cmd-Opt-Shift-Del combination. Maybe it is the same for the lc475. Don't know about that sad mac thing though. -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC vs. LC 475
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 01:21 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: I, and others, have managed it from 6.0.8 to OS X (10.1.x). I have yet to repeat the trick with 10.2 sadly. It can be done. I have done it. E-Mail 1st thing in the morning - sorry. So it does work pre-8.0 to 10.2 then? Same procedure as with 10.1 is it? I haven't managed to get any of my 7.x machines to talk to my iMac or my G3. More or less. Details on Gamba's page or system 6 heaven. BTW for 68000, 68020 and system 7.0 or lower you need to turn on filesharing over appletalk in OS X. It is turned off by default. 68030 running system 7.1 or higher with OT and an update version of the Appleshare client can acces filesharing services over tcp/ip. The even weirder thing is my G3 and iMac (both on 10.2.8, soon to be 10.3) both have file sharing enabled, however my iMac shows up in 8.1 and my G3 doesn't. What gives? Maybe you should ask around on the OS X list (if there is one) or check you network connections. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII. Enet arrived. How to get software on a floppy.
I'm afraid that you are going to need your PC in order to make floppies to get the Mac going. I don't think he needs to do that. He just has to link his LC III to his ibook via athernet and then transfer the needed files for tcp/ip to his LC III. He can make an appletalk connection with the LCIII.. See Gamba's page on connecting a system 7.1 machine to an OS X machine over appletalk. I didn't think you could add OT to 7.1 Everybody just told me to use MacTCP. But OT let's you speak to a DHCP server, so this alone is useful. OT 1.1.2 will work just fine on a LCIII running 7.1. I guess you were using some other Mac. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII. Enet arrived. How to get software on a floppy.
OT 1.1.2 will work just fine on a LCIII running 7.1. I guess you were using some other Mac. Actually I never tried because: 1) Many people are so adamant that Classic networking was better than OT. They were wrong. Classic networking is only better if you have little ram to spare. 2) the only free version (from Apple) is 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 and these say: For best results, you should install Open Transport 1.1.1 over Open Transport 1.1 You should just install 1.1.1 (which is a free donwload) - For best results, you should install Open Transport 1.1.2 over Open Transport 1.1 or Open Transport 1.1.1 After installing 1.1.1, one should install 1.1.2. I don't have OT 1.1 :-( You need 1.1.1 So does it work to go from NO open transport to 1.1.2? No, you must install 1.1.1 first. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC vs. LC 475
I'm no expert on this, I think the only 68k Mac that can be brought forward to a PPC is the Quadra 800, and that takes saving the upper case, throwing out the rest and putting the upper case on a PM 8500. The back and the bottom will not work on a 8500. (I tried years ago, and bought the mobo and higher output power supply, but could not find the case bottom.) Ahum. There is a ppc update for the IIci. And I am pretty sure the 800 isn't the only quad that can be upgraded with a ppc processor. At Sys 7.1 and MS Works 2.1, I can boot the LC 16 MHz, and launch Works, much faster than my PM 7600/ G4 800MHz can even just boot. You would probably need to go to Word 5.1 for compatibility, and I do not know off-hand which OS is needed to support that, but it is probably much larger than 7.1. MS Word 5.1 runs just fine on system 6. I suspect MS Works 2.1 will run on even older systems. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC vs. LC 475
I, and others, have managed it from 6.0.8 to OS X (10.1.x). I have yet to repeat the trick with 10.2 sadly. It can be done. I have done it. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC vs. LC 475
I have just found two old LCs. I would like to rejuvenate them so that students and lab assistant can use them. In our environment we have already moved to OS X, airport etc..., however I believe these vintage Macs are worth a few bucks for upgrading them. So the idea is to upgrade the LC with the Sonnet PrestoPlus thing, but for the LC 475 (a.k.a. Quadra 605, Performa 475 or 476 ) there are no PPC upgrade still availabe. I wonder: what would be the advantage of a ppc upgrade in this case? I don't see how this would improve integration. Even after a ppc upgrade these vintage machine will still be to slow to compete with the OS X ready hardware or to run carbon software (if at all) . When it comes to integrating them together in one network, that is mostly a software thing. Appleshare client software that can do tcp/ip runs on any 68030 or higher Mac with system 7.1 installed. The LC's (68020) will need an upgrade to do that, but you can also do filesharing over appletalk version 58.1.4 and that can be done by any 68000 or higher Mac running system 6 or higher. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LW 4/600 pinter
I can't find the on/off switch. Boy do I feel silly. Can anyone help me? -- You don't need it. That model turns off itself automatically after usage as you might have noticed. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Apple 2 GS?
If you wanna discuss the Apple 2 you are advised to subscribe to the apple2list. There are probably more people there that can help you with that machine. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
ImageWriter I profile (concept) (was re: printers)
As promised: the profile of the ImageWriter I. It is of course just a concept. Feel free to comment. We are now in the process of developing a guideline for the profiles of all other (vintage) mac compatible printers we are going to write profiles on. ImageWriter I The ImageWriter I is more or less the very first Macintosh compatible printer. It was introduced shortly after the macintosh 128k and was able to print both graphics and characters. It is a heavy , solidly built matrix printer with a design that is consistent with the macintoshes of the era: the 128, the 512k and the Plus. A design that has a character of its own. The ImageWriter is considered to be among the most durable products Apple ever produced. If you ever run into one, there is a good chance it is still fully functional despite its age of almost 20 years. Weak points The ImageWriter I has several weak points. For starters it isn't networkable. The printouts aren't really great. I am not sure about other ImageWriter I's, but even in the highest quality mode mine produces characters that are a bit to thick and you can clearly see that they consist of small points (something that is less visible in the ImageWriter II and LQ). The draft mode produces rather worthless printouts with lots of double spacings. This improves wehen printing documents set in the monaco font. Another major weak point is the fact that the ImageWriter I cannot print in the background, not when using the classic Mac OS anyway. Strong Points The ImageWriter I, like most matrix printers, is pretty cheap in usage. Printing hundreds of pages will only set you back a few dollars/euro's, and printing becomes even cheaper when you reink the ribbon yourself. The ImageWriter I is also a very durable printer - a reliable workhorse that can print a whole day long without misfeeds or other troubles. Technical overview Processor: none PD language: QuickDraw Ports: serial ROM size: none RAM Slots: n/a Min-Max Ram: n/a Speed (pages per minute): depends on computer speed, but generally pretty slow Max dpi: 144 Introduced: 6/1/1984 Discontinued: 12/1/1985 Operating systems compatibility: Prodos, Linux, Mac OS (system 1-9.2.2/10.2 (with GimpPrint installed) Cartridges and Ribbons Despite its age ImageWriter I compatible ribbons are still begin produced, most notably by Pelikan (www.pelikanhardcopy.com). [other ribbon resellers: ?] Upgrades The ImageWriter I cannot be upgraded. Tips ??? Online resources Apple Specs page ??? -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: printers
Hey, I'm still in. I have a Personal LW, a LW 16/600, a Color Stylewriter 2400, a LW Select 300, and an Imagewriter I. Do you have a preference of which one I should do first? I'd imagine the 16/600, which is probably the most relevant to the greatest number of people (of the printers I own). -dustin I will produce a concept profile myself first of the Imagewriter I, so everybody gets the general idea of what we are looking for. If I have finished the piece I will post it to the list. If we agree about the build up of the profile we will make a list of who is going to do which printer(s). BTW Thanks all of you who volunteered so far. I hope we will be able to produce some nice webpages. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Star NL 10
Anyone know wether it is somehow possible to print to this thing (star nl 10 matrix printer) from a Mac running a macintosh system? Greetings, Marten van de Kraats -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re:
Anyway, my (list qualifying) LCIII cannot read the floppy. Neither will my other Mac, but I fear reprisal if I mention its model... That thing with the Quadra 650 was my mistake. I should not have jumped at it the way I did. Don't make such a fuss about it. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC II as a server?
An LC or an LCII makes a great little headless server. To get around the need for a monitor to boot, I made a small flat-bottomed U-shaped jumper out of a paperclip, just large enough to short pins #7 and #10 on the monitor connector. That makes it think a 640x480 display is attached. I don't know how ASCII-art will look on your system but it sorta looks like this: |___| I tried this but it I can't get it to work. Maybe I've got the wrong pins #7 and #10. Am I counting them the wrong way? Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC II as a server?
pin 7 and 10 work for me. Thanks, Bob. Now I can finally put my fanless LC to work as a server. Since sleeper puts the hard disk to snooze after only one minute it truly is a silent server that only awakens when it is called for duty. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Another toy
Since this evening I am the proud owner of an Apple ImageWriter I. It is a downright heavy piece of equipment and seems to have build to last. I got a set of cables that allows to hook it both to a 512k and Macs with the more standard modem and printer port. Just printed a letter to the tax man with it. I think I am going to enjoy this machine. It is hard to find information about it on the Web. Even Apple didn't know how many pages per minute it an print in draft mode (no info about that on the specs page), but it seems to print pretty fast that way, except for the fact that the result looks downright ugly in draft mode. Pretty much unusable actually. I think it is has something to do with the font because it also prints in a smaller font when printing in draft mode. The concept mode is pretty good. Best mode is about the same as concept but with a bit more ink. So far all prints have been made with a Plus without truetype support. Things might look a bit differently when printing from my IIci. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC II as a server?
What is sleeper? That is a control panel that allows you to have the hard disk set to sleep automatically. This way you can reduce heat, noise and energy usage. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
system 7.6.1 is flawless, and easy to maintain. Like you say, Norton of that era does a great job of keeping it up and running like a charm (and an occasional desktop rebuilding). That is exactly my problem. I don't find it normal that one needs to keep an OS a float with Norton. IN my office I have 20+ Macs and ever since we got past 7.x and 8.0 there was no need to run Norton anymore. They just work and crash only occassionaly. Compared with the systems that came before and after it, system 7.5 is pretty unstable. Mac OS 9.1 is rock solid, especially when run on G3's. I remember the system 7 era as an era of constant maintenance and almost daily crashes. I have always had a problem with the popular opinion that newest is always better. I can't imagine (and I will probably be flooded with outraged replies because I say this) trying to make a Mac take OS 9.2 or X that wasn't designed to run it. Why? Let it run on what it was made for. You will both be happier! I agree: the newest is not always the better, often old things are better. Just like system 6 in many ways was better than system 7. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new toy
The Quadra 650 certainly IS a part of this list. It's a 68k Mac in the ugly metal box whose motherboard is a GREAT replacement in a Quadra 700 a much prettier box. Discusssons about this ugly machine are acceptable according to the LEM page, but they are not the main focus of this list. -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: powerbook
Just curious. I am interested in a CHEAP Powerbook. I'd like color. I think I am most interested in a 540c, but I know lots of people like the 1400cs. I'm just curious as to what people on this list think is a good all around starter Powerbook. The main purpose would be entertainment, light internet use (maybe), and light word processing. Everything, even if only slightly, related to 68020 and 68030 desktop Macs is on topic for this list, but this is a bridge to far. I don't mind people asking the odd question about something not related to the general subject of this list, but then you should put the letters 'OT' in the subject heading. As for your question: the 1400's are pretty solid machines. I would go for the 1400c though as it contains the much needed level 2 cache. For light internet use it is sufficient. If you only need it for light word processing a powerbook 100 or a macintosh portable would be enough. The portable is one of the best word processing machines ever made because of its page wide screen and full scale and very comfortable keyboard. I only wonder: what is light word processing? And for that matter: what is heavy word processing? Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
new toy
I just picked up a Apple cd sc plus for only Euro 2.50. It looks pretty cool and looks nice with the IIci, the apple scanner one, the laserwriter IIg and my apple rgb monitor. Don't know if it works yet. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
broken apple cd sc plus
The apple cd sc plus I picked up today does not work. The tray won't pop out. The curious design makes it impossible to just pop in another cd player because head phone port and the cd eject button are not built into the cd but are put on a small separate board. To complicated for me to repair for now. Curious is the lack of a fan. It has just never been there. A metal sheet closes the air hole on the back side where th fan would normally (according to the service manual) have been. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broken apple cd sc plus
why not disconnect the second board and wire that direct to the new cdrom? that should be only 5 soldier points. 8 if you have a volume control You overestimate me, I am not much of a repair man. Anyway, one of these days I will bump into a working one. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new toy
What is the fastest CD-ROM unit that can be placed into a Quadra 650? Can a SCSI burner be placed in there? The Quadra is an off topic machine for this list. In theory the fastest scsi cd player you can find I guess. You can also put a cd burner in that off topic machine. I suppose both the fast cd player and the burner will ask more from the power supply than period cd rom players though... I am about to buy a Quadra 650 from a dealer, but he claims it comes with a manual-inject drive. I thought the Quadra 650's came with an auto-inject drive, at least that is what I have read on Usenet. A Quadra? Where is the fun in an ugly little quadra? You should get a IIci or a IIfx. :-) -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new toy
I'm not sure what the once removed rule means. Me neither. It is a strange rule. I suppose it means that discussions about 68040 are less off topic than discussions about powermacs or powerbooks but we still prefer people to go to the quadlist with those machines. I understand this list is a lot nicer than the quadlist but that is just the way things are. :-) Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
Of course it reeks of flipping Linux, it was ported to OSX. Like many things adopted by OSX, they're just ported from somewhere else. I may be wrong and you dont need X11 to run OpenOffice but I doubt it. I have once run OpenOffice just to have a peek. I needed X11 to do so. I can't find my way around a unix shell and I don't want to either. It works using eXodus, requiring 8mb of mac memory and OS7.x or above, the program, soffice in this case, opens in a window on the mac desktop like a normal mac app. Okay. I get the picture I would imagine you could do it with openoffice on your imac hooked to one of your other lowend macs. I have no 030 macs here at the moment or I'd be tempted to try. All you need is a rsh server on the unix-like box, a couple of other servers could be enabled to provided other or better functions across your local network. Can you nativly enable a rsh server under OSX? Can you make use of one with the X11 port? Would you know how to secure it to only the local network? It is probably all possible, but I am not really inclined to do it. It is nice to be able to run openoffice, but I do not want to actually use it. In my book it is not a very nice program, I don't like MS Office either. I prefer to keep things simple: WriteNow and Clarisworks 2. Be nice if some of you could work out that its not a us against them situation, cross-platform is a good, useful thing and expands your mac and how you use it. I agree with you. The Internet is the living proof of how enriching the unix (or to be more precise the openstep) world has been for both Mac and Windows. Cross platform technology is very important if we want to keep those vintage macs usefull. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
I've found my Turbo 601 upgraded IIci to be a much less twitchy computer than my Radius 81/110, which itself is far less troublesome than my 7300/200. Every time I do _anything_ to the 7300 I find myself having to do a clean OS reinstall. Had it going good then dropped in a USB 1.1 card and roached the System. The 7300 belongs to the generation of mac products I avoid. A colleague of mine has a 5500 black all-in-one powermac at home and he insists on keeping it along as his one and only computer because he likes the way it looks (tastes differ). It has been a continuing nightmare since it was purchased some five or six years ago. Things didn't improve when I added a g3 card because it was to slow to handle fancy websites. Every once in a while it refuses to recognize its startup disk and every few weeks Eudora decides to mess up the incoming mail folder beyond recognition. Etc. etc. etc. It has something to do with the generation. The older nubus macs and the newer Macs with G3's or G4's are a lot more trustworthy than the ones built in between. It's curious that the worst macs were made in the period Apple was bleeding money. The word 'performa' alone makes me sick. I remember tolerating the constant crashing of system 7.5.x because soon we would have copland... But copland never came of course. During the conception of 7.5.2 there were only six employees at Apple working on the operating system. Six people! I suppose the rest of the developers were waisting their time on technology that would never see the light of day. With Windows 95 around the corner. Talk about bad management. Now the OS development team at Apple has a MicroSoft division size working force of about 1000 developers which manages to keep ahead of competition pretty well. Quite an amazing turnaround. -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 24 bit addressing !@#$!?
I've just confirmed that my Classic II, running OS 6.0.8L, has a total memory of 10,240KB, the largest free block is 9,102KB, Finder uses 160KB, while the system uses 978KB. Does this elevate the Classic II from Road Apple status as a OS 6 machine? :-) In my book no Mac that can run system 6 is a road apple. Running system 6 neutralizes one of the most important weaknesses the LC II and the Classic II have: not being able to recognize more than 10 mb Ram. So if I could get OS 6.0.8L to run on my IIci, could I get it to recognize more than 8MB? Forget it. 6.08L probably won't install on it anyway. See gamba's system 6 page for ideas on how to deal with to much memory or setup a ram disk and make your mac fly. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
OpenOffice1.10 runs well so far on both the quad and the 7300, might have to ask Gregg about this source for apple 10/100 nics though. Well the bits I've tried have so far. :) Ah. OpenOffice. But that reeks of linux. Or what? Linux might run pretty well on those machines, contrary to the Mac OS. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
And to keep things on topic, I STILL run back to my accelerated IIci and Quadra 700 for that 68k feeling. I must be a 68k elitist since my 68k collection consists of a IIfx, 840av, and a 950/AWS. He he he. An accelerated IIci can be faster than a 840 av. One of those turbo 040 cards for the IIci makes it faster than the 840 av according to speedometer. Of course so does the turbo 601, but that may not count. BTW I to own a IIfx and 840av, but they are far to noisy. Of the two I like the IIfx the most. Nothing logical, just sentiments. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIfx sound card
That Mac has built-in sound. No card necessary. I was hoping for stereo sound, plus sound input would be nice so I can use the videospigot card I have in the corner. The built-in sound is stereo. Are you looking for something like this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2748356817category=25449 Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 24 bit addressing !@#$!?
Forget it. 6.08L probably won't install on it anyway. See gamba's system 6 page for ideas on how to deal with to much memory or setup a ram disk and make your mac fly. I don't know about the L but 6.0.8 should install on a IIci, or at least 6.0.7 will. Of course 6.0.8 will run on it, so will 6.07 and 6.0.5. 6.0.8L only installs on LCII, Classic II and powerbook 100. Once upon a time there was some software that would let you use up to 14Mb on a IIci and others of that vintage. It did it by snagging the space normally allocated to NuBus slots Anyone know anything about this? Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 24 bit addressing !@#$!?
Once upon a time there was some software that would let you use up to 14Mb on a IIci and others of that vintage. It did it by snagging the space normally allocated to NuBus slots Anyone know anything about this? Marten Forget I asked. He was of course talking about maxima. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
I have vintage macs as email servers, dns, and incoming fax machines. And they do it every bit as well as a G5 could, if not better. Now, the fact that I paid over $9,000 for my IIfx when it was brand new is another story... You still use a machine that you bought 14 years ago? cool! Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
One of the best things about the vintage and quadra macs is the fact they are still very useful, as OSX becomes more mature software is slowly drying up for the classic OS, I spend much more time in the internet archieve than I do on real sites now which I think is a real shame, the fact the archieve has a very small amount of sit files compared to hqx is also a limiting factor. Software has been drying up for the 68k long before OS X appeared, just like software for DOS dried up. What is your problem with .hqx files? Even my IIci running system 6.08 can handle those. People need to stand back and ask themselves do I really need to upgrade? No arguement there but you can't tell me the Mac is not on the same path now and has been for some time. The Mac has been on this path ever since its conception. The 8 Mhz 68000 was considered a fast processor when it came out. The next step, competing with the 286, was the Mac II. The upgrading fury has been a part of the Mac world ever since, just like it was part of the pc world. If you check the headers you'll see I mainly post from a 3 year old pc, there is no processor envy here although a cpu swap is almost due as I bearly meet the min requirements needed for new games and software now. It was the latest at one it and still does its job. Trouble with buying the latest and greatest is it doesn't last very long any more and costs a fortune, one month or 2 something is just around the corner, bigger and better. The new pc is 18 months away, with luck things will have settled on new standards to see me through another 5 years. Gamers have different needs altogether, you cannot compare them to the average user. The average user should be just fine with any computer that can handle java fast enough to have a satisfying webbrowsing experience. Most other applications like spreadsheets, word processors, databases and even drawing programs or phothoshop are very usable on old computers, as long as you avoid the latest versions. It will take another digital revolution like the Internet to make upgrading necessary for the average user. The new technologies people are getting into lately, mainly digital photography, can be handled by any pc or mac with pci slots or in built usb ports. That is any computer from the last 7 years. $2000 on parts is more than I'd pay, if its US$ its twice as much as what I'd build a system for, he should have a screamer for that kind of money. You couldn't talk him into the G5? If he is a fanatic pc user/gamer, he would feel lost with a G5, because he wouldn't be able to run the latest version of many games. G5's are meant for high end graphic designers that have invested way to much time and money in mac programs, fonts and applescripts to ever justify a switch to pc's. And lets not forget the people who do lowend professional movie-editing, they are more or less condemned to use a Mac. Besides if the kind of people that buy G5's would ever buy a pc to do the same things, they would end up with a HP or Dell that would cost about the same. These people do not build systems themselves or buy an al cheapo clone, they buy computers from A brands with a reputation to defend. I guess we are both happy with our 68k macs for what they can do and how well they still do it, I'm still finding new ways to use them and programs to run. Its just becoming harder. :( I use 68k macs because I just feel more at home with them. I am used to them. They same simple to troubleshoot, are dependable, and when one uses the modular Macs of the II-series that are the pride and joy, the king and queen of this list, very fast, pretty easy to repair and with a whole world of nubus cards to explore. Besides they are able to run a number of operating systems, ranging from system 6 to bsd and aux. I have an OS X machine. I use it for browsing the web and playing dvd's. I never used it for actual production. I hate the classic environment in which Quark needs to run and I don't like any of the word processors for OS X, although it is kind of cool to experiment with OpenOffice. I do my quark stuff on machines running OS 9 (the imac dv in my office and a powerbook g3 at home). I do most of my word processing and all of my database and spreadsheet stuff on my IIci, running simple old fashioned software that will work just as fine on a Mac Plus, only a tad slower. Software you don't need a manual for. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list
Re: vintage quality
Those older Macs..Satisfying, less filling and only HALF the calories. And these newer macs..Well? :( These newer macs? The Macs Apple produced since the first G3 (late 1997) have been pretty good. Much better than the average computer anyway. They are only a bit expensive. Every G3 powered Mac in my office is good for a couple of more years. That is mainly because I am sticking with mac os 9 as long as there is no large scale transition to Quark Xpress 6 going on in the market place. I don't like the Macs from the powerpc 601-604 era myself. And system 7.5-7.5.2 was a nightmare, things improved with 7.5.3 and 7.6.1, but I had to wait until 8.1/8.6 before the performance was really satisfying. 9.1 turned out to be the best classic mac os since 7.1. OS X is in a totally different league altogether, as system 6 of course :-) Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
It wasn't until the Mac decided to use more PC-oriented components that it's been REALLY problematic. There is nothing problematic about today's Macs. How much experience do you have with imacs, g3's, g4's, ibooks? Using pc-oriented components like ide and pci is not a bad thing, it is cheaper because the production volume is higher. Apple has been using the same simms and dimms and edo-rams as the rest pc industry ever since the mac was created and scsi is not at all uncommon for pc's to support. I own a bunch of old Macs. I have a 7300 here I'm emailing on. And I do lotsa things with it. Things I wouldn't on a PC. Because I hate the hassle of parallel ports, serial port doo doo with certain peripherals, USB that doesn't work right. The BIOS. Yeaaghh. IRQ settings. DMA. Sound cards that clash with USB mice. That is pretty accurate description of what is wrong with pc's alright. Even with XP MS didn't solve these problems. If you buy a standard pre configured pc like most people do, you're pretty save as long as you don't change anything from the inside. A good support staff helps to. Making something simple takes massive effort. We constantly fail to appreciate the work and ideas that have gone into these computers to make them simpler. Nice put. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: vintage quality
Marten van de Kraats wrote: It wasn't until the Mac decided to use more PC-oriented components that it's been REALLY problematic. I did not write that, Darren, and I don't agree with it either. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Free stuff up for grabs
Replies like this should be off list and please don't include the entire original message when replying. Leave only the info that is essential to your answer (which, as i said, should have be given off list in this case). Marten Hi Todd, This would be shipping in the USA only? Matt Von: Todd Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antworten an: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:35:46 -0500 An: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Free stuff up for grabs Hey to all, Well, I hit the jackpot recently with 3 boxes of random cables, bla ba bla -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
vintage quality
I don't use OCR programs often, but today I needed to OCR three pages. I used the imac 400 Mhz and the agfa snapscan I have at work. The OCR program I used was Omnipage pro 8.0. The result was a mess. A total mess. The text files omnipage pro 8.0 produced were totally worthless. I wondered what the problem was.. Maybe the scanner had a problem with the kind of paper the text was on. I didn't know. I took the text home to type it over by hand. At home I decided to give the OCR one more try. This time with my IIci running system 6, my black and white apple scanner and omnipage 3. To my surprise: It worked! The vintage computer, the vintage scanner and that vintage version of omnipage produced a piece of text that was very usable. Really remarkable Very surprising was also that IIci wasn't that much slower than the iMac in recognizing the text. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new pride and joy
How much did the upgrade cost? 19 euro Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Printer profiles/reviews
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip Here is a list of all apple printers ever made (the vast majority You left out the DeskWriters which were Mac versions of HP DeskJets. They will come in time. First concentrate on the apple branded ones. The list is already long enough. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Printer profiles/reviews
Sometime ago we talked about the necessity to have Apple printer profiles/reviews on the Web, and decided we should make them ourselves. Yesterday I heard that lowendmac would be very happy to host such profiles, so now it is time to start working. We have to decide who is going to write which profile/review, about which printer. It is strongly prefered to have people writing about printers they actually have owned or used a lot or (better still) serviced. Here is a list of all apple printers ever made (the vast majority (maybe all?) being compatible with vintage macs). Volunteers who want to write a profile/review about one or more of these printers can take their pick: Matrix printers Imagewriter I Imagewriter I (15 inch version) Imagewriter II Imagewriter LQ StyleWriters Apple Color Printer Portable Stylewriter StyleWriter Stylewriter II Stylewriter 1200 Color Stylewriter pro Color Stylewriter 1500 Color Stylewriter 2200 Color Stylewriter 2400 Color Stylewriter 2500 Color Stylewriter 4100 Color Stylewriter 4500 Color Stylewriter 6500 LaserWriter LaserWriter Plus LaserWriter IISC LaserWriter IINT LaserWriter IINTX LaserWriter IIf LaserWriter IIg LaserWriter Pro 600 LaserWriter Pro 630 Laserwriter Pro 810 LaserWriter 16/600 PS LaserWrtire 12/640 PS LaserWriter 8500 Color LaserWriter 12/600 PS Color LaserWriter 12/660 PS Personal LaserWriter SC Personal LaserWriter LS Personal LaserWriter NT Personal LaserWriter NTR Personal LaserWriter 300 Personal LaserWriter 320 LaserWriter Select 300 LaserWriter Select 310 LaserWriter Select 360 LaserWriter 4/600 -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
new pride and joy
Today my Daystar PowerCache arrived. It is the 50 Mhz version. I am really happy with it. At first speedometer didn't notice much change, but then I discovered I did need a driver (a control panel) after all. Now the cpu of my IIci is twice as fast. The FPU even more than that and the video is also a lot faster (I use internal video). The speed of System 6 with a 50 Mhz processor is incredible. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
cute new purchases
I am now the proud owner of a copy of Pina's Dead Mac Scrolls and a black and white apple scanner that still functions perfectly and works very well with system 6. I bought the scanner because I had to do a lot of black and white scanning some days ago. Of course I could have used my snapscan 52e too, but what is the fun in that? Anyway this way I could do the boring scanning while watching a dvd on the iMac. I also won bids on a daystar powercache for my IIci and an official copy of WriteNow 2, including the original manual. Waiting for the post man to deliver those two. Next on my list is an imagewriter. For some reason it seems rather cool to get one of these. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Im trying to install 6.0.7
6.0.8L was made to work with the Classic II and others. Those others being the LCII and the powerbook 100. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
omnipage
Someone around here has OmniPage, version 3 or lower? It is OCR software. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cute new purchases
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also won bids on a daystar powercache for my IIci What Mhz? I hope you got at least a 40Mhz with the FPU chip too. The speed is a mystery. I only know it was used to speed up a IIci, so it should be faster than 25 Mhz. Jugding from the picture it has a fpu. Next on my list is an imagewriter. For some reason it seems rather cool to get one of these. Get one with the AppleTalk card in it and you can easily network it. Might even be able to print in glorious dot matrix from your iMac. ;) In that case I will have to install gimp and ghostscript first. I just might give it a try. Anyway. First I have to find one and that will take some patience... BTW Anyone know wether the imagewriter I and II are comparible in noise or is one of them a bit less noisier? Greeting, Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci L2 cache, and other questions!
Since I have an empty PDS, are/where/is there any interesting alternatives to fill it with (that would still be compatible with OS 6)? The DayStar Turbo 030 Universal Power Cache manual (Version 2.0A) does not mention System 6, but the card will work with A/UX. They were made in 25, 33, 40 and 50Mhz speeds. Of course 25Mhz would be pointless in a IIci (but quite a bump for an LC or LC II) and 33Mhz is hardly any faster. 40Mhz puts it up there into IIfx territory and 50Mhz is just ripping along. The DayStar Turbo is system 6 compatible. Sonnet made an 040 card that seems to be System 6 compatable. Someone posted a URL to a page on the Sonnet site about it. We think it is compatible with system 6, no one has tried it as of yet. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LaserWriter Select 310 problems
All the printer info already exists in the AppleSpec database. http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.html The old legacy stuff that we're interested in is at http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.legacy/index.html We are familiar with these pages. The idea for reviews of the apple printers came up because these pages aren't providing enough information. Vaughan UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. Your signature is way too long. -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LaserWriter Select 310 problems
On 7/29/03 9:52 PM, Bryan Kattwinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is definitely a weird model, a postscript printer that works by direct serial connection (no localtalk). We put one on an 8600 running 8.6 and it seemed to be ok there, but I don't recall printing from SimpleText. This surprises me for sure. I own one of these printers, and can only get it to work on my Macs running system 8.1 or earlier. I read (after I bought the printer) that the driver was rather unusual, and Apple decided not to support it (even though they created it) with system 8.5 and above. The funny thing is Window DID continue to support it with drivers! Strange, huh? Anyway, if you got it to run under system 8.6, great! How did you do it? How odd. I thought it would be a normal network printer, considering it did postscript according to apple's specifications page. What maddness drove them to build that thing? LEM has all these nice pages about all the different Macintosh models ever build. We need something like that for Apple printers too, so we can brand this one a road apple. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LaserWriter Select 310 problems
How odd. I thought it would be a normal network printer, considering it did postscript according to apple's specifications page. What maddness drove them to build that thing? LEM has all these nice pages about all the different Macintosh models ever build. We need something like that for Apple printers too, so we can brand this one a road apple. Marten I sure wish someone had point out its oddities to me before I had bought it! That is a great idea! Chuck Maybe we should just do it. Any volunteers? I suppose we could best offer the content to Lowend Mac. I'll ask Dan what he thinks about it. I guess we must limit ourselves to the Apple printers because otherwise there would come no end to the amount of reviews we should have to write. Any ideas? Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LaserWriter Select 310 problems
Maybe we should just do it. Any volunteers? I suppose we could best offer the content to Lowend Mac. I'll ask Dan what he thinks about it. I guess we must limit ourselves to the Apple printers because otherwise there would come no end to the amount of reviews we should have to write. Any ideas? Marten I'm in. I own about a half dozen Apple printers, and wouldn't mind doing a little writing. It'd keep me off the streets! -dustin I have sent Dan an email about it. If he is interested I'll try and coordinate things. If he isn't interested, I will have no difficulty finding us some other well visited site :-) Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LaserWriter Select 310 problems
I think we need to delegate the writing of reviews to those people who actually own or have serviced the printers. You are right about that. I can help with the layout and if there is a site available that won't blast us with add ware or spy ware that we can use then that is where it should be. I think once it is launched we should put it's url in a tag-line on the list's email (with their permission). I think stuff like this should be published on lowendmac, the owner of this list. If we are truly creative we could also add reviews and specs on the various cards available for the older macs and apple computers... A great idea. There are some card reviews and specs already on Lowend Mac but it is only the tip of the iceberg. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Fwd: [6] Re: SixBrowser
For all you people interested in the development of a webbrowser for system 6 (and who isn't?): This message was posted on the system 6 list, but because there are also a lot of system sixxers on the compact mac and vintage mac lists I have forwarded it. It's from a German developer wondering wether anyone is interested in: a. using a system 6 browser b. helping out with the developmen of a system 6 browser. Let's just hope this time somebody actually gets the job done... I wrote a message on the board at www.jagshouse.com last week about this very topic. Somehow I got an itch to take on exactly this project -- a slightly modern web browser running under System 6. I asked if anyone was interested in the project, and I got a couple replies. And now this message on this list. Seems like there's at least a little interest. Development environments: so far the choices seem to be THINK Pascal -- www.think-pascal.com -- and Mops -- www.powermops.org -- which are both free. THINK Pascal is what I used to learn Pascal and Mac programming back in 1991. The development environment is relatively nice, with a debugger and pretty-printer. Mac OS was originally written in terms of Pascal interfaces, so there's plenty of apps that were written in Pascal, some of which have made their source code available -- like John Norstad's NewsWatcher. Mops I just found, although it's been around almost as long as the Mac. It's not Pascal; rather, it's a funky language called Forth. I've read through the tutorial and I'm not entirely turned off by the language. Also, they have an actually quite amazing little object-oriented framework built up for encapsulating the Mac interface. It may be a nice way to write a Mac app. I've been glancing through the NewsWatcher source, and also some networking sample code released by Peter N. Lewis, of Anarchie / Interarchy fame. There's also MacTCP sample code from Apple in the form of a little Ping application. All in all, writing MacTCP-compatible code seems to be doable. More problematic would be the HTML renderer as far as I'm concerned. Probably makes little sense reinventing wheels, but I'm not sure exactly how to get open-source HTML renderers like KHTML (basis of Safari) or Mozilla (basis of Netscape 6 7 and Camino) to play with either Pascal or Mops. (They're no doubt written in C.) I have old versions of CodeWarrior, which can handle C code, so perhaps it will be possible to make a code library out of the HTML renderer such that it can be called from an application written in Pascal or Mops. For my information, any other people interested in having a System 6 web browser? Anybody interested in helping to create such a product? -Ryan On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:31:41 -0500, Wade Rackley said: Any headway on the browser project? Someone had agreed to look at getting the source code for our only browser choice in order to update and stabilize it a bit. I am willing to pay for a SixBrowser. I bet a few others would be too. (And yes, I am aware how time-consuming it can be to program for the System Six environment. But a good (not great, just usable) graphical browser is all that Six lacks to make it viable for more general use. I bet that a more modern version of Samba would be really life-giving to LOTS of older Macs that are shelved, dusty, and forgotten. Has anyone taken up the cause? Or has it become a dead issue? So, would a new, well coded browser run as quickly as everything else in System Six? Would it make my SE/30 run faster on the Internet as a Six Box than when I use iCab with 7.1? It is just soo slow in 7.1 and the amazing speed of Six makes me think of pages that load a bit quicker with fewer hangs etc. Am I a fool? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: turbo and powercache
Thanks for the very comprehensive explanation. I am of course in the market for a faster 030 or a 040 on my IIci, because the ppc 601 won't run system 6. I'm trying to find something on ebay. Anyone here have such an accelerator for sale? Marten Daystar's main 68k accelerator/upgrade products were: [snip] -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: browser and email
can anyone suggest a faster browser and a faster email program for running on a lc520 running system 7.5.5. for those who dont know, the lc520 is powered by an 030. i am running netscape 3 (not gold) and it is like molasis, mostly due to the size of the program. Switch to icab (www.icab.de) for web and eudora for mail, and do what Gregg said: speed up the computer. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci and Cable Modem?
Yes, I have installed Open Transport 1.1.2 over OT 1.1.1, as well as finally finding the driver for my Ethernet card - thanks to another subscriber who supplied me the information offlist. Now, I suppose all I have to do is get my wife to shut down the PowerBook so that I can turn everything off, reset the router and cable modem and reboot everything in order to see if the Ethernet card is recognized by the router! Wish me luck when that time comes. A reset? I think the router normally should recognize the ethernet connection right away. What seems to be the problem? BTW, just in case the Ethernet card is defective, for whatever reason, what are some recommendations for a good name-brand Nubus Ethernet card? Just want to be prepared for whatever contingency I may have to plan for. Farallon and asante are well known brands. But you have to make very sure first the ethernet card really doesn't work. These things normally work, and if it doesn't work there might be some other problem (auto sensing?) that prevents the card from working. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LaserWriter Select 310 problems.
Is this a Vintage list question? The printer is on topic, the computer not. Oh well . I just picked up one of these printers. Looks smart, came with s/w (version 1.0) and the users guide. So I tried to use it with my Performa 6360 under OS 9.1 (yes, this is not very vintage but its the model I have at work at the moment). I hooked it to the modem port (com slot modem has been removed). It works - in a fashion. I printed the desktop. I printed a .jpg picture (took ages!!) BUT I can't get the thing to print a SimpleText document. I keep getting out of memory messages. So I had it open and added a 4Mbyte SIMM (maxing it out at 5.5Mbyte!!). Still no good. Am I doing something wrong? Is it broke or just a piece of cr*p? I have a LW IIg at home that even prints from my PB G4 under OSX (via ethernet). Can I use a bigger SIMM (like 16Mbyte)? The reason why the select 310 won't work with an unmodified OS X is because it only talks postscript level 1, the Laserwrite IIg - my favourite printer, a beast that dates from the days of the IIci and the IIfx but still is supported by modern operating systems - talks postscript level 2 and can therefore work with OS X. Although some years older, the IIg is faster than the select 310. The IIg has a 25 Mhz 68030, the select 310 a 7.25 Mhz AMD . It also can hold a lot more memory. The select 310 should be compatible with any OS from 6 to 9.2. As to why you're having this problem: seems like a memory problem on your performa (which is an off topic machine by the way!). It is not very suprising that you problems with that machine considering you are running 9.1 on that slow beast. Maybe you could disable the desktop printing software and try print the old fashioned way. Desktop printing eats memory. Of course it would be best to try the printer on a IIci or IIfx and come back to us when you are still having these problems. Would I have better luck with an OS 6 Mac? One will always have better luck with an OS 6 Mac :-) System 6 prints a helluva lot faster than OS X. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
turbo and powercache
I am more of a software than a hardware guy, so I don't know much about accelerators. I have never used one so far, but would like to equip my IIci with one. Not because I really need it, but because it seems fun. I noticed daystar made two types: powercache and turbo. I suppose the powercache goes into the cache slot and the turbo in the pds. What are the other differences? Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LaserWriter Select 310 problems.
I'm kinda-sorta with you on the system 6 thing. Now I have my OSX PB G4 12 I'm losing interest in my older Macs - especially the 'middle years' ones. That's what the IIci is about. I have been playing with a IIsi and OS 6.0.8 but I'm fed up with the single slot. I need ethernet and a graphics card. What are the 'middle years' ones? The II's, the Quads or the pre-g3 powermacs? Personally I am only interested in machines running either X or six. One question. did Adobe ever make a version of their reader that would work with OS 6? At my work, most documents are passed around as .pdf files, so that would be a neato way to get around the apple v's everyone else problem that OS 6 gives. Acrobat reader 1.0 is system 6 compatible but you'll be running into serious compatiblity problems using that one. You can create pdf's with system 6 using some piece of shareware. If you save pdf's as postscript docs (that can be done with OS X), you can print the .ps docs with system 6 using the laserwriter utility. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci and Cable Modem?
Since I have one more port available on the router, I am wondering if it is possible to connect my IIci to high-speed Internet service, as well. The IIci is, as of now, configured with System 7.1.1, 128MB of RAM and has an Excellan EtherPort II card installed (assuming I can find a driver to get it working). Bottom line: If this is even possible, what are the minimum requirements? I have every version of the Mac OS from 6.08 on up, so that in itself will pose no problem. The only other problems I see are getting the Ethernet card operational and the system configured properly. You can do this with every Mac OS from 6.08 on up. Just install the ethernet driver and tcp software (mactcp or open transport) and then it is a matter of some small configurations. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[WARNING} Re: fed up rant was Re: Notes from the List Mom
Alex and Dan are suspended for the next 48 hours. They will not be able to post during that time. This thread was officially closed, they ignored my warning. Now they must face the consequences. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[WARNING} Re: fed up rant was Re: Notes from the List Mom
Supposedly these three guys are right and the list mom made a mistake (he too is human after all), they are making it increasingly difficult for me to do something for her. That's what I meant when I wrote about not going into open warfare. BTW This IrixX guy has also been suspended. Did that yesterday already. Not sure how long I am gonna have him suspended. Might be a bit longer than 48 hours. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: presto 040
According to: http://www.sonnettech.com/downloads/proc_upgrds_sw.html#p040 it goes down to only 7.1. Gamba OTOH this http://www.sonnettech.com/support/read_me/presto_read_me.html mentions using it with 6.0.8. Thanks, this means it might work after all. Cool. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[WARNING} Re: fed up rant was Re: Notes from the List Mom
Alex and Dan are suspended for the next 48 hours. I meant of course Alex and Darren. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Zip dive on SE-30
I have an SE 30 with 4 MB of RAM running system 7.1. Is there a way to connect my external SCSI Zip drive to it. There is no driver below system 7.5 on the Iomega site. There are older drivers around on the web. You can find one here: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/System6_Downloads/iomega.sea.hqx Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
presto 040
Anyone know wether the sonnet presto 040 upgrade for the IIci works with system 6? Greetings, Marten van de Kraats -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[WARNING] Re: fed up rant was Re: Notes from the List Mom
This thread is now officially closed. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Dear list members
Dear list members, If you have problems about the way these lists are managed, please contact me off list, do not begin sending numerous messages to the list. Most list members don't want to be bothered with personal vendetta's or problems, they just want to read about vintage macs. BTW Off list diplomacy will almost always be more helpful for your cause than open warfare. In open warfare causes mostly get lost because prestige en pride become the more important issues. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: fed up rant was Re: Notes from the List Mom
i'm sorry, but while i do appreciate the time you and our list nanny put in to maintaining these lists, i'm getting really fed up at the childishness and unneccessarily heavy handed discipline. even a parent knows that one must let go and trust a little for a child to grow - thinking of the lists as your children. overdiscipline just makes for rebellion and anger, and i've observed that happening over the last few months too. I don't know if you have noticed but this list is alive and kicking again. Just take a look at the traffic. It has been back to normal for quite some time now. Also I haven't witnessed any rebellion as of recently. I admit to end fights and off topic threads as soon as I notice them, because I have witnessed what has happened before on this list. It wasn't the strict attitude of the nanny's that was slowly killing this list, on the contrary, it was the endless fighting between its members. At the moment new subscribers aren't being scared away anymore and the old ones are sticking around, at leas one member came back because the list is pretty peace full again. its got to the point where i dare not post for fear of making some kind of tiny typo which becomes a disciplinary matter - and yes, i quite often type ram instead of RAM, because i type all in lower case letters, and i think everyone knows damn well what i'm on about. am i to be suspended for doing so? thats what i wonder, when i read this latest series of notes. The fact that the listmom hates these small linguistic mistakes does not mean that the list nanny will suspend people for typing things the wrong way. I make these mistakes myself frequently. BTW So far I have not suspended a single list member since I was installed as a list nanny, although I am prepared to do so if necessary. i was also made aware that flawed jai, a valuable contributor to this list, was kicked off because of an accidental off topic post. this is ridiculous! you guys are worse than the RIAA! Flawed Jai has not been kicked off this list by me. Could be she has left on her own account. I don't know about that. as you've now effectively killed off all the character on this list by kicking off members one by one, i'm finding less and less reason to read this increasingly pedantic tripe. i'm very tempted to unsubscribe.. now give me five reasons i should stay and none of them should be spelt with capitals. Five reasons? I guess You must figure them out yourself. A love for all things vintage Macintosh might be the most important of them. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MacIIsi data transfer
What methods are available to me for transfering data from my mac IIsi, 7.6 to a more current platform...(such as Mac OS 9.0 or .10.0) You can either use disks or a network connection. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: getting files off LC-II
Threes different solutions have been offered for this problem, but it seems to me the first one (offered by Ken) is by far the most simple one. The LCII is equipped with a so called superdrive, a floppy drive that can read and write both DOS and Mac formatted floppies. You need a certain piece of software, a control panel, to read and write DOS floppies. I suppose that piece of software has not been installed on your LCII, so you will need to install it first. The piece of software is called AccessPC or Dosmounter and can be download on this page: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/pc2mac.html Greetings, Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
System 6 Heaven update
The broken links on all pages except for the pages in the main download area have been fixed. Some minor changes were made. The repair of broken links in the main download area will follow shortly. After that I am planning some new things. Marten van de Kraats -- -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Software Site
Isn't the .sig file in breach of netiquette? Yes, it is. Marten van de Kraats Vintage Mac List Nanny Steve Conrad 810 Main Henrietta, MO 64036 816-494-5692 http://sasha91.0pi.com www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/stonekeep/600 It is no secret (nor should it come as any surprise) that humankind's most noble impulses often surface during the most trying of times, that human spirit rises to the challenge when faced with adversity, that human strength is born from human failings...Is it any wonder, then, that the SDF-1 crew became a tighter family after the fortress had been exiled than it had before? From the log of Captain (later Admiral) Henry Gloval -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[WARNING] Re: Get a life
Here is a guy (Steve) providing valuable information to the list (or at least to me), and you hack on him for his non-political, non-controversial sig? A sig he has been using for quite some time without complaint? If you have nothing useful or at least constructive to say (and this wasn't), SHUT UP! Let's keep things polite, please. If you have something to say about this subject do it offlist. Nobody is hacking anybody here. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[WARNING] Re: Get a life
This thread is now officially closed. I don't want to hear anymore about it. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 6- Missing AppleShare resources?
I hauled out one of those old LCs the other day and found it with pretty much its original System 6.0.7 installation on it. I got a few cockamamie ideas and decided to attempt networking it with my other machines, using an Asante' MacCon-i LC-10baseT card I found. First I used NSI 1.4.5 to install EtherTalk Phase 2- I figured its driver would probably work with the Asante card. I checked to make sure the Network control panel and AppleTalk files were installed, and they were. So far so good. Connected it to the network and fired her up. The Network control panel showed EtherTalk as a choice, good- so I picked it and brought up the Chooser. When I clicked on AppleShare, the names of my other two machines, one OSX and the other 8.6, came up in the list. I clicked on one and hit OK. It gave me this error message: Some AppleShare resources were not installed at system startup time. Try restarting from an AppleShare workstation disk or reinstall the workstation software. Trying to connect to the other machine resulted in the same thing. Going the Workstation disk route wasn't any help either. The LC won't run System 6.0, which is what is on the AppleShare Workstation 2.0 disk that I have. Updating it, by dragging System and Finder 6.0.7 into the system folder, so that I could then boot from the Workstation disk, did not work. And I could not use the installer on the Workstation disk to update the system folder on my hard drive. It will only update System 6.0, not 6.0.7. Using System 6.0.8 didn't help either. I did get the LC to run SingleShare, and I was able to successfully serve files to the 8.6 machine from the LC, but not vice versa. After all this I still didn't think that the problem might be that I don't have the right driver for the card. If that were the problem, I didn't think I'd be able to even see the names of the other machines in the chooser, and I know SingleShare would not have worked. Just to make double-sure, I got out a printer cable and connected the LC directly to the 8.6 machine and switched them both to using LocalTalk on the printer ports. I got the exact same missing AppleShare resources message. For obvious reasons relating to the LC's limitations, I'd rather not take this sucka to System 7.1. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? See the website in my signature for a solution to your problem. What you basically need to do is install network software 1.4.5 and Apple Workstation 3.5 on your LC. I believe the network software upgrade is the most essential. Greetings, Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: is system 6 capable of color?
is system 6 capable of displaying color like system 7 or 8? Of course. Millions of colors if you want (depending on hardware naturally). Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
