Re: Mac IIcx Clock Problems
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:53:27 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mac IIcx Clock Problems I have zapped the pram with both the key combination and by removing the battery. Its tough to get to on a CX. In any case the clock retains whatever I've entered into it as the current time, but it never moves anywhere. So I'm guessing that the clock chip itself isn't working. If you're in or near Austin, TX, I'd be happy to provide an exchange IIcx motherboard. I have a box of about 20 of them. It's probably not worth the cost to ship (and I have no way of testing them to be certain I was shipping a working one) but if you're in the area you're welcome to email me and come by. I have them because each one has an 85C30 and a 53C80 chip on it which I have a use for. Your faulty board would serve that purpose for me as well as one of these, presumably working, boards. Jeff Walther -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIcx Clock Problems
Have you tried Techtool from Micromat, the same folks who made MacEKG. Snooper is no longer sold, but parts seem to have been incorporated into the latest version of Norton Utilities, 3.2.1 came from this page http://homepage.mac.com/schrier/faq.html while Peace of Mind was just to hard to search for. Would MacCheck or tattletech be of any use? Does this faulty board still keep the date correct even thought the clock appears stuck on the one set time? Have you zapped the pram with a key combo, utility or simply removing and replacing the pram battery after some time out of the machine. Your the second person this year that I can recall having this problem with the clock. :( The versions of Techtool I've seen seem to be PowerPC only. Now there may be an old 68k version running around that I haven't seen, but that was a show stopper for me. I'll have to check the faq link you posted there, because maybe they know where to get a copy. I have zapped the pram with both the key combination and by removing the battery. Its tough to get to on a CX. In any case the clock retains whatever I've entered into it as the current time, but it never moves anywhere. So I'm guessing that the clock chip itself isn't working. David -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIcx Clock Problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The versions of Techtool I've seen seem to be PowerPC only. Now there may be an old 68k version running around that I haven't seen, but that was a show stopper for me. I'll have to check the faq link you posted there, because maybe they know where to get a copy. I've version 1.1.7 which runs on 68k machines and is freeware and can be found with lots of other useful stuff at http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/71more.html the earlier link is a chip clocking page for 030's and above and really only mentions what happened to MacEKG. I have zapped the pram with both the key combination and by removing the battery. Its tough to get to on a CX. In any case the clock retains whatever I've entered into it as the current time, but it never moves anywhere. So I'm guessing that the clock chip itself isn't working. Thats a shame, remove the time + date control panel and you wouldn't know the problem existed.(hopefully) Might be worth replacing time and date just to be sure but if your using the same hard drive between the two boards I guess it proves the control panel to be working properly. It would be good if you found a utility that identified a problem with some part of the hardware. Maybe someone has a suggestion for gettting time of another networked machine via software, this might not help you depending on your setup. Good luck -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIcx Clock Problems
Well, I wanted to let everyone know that I tried thee IIcx's twin brother out (same hard drive, memory, etc.) and it worked fine. It must have been the clock chip on that motherboard. Now I don't know what to do with the first one. The sad part is I was reading in a book called Fix Your Own Mac by Jan L. Harrington that at one time there were diagnostic programs sold that could check that chip amongst others. They're long gone, but some of the names were MacEKG, Snooper, and Peace of Mind. Anyone know where one could get a copy of one of those programs for a 68k Mac? David -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIcx Clock Problems
Just having good suspision of the clock chip would be enough to replace it for me... If you have a field strenght meter or some other way to check the crystal on the clock circuit might reveal that the crystal is the culprit also... perhaps replace both to be safe. I am sure they are cheap enough as long as you order them from a second source rather than using Mac parts... Check your friends junk box and you might get lucky! -Original Message- From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 04:40 To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: Mac IIcx Clock Problems Well, I wanted to let everyone know that I tried thee IIcx's twin brother out (same hard drive, memory, etc.) and it worked fine. It must have been the clock chip on that motherboard. Now I don't know what to do with the first one. The sad part is I was reading in a book called Fix Your Own Mac by Jan L. Harrington that at one time there were diagnostic programs sold that could check that chip amongst others. They're long gone, but some of the names were MacEKG, Snooper, and Peace of Mind. Anyone know where one could get a copy of one of those programs for a 68k Mac? David -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
